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  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam
    damn you guys are retarded
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,574 Swaye's Wigwam

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam



    Hell of a "special military operation"

    These Russia retards had "onwards to Berlin" written on their tanks at the outbreak of the war. LOL
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    So how much more money and time is required to get this big ROI payoff?

    Time? As long as it takes until Russia fucks off, hopefully for good.

    I get the monetary concerns, but this is a country that wasted trillions in Iraq and Afghanistan. As opposed to something like Iraq this is actually a good use of military funds. Again - most of the shit we are supplying them with is yesterday's news like HIMARS, Bradleys, and Abrams

    Word on the street is that Putin isn't doing very well, health wise. One way or the other he doesn't survive for much longer after this clusterfuck.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,206 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2023

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,206 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    So how much more money and time is required to get this big ROI payoff?

    Time? As long as it takes until Russia fucks off, hopefully for good.

    I get the monetary concerns, but this is a country that wasted trillions in Iraq and Afghanistan. As opposed to something like Iraq this is actually a good use of military funds. Again - most of the shit we are supplying them with is yesterday's news like HIMARS, Bradleys, and Abrams

    Word on the street is that Putin isn't doing very well, health wise. One way or the other he doesn't survive for much longer after this clusterfuck.

    US oil production would have drained him dry economically. Instead some autistic girl from Norway sets US energy and national security policy.

    But you chickenhawks need your Halliburton and Raytheon stock dividends so DEMOCRACY!
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,206 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,574 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    So how much more money and time is required to get this big ROI payoff?

    Time? As long as it takes until Russia fucks off, hopefully for good.

    I get the monetary concerns, but this is a country that wasted trillions in Iraq and Afghanistan. As opposed to something like Iraq this is actually a good use of military funds. Again - most of the shit we are supplying them with is yesterday's news like HIMARS, Bradleys, and Abrams

    Word on the street is that Putin isn't doing very well, health wise. One way or the other he doesn't survive for much longer after this clusterfuck.

    Surplus cash to I suppose.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,337 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

    PGOC won't answer the basic end game question. Stated Ukrainian goal and PGOC's goal is to expel Russia from the Ukraine including Crimea. Russia would use tactical nukes and then take its chances with a Western response. The dementia patient didn't want to take a chance with the Pakistan OBL raid. The dems went haywire over Trump taking out Soleimani. So, the end game with dems in charge is? The military-industrial complex says eternal war.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

    Russia is not going to launch nukes. Take all the screenshots you need.

    The probability of that happening is near 0.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

    PGOC won't answer the basic end game question. Stated Ukrainian goal and PGOC's goal is to expel Russia from the Ukraine including Crimea. Russia would use tactical nukes and then take its chances with a Western response. The dementia patient didn't want to take a chance with the Pakistan OBL raid. The dems went haywire over Trump taking out Soleimani. So, the end game with dems in charge is? The military-industrial complex says eternal war.
    Russia will pull back from attrition, if anything. They cannot sustain their loss of manpower and equipment. They are losing 1000 soldiers damn near every. Single. Day.

    Russia will probably hold on to some of the stuff theyve grabbed in the East of Ukraine, maybe even Crimea.

    Who knows. But you guys can't see that allowing Russia to expand like some Imperial 18th century power is not the answer
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,206 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2023

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

    Russia is not going to launch nukes. Take all the screenshots you need.

    The probability of that happening is near 0.
    "Near" zero.

    1% of 4500 warheads is 45.

    0.5% is 22

    .25% is 11

    .125% is 5

    How 'near' zero do you want to go and which 5 US cities are going to get leveled?

    Your boy Vlad Z is advocating tactical nukes into Russia. You think Vlad P is going to just retaliate in Kyiv?


  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,337 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

    Russia is not going to launch nukes. Take all the screenshots you need.

    The probability of that happening is near 0.
    So, Putin just lets the Crimea go. Don't think so. I think he gets a risk free use of tactical nukes. If the Ukraine is worth it, let the Germans pay the price. Europe doesn't think it is worth the price so phuck em.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

    Russia is not going to launch nukes. Take all the screenshots you need.

    The probability of that happening is near 0.
    So, Putin just lets the Crimea go. Don't think so. I think he gets a risk free use of tactical nukes. If the Ukraine is worth it, let the Germans pay the price. Europe doesn't think it is worth the price so phuck em.
    Europe has been supplying Ukraine with a ton of shit, and now they are about to supply Ukraine with Leopard II tanks. Not understanding your point here.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,145 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.



    Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Open your eyes man. IDGAF about 'surplus'. I DO GAF about some mad man on his deathbed (allegedly) being backed into a corner with a nuclear arsenal of 4500 nukes.

    And fuck that bullshit about 'democracy' in Ukraine. Those corrupt fucks invented shady elections. Where do you think Dominion got their practice hacking voting machines?

    I suppose you also think COVID start in a wet bat market and the vaccine will prevent transmission and save granny.



    Pressing

    If Russia nukes the world go ahead and gloat. It's not going to happen.

    Covid 100% came from a Chinese lab in Wuhan. Nice try though
    Pressing what? Statistics and probability?

    You deny that Russia has a nuclear arsenal of at least 4500 warheads?

    You are 100% confident that Putin won't launch ANY of them?

    Russia is not going to launch nukes. Take all the screenshots you need.

    The probability of that happening is near 0.
    "Near" zero.

    1% of 4500 warheads is 45.

    0.5% is 22

    .25% is 11

    .125% is 5

    How 'near' zero do you want to go and which 5 US cities are going to get leveled?

    Your boy Vlad Z is advocating tactical nukes into Russia. You think Vlad P is going to just retaliate in Kyiv?



    This isn't how statistics work. Lol.

    Nukes will either be used, or they won't.

    You guys still won't answer the question of what happens next if the US and Nato didn't supply Ukraine?

    Russia takes over Ukraine, then Moldova, then Khazakstan, then Bulgaria, then merges with Serbia, then gets bold enough to invade Western Europe?

    You have to nip this shit in the bud which is exactly what is happening. Better than NATO or the US's wildest dreams.

    There were actually retards that thought Russia would be a serious adversary to NATO and the US in a hot war. Russia can't even take over hardly any of Ukraine....
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,903 Founders Club

    damn you guys are retarded

    Nice argument shit for brains
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