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Russell Wilson asked Jodi Allen to fire Pete Carroll and John Schneider

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,485 Founders Club
edited February 2023 in NFL Talk
... before his trade to Broncos.

OMG

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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,316 Founders Club
    Link buttfucker?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,081 Founders Club
    Before last season a lot of Hawks fans would have agreed
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,316 Founders Club

    Before last season a lot of Hawks fans would have agreed

    I read comments on twatter and there were plenty of 12s saying it’s better to keep Wilson.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Before last season a lot of Hawks fans would have agreed

    Indeed.

    I was wrong.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,081 Founders Club

    Before last season a lot of Hawks fans would have agreed

    Indeed.

    I was wrong.
    I probably would have been too. I generally take the player and the drafts were underwhelming
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,665 Standard Supporter
    RW last 5 years:
    9-7 no playoffs
    10-6 WC loss
    11-5 Divisional loss
    12-4 WC loss
    7-10 no playoffs
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,325 Founders Club
    That fucking guy.

    More dirt coming out. Amazing how quickly an image can be tarnished.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,485 Founders Club

    Wilson ain't shit without the LOB. Just another stat padder QB who benefits playing in the modern era. LOB won the Super Bowl and Wilson lost the second one that he was supposed to win. Since that point he's basically been your average Dallas Cowboys QB post-Aikman years.

    I'm no longer a Russell Wilson fan, but let's not act like the guy was Trent Dilfer or something. He won a lot of games.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    edited February 2023
    He’s garbage. He should write a book about how you become one of a franchises most beloved players of all time to no one giving a shit if they retire your jersey (most right now would probably not want it).
  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070
    I love Wilson pulling a power play by going to the owner like he is something special. Who the fuck does this guy think he is. It is still funny that his extension hasn't even started yet. Broncos go 8-9 in 2023 and miss the playoffs.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2023

    Wilson ain't shit without the LOB. Just another stat padder QB who benefits playing in the modern era. LOB won the Super Bowl and Wilson lost the second one that he was supposed to win. Since that point he's basically been your average Dallas Cowboys QB post-Aikman years.

    I'm no longer a Russell Wilson fan, but let's not act like the guy was Trent Dilfer or something. He won a lot of games.
    Yeah, but so did Tony Romo with mediocre defenses most years.

    Also, I really give him no credit for the team's best seasons. The defense carried them, along with Marshawn. Wilson's role could've been reprised by a lot of other guys on those teams.
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,751 Founders Club
    edited February 2023
    Fishpo31 said:

    Say what you want about Pete, but he's got his reads down about the culture he wants. I felt that when he was hired it was a risk because of the rah-rah Joe College stuff, but he has made it go.

    With the wild cast of characters he's had (Sherm, Earl, Lynch, Bennett, Clark, Harvin...et al), he's done a pretty good job of reigning them in, getting everything he could get out of them, and pulling the rip cord when production / behavior declined. I never expected Russ to push it over the line, but there you have it.

    Russ isn't Russ (the good version) without Pete...Pete created the monster, and dumped him before he got eaten by him...

    Exactly right on all statements... after Russ visibly slowed down as far as being able to avoid the rush and tried to become more of a pocket passer, the change in production was obvious and ominous.

    To be able to get the draft haul they did was as big a success as avoiding the negative consequences of watching Wilson decline to a shell of himself in front of Seattle fans which was the domino
    trail that was well on the way.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,485 Founders Club

    He’s garbage. He should write a book about how you become one of a franchises most beloved players of all time to no one giving a shit if they retire your jersey (most right now would probably not want it).

    Dan McGuire was garbage. Rick Mirer was garbage.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,336
    edited February 2023

    Wilson ain't shit without the LOB. Just another stat padder QB who benefits playing in the modern era. LOB won the Super Bowl and Wilson lost the second one that he was supposed to win. Since that point he's basically been your average Dallas Cowboys QB post-Aikman years.

    I'm no longer a Russell Wilson fan, but let's not act like the guy was Trent Dilfer or something. He won a lot of games.
    Right. OJ is a MUCH BETTER comparison. Thanks.
  • coronabruin
    coronabruin Member Posts: 1,491

    RW last 5 years:
    9-7 no playoffs
    10-6 WC loss
    11-5 Divisional loss
    12-4 WC loss
    7-10 no playoffs

    Plus there was that time he did this


  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,665 Standard Supporter

    Wilson ain't shit without the LOB. Just another stat padder QB who benefits playing in the modern era. LOB won the Super Bowl and Wilson lost the second one that he was supposed to win. Since that point he's basically been your average Dallas Cowboys QB post-Aikman years.

    I don't really get this take. He's not Brady or Rogers, but he was consistently a top seven or so QB from 2015 to 2020. I do remember some clunkers, such as losing to Tampon Bay 14-7 or thereabouts once, but overall he was really solid, and he didn't have a running game some years.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,316 Founders Club

    RW last 5 years:
    9-7 no playoffs
    10-6 WC loss
    11-5 Divisional loss
    12-4 WC loss
    7-10 no playoffs

    Plus there was that time he did this



  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,272
    Still a hall of famer or no?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,485 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    Still a hall of famer or no?

    no
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter
    whlinder said:

    Still a hall of famer or no?

    No and never was.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter

    Wilson ain't shit without the LOB. Just another stat padder QB who benefits playing in the modern era. LOB won the Super Bowl and Wilson lost the second one that he was supposed to win. Since that point he's basically been your average Dallas Cowboys QB post-Aikman years.

    I don't really get this take. He's not Brady or Rogers, but he was consistently a top seven or so QB from 2015 to 2020. I do remember some clunkers, such as losing to Tampon Bay 14-7 or thereabouts once, but overall he was really solid, and he didn't have a running game some years.
    It should be clear to everyone by now that the team wins because of the coach.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,485 Founders Club

    Wilson ain't shit without the LOB. Just another stat padder QB who benefits playing in the modern era. LOB won the Super Bowl and Wilson lost the second one that he was supposed to win. Since that point he's basically been your average Dallas Cowboys QB post-Aikman years.

    I don't really get this take. He's not Brady or Rogers, but he was consistently a top seven or so QB from 2015 to 2020. I do remember some clunkers, such as losing to Tampon Bay 14-7 or thereabouts once, but overall he was really solid, and he didn't have a running game some years.
    It should be clear to everyone by now that the team wins because of the coach.
    Bill Belichick and I just shared a hearty laugh over your post
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    I like how he words it. He never wanted them to get fired, but he wanted to win, so...

    His words don't exactly translate to mean that he didn't go to the owner and ask them to be fired.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,639

    I like how he words it. He never wanted them to get fired, but he wanted to win, so...

    His words don't exactly translate to mean that he didn't go to the owner and ask them to be fired.

    Spoken like a future politician...TITTT
  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    https://espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35755141/seahawks-consider-drafting-qb-geno-smith-talks-positive



    "Schneider declined to comment on whether the Seahawks are considering using the $32.416 million franchise tag on Smith, other than to say that the tag is a "tool" teams have at their disposal. The Seahawks have used the franchise tag only twice under Carroll and Schneider -- on kicker Olindo Mare (2010) and defensive end Frank Clark (2019), who was then traded.

    In that same span, they've drafted only two quarterbacks -- Wilson (2012, third round) and Alex McGough (2018, seventh round). But sources have told ESPN that the Seahawks were poised to draft Patrick Mahomes in 2017 if he fell to them, and that they called the Cleveland Browns in 2018 to gauge interest in a possible swap of Wilson for the No. 1 overall pick, which Seattle would have used on Josh Allen."