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  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,441

    whlinder said:

    Canadawg said:

    Playing an away game cross country would be a pretty big disadvantage compared to most existing conferences. See the SoCal schools in 2024

    Yeah while I would prefer this over the Big 12 (largely cause the B12 added a bunch of crap after UT/OU left, should have just taken the 8 remaining B12 and 8 from the P12 to make 1 league, but UCLA/USC timing fucked us) if the ACC goes to 20 including ND, 5 P12 schools being a part of that forces 2 road trips to ACC sites per year (8 game schedule assumed, playing all 4 other west coast teams). For non-football that is big pile of travel. Oregon would have it rough since it's not like there are nonstop flights from their Methed out city to ACC sites.

    Notre Dame joining full time would have some future schedules to fix. ND's 3 consistent games are USC, Furd and Navy, though Furd/ND haven't finalized their 2025 and beyond series. 8 game ACC including Furd, plus games vs USC and Navy, gives ND two more games to schedule each year against whoever they want.
    I'm not positive but I think the ACC is at 14 schools right now without ND. Adding UW/UO/Stan/Cal/ND only brings them up to 19. Who's the fifth WC team? WSU/OSU/SDSU in a battle Royale as I'd assume the corner schools would jump to the B12 at any sniff of ACC expansion west?
    nd is no longer serious about football so i could see them joining the acc.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,804 Standard Supporter
    Big Ten (and, by extension, the ACC) are not happening if Canzano is to be believed. He wrote this the other day once it was learned that the State Legislature bill to tie UW and WSU together was DOA.

    I like that college leadership across the country policed itself on the realignment/expansion front. The conference commissioners were in gridlock over what to do with the College Football Playoff. That caused a lot of unrest. Everyone was jockeying for position.

    The Big Ten snatched USC and UCLA from the Pac-12. The university presidents and chancellors must have hated the instability. Because they took matters into their own hands and quickly approved a proposal that expanded the playoff to 12 teams in 2024.

    Everyone froze.

    Oregon and Washington must have realized they were better off staying in the Pac-12 if they wanted to make the football playoff. A line of Big Ten members pushed back against then-commissioner Kevin Warren’s wish to expand further. There was nowhere for the Ducks and Huskies to go, even if they were willing to take a reduced media-rights distribution.

    One Big Ten AD told me last July: “Oregon and Washington don’t pencil out.”

    We saw the mess the UC Regents inherited on the UCLA front. It was a no-win situation. The hearings felt futile. The Bruins were already packed and turning out the lights. They weren’t going to reverse course and tip toe back.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    LebamDawg said:
    Buy our way in, wtf? They'd take us in a heartbeat. So far we have resisted the idea because the vast majority of that conference sucks ass.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,804 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    LebamDawg said:
    Buy our way in, wtf? They'd take us in a heartbeat. So far we have resisted the idea because the vast majority of that conference sucks ass.
    PAC and Big 12 merge, East/West divisions. Much better than doing an ACC thing.
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151

    Big Ten (and, by extension, the ACC) are not happening if Canzano is to be believed. He wrote this the other day once it was learned that the State Legislature bill to tie UW and WSU together was DOA.

    I like that college leadership across the country policed itself on the realignment/expansion front. The conference commissioners were in gridlock over what to do with the College Football Playoff. That caused a lot of unrest. Everyone was jockeying for position.

    The Big Ten snatched USC and UCLA from the Pac-12. The university presidents and chancellors must have hated the instability. Because they took matters into their own hands and quickly approved a proposal that expanded the playoff to 12 teams in 2024.

    Everyone froze.

    Oregon and Washington must have realized they were better off staying in the Pac-12 if they wanted to make the football playoff. A line of Big Ten members pushed back against then-commissioner Kevin Warren’s wish to expand further. There was nowhere for the Ducks and Huskies to go, even if they were willing to take a reduced media-rights distribution.

    One Big Ten AD told me last July: “Oregon and Washington don’t pencil out.”

    We saw the mess the UC Regents inherited on the UCLA front. It was a no-win situation. The hearings felt futile. The Bruins were already packed and turning out the lights. They weren’t going to reverse course and tip toe back.

    So Washington and Oregon "didn't pencil out", but Maryland and Rutgers penciled out? WTF?

    PS Even if you go by some mindless "tv market" perspective, Washington is a more populated state than Maryland. And that's before you even consider how nobody in Maryland gives a shit about Maryland football.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,394
    Houhusky said:

    Sandra6 said:

    I really hope that we leave Stanford and Cal behind. They're the two schools responsible for the PAC demise, and nobody in San Francisco watches their teams.

    In 1990, Stanford and Cal rejected the additions of Texas and Texas A&M. In 2010-11, Stanford and Cal ended up sabotaging the the talks with Texas and Oklahoma.

    Whether we go to the Big 10 or the ACC, I want the hell out of the PAC, and I want to leave Stanford and Cal behind.

    In college I knew one of the girls who helped launch the whole husky stadium sustainability nonsense... She actively hated not just football but all sports and claimed they were an extension of white westernized patriarchal power structures or some shit. She unironically told me that UW football doing poorly was a good thing because it decreased people driving cars to a pointless game.

    Its probably only got worse... Im not sure there big difference between Cal, Stanford and UW, and if there is there wont be 10 years from now.

    I would get some schadenfreude from the destruction of the retarded Pac12 except I know that there's a lot of people working in these schools that get glee from sawing off the branch they are sitting on.
    JFC. I mean, the decrease in driving is probably not wrong, but I would love to know from someone like that what brings them joy and meaning in life. Like what’s the fucking point of being alive to her?