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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,717 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    Bob_C said:

    YellowSnow said:

    whlinder said:

    whlinder said:

    I like RAHM

    First and Right.

    Respek to Phil with that final round.
    I wanted to root for Phil. Was a long time Team Phil guy.

    But I’m consistent in my anti camel fucker stance.
    The propaganda worked if they got you to turn on a lifelong rooting interest.
    I don't think it's propaganda, nor is my take on LIV especially controversial.
    LIV can suck and guys don't have to be pariahs for taking the cash at the same time. Phil is 52 and has 6 majors. Going for a $100 million+ cash grab for him is fine. LIV can suck and guys don't have to be pariahs for taking the cash at the same time.

    What are your thoughts on Lebron?
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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    The thing about LIV is that if the players who went just said, "fuck this, I'm taking the cash because ... I like money," I wouldn't have any issues. But the whole bullshit around "growing the game" and making it anything other than a money grab is just a bunch of lies. Taking the most money you possibly can for a job is the American way. Just own up to it and admit it.

    A few of the players have been honest about it, but most have been duplicitous douche bags.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    edited April 2023
    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too
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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,717 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Bob_C said:

    YellowSnow said:

    whlinder said:

    whlinder said:

    I like RAHM

    First and Right.

    Respek to Phil with that final round.
    I wanted to root for Phil. Was a long time Team Phil guy.

    But I’m consistent in my anti camel fucker stance.
    The propaganda worked if they got you to turn on a lifelong rooting interest.
    I don't think it's propaganda, nor is my take on LIV especially controversial.
    LIV can suck and guys don't have to be pariahs for taking the cash at the same time. Phil is 52 and has 6 majors. Going for a $100 million+ cash grab for him is fine. LIV can suck and guys don't have to be pariahs for taking the cash at the same time.

    What are your thoughts on Lebron?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    @RaceBannon do you see an alternate history where Tiger is more chill on the training and breaks 20 majors rather easily? Lefty still looks soft and I think he's go another major win in him potentially.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    @RaceBannon do you see an alternate history where Tiger is more chill on the training and breaks 20 majors rather easily? Lefty still looks soft and I think he's go another major win in him potentially.
    Yes but then he wouldn't be Tiger

    So it's hard to say
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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    @RaceBannon do you see an alternate history where Tiger is more chill on the training and breaks 20 majors rather easily? Lefty still looks soft and I think he's go another major win in him potentially.
    Moobs/Lefty looked fitter than ever.
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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    BennyBeaver said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    @RaceBannon do you see an alternate history where Tiger is more chill on the training and breaks 20 majors rather easily? Lefty still looks soft and I think he's go another major win in him potentially.
    Moobs/Lefty looked fitter than ever.
    Oh, oh, oh Ozempic!
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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    If Tiger could drive a car as well as a golf ball, he probably would have Jack's record now, too.
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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,717 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    Maybe. Though would any of that existed if not for people like Brooks jumping ship. Who knows.

    He has PGA Championship status forever. So he’s got that big advantage over all the other LIV players in terms of getting into the majors. If push comes to shove he can always go qualify for US or British Open too.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    Maybe. Though would any of that existed if not for people like Brooks jumping ship. Who knows.

    He has PGA Championship status forever. So he’s got that big advantage over all the other LIV players in terms of getting into the majors. If push comes to shove he can always go qualify for US or British Open too.
    Without LIV we aren't here this fast. No question. Props to the tour for being nimble enough to keep most of it together

    Someday LIV and the Tours need to make peace. Stop trying to destroy each other.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    BennyBeaver said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    @RaceBannon do you see an alternate history where Tiger is more chill on the training and breaks 20 majors rather easily? Lefty still looks soft and I think he's go another major win in him potentially.
    Moobs/Lefty looked fitter than ever.
    He looks like he's done some pushups and cut back on the cold ones.

    Doesn't look like special ops Tiger though.
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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,717 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    Maybe. Though would any of that existed if not for people like Brooks jumping ship. Who knows.

    He has PGA Championship status forever. So he’s got that big advantage over all the other LIV players in terms of getting into the majors. If push comes to shove he can always go qualify for US or British Open too.
    Without LIV we aren't here this fast. No question. Props to the tour for being nimble enough to keep most of it together

    Someday LIV and the Tours need to make peace. Stop trying to destroy each other.
    That last part is the correct answer, would save both of them headaches and lots of money. Those sucking off the tour are simultaneously saying that LIV is really shitty as a product and their players are washed up and suck and it's such a threat that we need to do whatever is necessary to keep them down. It's PGOS level logic. LIV sucks and won't ever be good enough to take Berlin.

    The money being offered by LIV to steal players is a direct result of the pushback that PGA Tour policies of total banishment have created.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    TheHB said:

    If Tiger could drive a car as well as a golf ball, he probably would have Jack's record now, too.

    His bad knees led to his bad back which led to pain pills which led to car crashes

    Basically his career was 97 to 08

    He showed in 2019 that if he had stayed healthy he'd win into his 50s
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,310 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    Maybe. Though would any of that existed if not for people like Brooks jumping ship. Who knows.

    He has PGA Championship status forever. So he’s got that big advantage over all the other LIV players in terms of getting into the majors. If push comes to shove he can always go qualify for US or British Open too.
    Without LIV we aren't here this fast. No question. Props to the tour for being nimble enough to keep most of it together

    Someday LIV and the Tours need to make peace. Stop trying to destroy each other.
    There's a comp in here somewhere to the Indy Racing League and CART split back in the late 90's. That's what I keep thinking of as far as precedent, but golf is a much larger sport than Indy Cars, and the PGA is too big to fail, IMO.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Norman has to go. He made it personal
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  • RaceBannon
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    PGA Tour winner Will Zalatoris announced Monday that he will miss the remainder of the season after undergoing back surgery.

    "After careful consideration and seeking multiple medical opinions, I underwent a successful microdiscectomy on Saturday," Zalatoris said on Instagram. "As much as I hate not being able to play the rest of this season, I am happy that I am already seeing the benefits of the procedure. Playing and living in pain is not fun. I look forward to making a full recovery and seeing everyone in the fall. Thank you to Dr. Michael Duffy, Dr. Tom Kelton, and their respective teams for getting me fixed. And, of course, thank you to everyone for the support and the messages. I look forward to getting back to 100%."

    A microdiscectomy is a surgery that repairs a ruptured or damaged lumbar spine disc. Tiger Woods has had no fewer than four microdiscectomy procedures in the last decade.

    Zalatoris withdrew ahead of the first round of the Masters last Thursday due to a nagging back injury.
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  • YouKnowIt
    YouKnowIt Member Posts: 545
    RaceBannon said:

    PGA Tour winner Will Zalatoris announced Monday that he will miss the remainder of the season after undergoing back surgery.

    "After careful consideration and seeking multiple medical opinions, I underwent a successful microdiscectomy on Saturday," Zalatoris said on Instagram. "As much as I hate not being able to play the rest of this season, I am happy that I am already seeing the benefits of the procedure. Playing and living in pain is not fun. I look forward to making a full recovery and seeing everyone in the fall. Thank you to Dr. Michael Duffy, Dr. Tom Kelton, and their respective teams for getting me fixed. And, of course, thank you to everyone for the support and the messages. I look forward to getting back to 100%."

    A microdiscectomy is a surgery that repairs a ruptured or damaged lumbar spine disc. Tiger Woods has had no fewer than four microdiscectomy procedures in the last decade.

    Zalatoris withdrew ahead of the first round of the Masters last Thursday due to a nagging back injury.

    !0 months: Will Z joins LIV
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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,717 Founders Club
    YouKnowIt said:

    RaceBannon said:

    PGA Tour winner Will Zalatoris announced Monday that he will miss the remainder of the season after undergoing back surgery.

    "After careful consideration and seeking multiple medical opinions, I underwent a successful microdiscectomy on Saturday," Zalatoris said on Instagram. "As much as I hate not being able to play the rest of this season, I am happy that I am already seeing the benefits of the procedure. Playing and living in pain is not fun. I look forward to making a full recovery and seeing everyone in the fall. Thank you to Dr. Michael Duffy, Dr. Tom Kelton, and their respective teams for getting me fixed. And, of course, thank you to everyone for the support and the messages. I look forward to getting back to 100%."

    A microdiscectomy is a surgery that repairs a ruptured or damaged lumbar spine disc. Tiger Woods has had no fewer than four microdiscectomy procedures in the last decade.

    Zalatoris withdrew ahead of the first round of the Masters last Thursday due to a nagging back injury.

    !0 months: Will Z joins LIV
    He was talking a few weeks ago about how he turned down a bid number from them, rumors were $100m, guessing that was made in September/August of last year. He isn't getting that now. I bet he stays put.

    Sucks for him, top 5 ball striker on tour, terrible putter from short range. He'll have to actually be healthy in order to compete as he has nothing to fall back on as he builds up strength.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Pass on the anime but otherwise

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    This must be a thing. Golf is trending over big ratings for the Masters

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too


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    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    YellowSnow said:

    BennyBeaver said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bob_C said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Brooks admitted he was worried about his health. He is a straight shooter

    For guys like Lee Westwood it's pretty much a no brainer to take the cash

    America has a long love hate relationship with the Saudis. The tour is using that to their advantage

    The tour would still be playing in China if not for covid

    To me the politics are a wash. The tour is still better in my opinion

    But it would be better with Brooks too

    If we are being honest, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Brooks was that he didn’t give a shit about the week to week stops of the tour and instead brought it all out for the majors. If he’s back, then it doesn’t matter what tour he plays week to week.
    The designated events have the guys interested. Maybe Brooks would have been too

    I like the guy with 15 majors and 67 other wins

    Brooks is out of exemptions after this year. 2nd place gets him in the Masters next year
    @RaceBannon do you see an alternate history where Tiger is more chill on the training and breaks 20 majors rather easily? Lefty still looks soft and I think he's go another major win in him potentially.
    Moobs/Lefty looked fitter than ever.
    He looks like he's done some pushups and cut back on the cold ones.

    Doesn't look like special ops Tiger though.
    More coffee and swinging ... allegedly
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,318 Founders Club
    Had a good chat on Friday with my lesbo, ex D 1 golfer neighbor about PGA vs Liv. I conceded the point that maybe some positives will result from another format challenging PGA monopoly. But I remained unyielding in my loathing of @PurpleBaze paying the bills.

    @Tequilla my neighbor shot 78 at Tetherow on a bad day the round I played with her.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,683 Swaye's Wigwam
    YellowSnow said:

    Had a good chat on Friday with my lesbo, ex D 1 golfer neighbor about PGA vs Liv. I conceded the point that maybe some positives will result from another format challenging PGA monopoly. But I remained unyielding in my loathing of @PurpleBaze paying the bills.

    @Tequilla my neighbor shot 78 at Tetherow on a bad day the round I played with her.

    I hate how they're trying to appeal to the new age golfers .. the douche bags who blare music from their carts and generally make noise and bring the NASCAR element to public golf courses.

    I said NASCAR but there's a whole other crowd out there now too...kind of a hipster/woke douchebag element that's opposite yet effectively identical to the NASCAR crowd when it comes to their effect on the golf course atmosphere. They also blare their music and say things like "how about if you do you and I do me?" A little hipster fag said that to my vary large, very aggressive brother last summer on our home course and it was two of his steps away from getting really ugly. He would have pummeled all three of these dudes without breaking a sweat, but fortunately the two buddies of the guy who said that intervened and lowered the tension by agreeing to stop.

    Stop what, you ask? They were sitting 50' away from the first tee, on the edge of the parking lot, playing guitars and singing. Loudly. Weird as fuck, but I bet they don't do it again.

    Anyways, I partially blame the LIV tour for some of this even though it started before them. They're perpetuating and even encouraging it.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,310 Standard Supporter
    I kinda like having some music playing at the tee box. Beats everyone talking in their fake Jim Nantz whisper voices.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,683 Swaye's Wigwam
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    I kinda like having some music playing at the tee box. Beats everyone talking in their fake Jim Nantz whisper voices.

    My stance is that everyone should have a choice on the music. Either keep it quiet enough that other groups can't hear it, or wear headphones. People who don't like it shouldn't have to hear it when there are other ways. Most of these people either think they're being cool by sharing their tunes with everyone else (the hipsters) or are doing it defiantly because they know it's irritating to most of the other golfers out there (NASCAR crowd).
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