Race Bannon's OFFICIAL Golf Talk 2023-2024 Thread
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The guy who made the deal had his office on the 104th floor of the south tower. He was trying to qualify for the mid amateur or he'd be dead
https://golfchannel.com/news/motivated-desire-unite-jimmy-dunne-explains-how-why-pga-tour-and-saudis-aligned
Dunne, who is also the president of Seminole Golf Club, was also asked about his previous comments regarding LIV Golf, the PIF and Saudi Arabia. Piper Sandler (formerly known as Sandler O’Neill & Partners) was located on the 104th floor of the south tower of the World Trade Center and lost 66 employees during the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
“Every day the first thing I think about is that, several times during the day, I think about it and the last thing I think about at night is that,” Dunne said. “That has not changed since that day and I’m not alone in that. I would guarantee you that every one of those family members has that same condition. It’s just a reality of how unbelievably sad and awful that day was.
“I am quite certain and have had conversations with a lot of knowledgeable people that the people that I’m dealing with [from the PIF] had nothing to do with [the Sept. 11 attacks]. And if someone can find someone that unequivocally was involved with it, I’ll kill him myself. We don’t have to wait around.”
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Seminole members are pretty in touch with the common man and down to earth.
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Those are stock yardages and typically carry yardages ... most greens I'm a 1 bounce and spin guy that typically spins back close to my ball markwhlinder said:
What are you measuring yardage to? Landing or total including roll?Tequilla said:Where I find it amusing is that most people can't hit their yardages consistently ... for some clubs that makes sense but I'd say for 6 irons through at least PW you should be relatively consistent with your yardages on non mishits
With my PW for example I have 3 shots that I play:
Full PW is about 125
1/2 PW is about 100
3/4 PW is about 115
I don't necessarily try to hit with different lofts outside of whatever the contact is and the nature of the swing (1/2 swing typically is lower and goes from there)
Where I get in the most trouble with the 1/2 and 3/4 swings is I find it easier to lose balance in those swings and get a little chunky at times ... much more likely to chunk than to hit thin
With a 56 and 60 ... it's much more hit or miss for me in terms of contact on a full swing and I generally try to avoid those swings unless there is a compelling reason (typically I have to be swinging well to feel confident with those clubs)
If I'm in the fairway 50 yards with an open green ... much more likely to hit an 8 or 9 pitch and run than I am to try to loft something up in the air
Cause distance can vary significantly by lie and temperature. In many cases I can get two extra clubs worth of distance with a flyer rough lie, or if the ground is hard I will get 15 extra yards of roll so need to club down.
I try to factor all that in. I’ve airmailed fewer greens by really checking the rough lie.
For very firm greens I typically will adjust down my yardages by 5-10 yards allowing for additional roll out
Lies in the rough obviously can be a huge factor ... I wouldn't say I typically hit a ton of big big fliers. The two things that for me are bigger challenges in the rough are grabbing the club face and getting a pull out of it and impact of the wind. The biggest fliers I hit are generally in situations where I also have a lot of down wind behind me. You do make a good point though about losing spin and that I'll factor in more by evaluating where my miss needs to be (short if to back pins, long if to front pins assuming that short is no good). -
Downwind wedges are a guessing game. Could sail and go forever, but my experience is that on a normal swing they more often get knocked out of the air before they apex with enough wind and don't carry what you were expecting. So play a flighted one if you have margin for error on the carry to prevent the wind knocking it down and avoid guessing wrong.Tequilla said:
Those are stock yardages and typically carry yardages ... most greens I'm a 1 bounce and spin guy that typically spins back close to my ball markwhlinder said:
What are you measuring yardage to? Landing or total including roll?Tequilla said:Where I find it amusing is that most people can't hit their yardages consistently ... for some clubs that makes sense but I'd say for 6 irons through at least PW you should be relatively consistent with your yardages on non mishits
With my PW for example I have 3 shots that I play:
Full PW is about 125
1/2 PW is about 100
3/4 PW is about 115
I don't necessarily try to hit with different lofts outside of whatever the contact is and the nature of the swing (1/2 swing typically is lower and goes from there)
Where I get in the most trouble with the 1/2 and 3/4 swings is I find it easier to lose balance in those swings and get a little chunky at times ... much more likely to chunk than to hit thin
With a 56 and 60 ... it's much more hit or miss for me in terms of contact on a full swing and I generally try to avoid those swings unless there is a compelling reason (typically I have to be swinging well to feel confident with those clubs)
If I'm in the fairway 50 yards with an open green ... much more likely to hit an 8 or 9 pitch and run than I am to try to loft something up in the air
Cause distance can vary significantly by lie and temperature. In many cases I can get two extra clubs worth of distance with a flyer rough lie, or if the ground is hard I will get 15 extra yards of roll so need to club down.
I try to factor all that in. I’ve airmailed fewer greens by really checking the rough lie.
For very firm greens I typically will adjust down my yardages by 5-10 yards allowing for additional roll out
Lies in the rough obviously can be a huge factor ... I wouldn't say I typically hit a ton of big big fliers. The two things that for me are bigger challenges in the rough are grabbing the club face and getting a pull out of it and impact of the wind. The biggest fliers I hit are generally in situations where I also have a lot of down wind behind me. You do make a good point though about losing spin and that I'll factor in more by evaluating where my miss needs to be (short if to back pins, long if to front pins assuming that short is no good). -
I tend to have a fairly high ball flight so if I can get the ball launched with the wind I’ll gain that yardageBob_C said:
Downwind wedges are a guessing game. Could sail and go forever, but my experience is that on a normal swing they more often get knocked out of the air before they apex with enough wind and don't carry what you were expecting. So play a flighted one if you have margin for error on the carry to prevent the wind knocking it down and avoid guessing wrong.Tequilla said:
Those are stock yardages and typically carry yardages ... most greens I'm a 1 bounce and spin guy that typically spins back close to my ball markwhlinder said:
What are you measuring yardage to? Landing or total including roll?Tequilla said:Where I find it amusing is that most people can't hit their yardages consistently ... for some clubs that makes sense but I'd say for 6 irons through at least PW you should be relatively consistent with your yardages on non mishits
With my PW for example I have 3 shots that I play:
Full PW is about 125
1/2 PW is about 100
3/4 PW is about 115
I don't necessarily try to hit with different lofts outside of whatever the contact is and the nature of the swing (1/2 swing typically is lower and goes from there)
Where I get in the most trouble with the 1/2 and 3/4 swings is I find it easier to lose balance in those swings and get a little chunky at times ... much more likely to chunk than to hit thin
With a 56 and 60 ... it's much more hit or miss for me in terms of contact on a full swing and I generally try to avoid those swings unless there is a compelling reason (typically I have to be swinging well to feel confident with those clubs)
If I'm in the fairway 50 yards with an open green ... much more likely to hit an 8 or 9 pitch and run than I am to try to loft something up in the air
Cause distance can vary significantly by lie and temperature. In many cases I can get two extra clubs worth of distance with a flyer rough lie, or if the ground is hard I will get 15 extra yards of roll so need to club down.
I try to factor all that in. I’ve airmailed fewer greens by really checking the rough lie.
For very firm greens I typically will adjust down my yardages by 5-10 yards allowing for additional roll out
Lies in the rough obviously can be a huge factor ... I wouldn't say I typically hit a ton of big big fliers. The two things that for me are bigger challenges in the rough are grabbing the club face and getting a pull out of it and impact of the wind. The biggest fliers I hit are generally in situations where I also have a lot of down wind behind me. You do make a good point though about losing spin and that I'll factor in more by evaluating where my miss needs to be (short if to back pins, long if to front pins assuming that short is no good).
The one that I feel most people don’t play right is the into the wind shot that plays downhill … most think the downhill and wind cancel but they don’t. In fact because of the downhill the ball stays in the air longer and thus gets hit harder by the wind … have to add an extra club there -
WOOF. Takes a DAWG to win one for the Canucks. 69 years
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Ok tough finding your way around this place outside the football board. Anyways, you're welcome.
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I believe you should be thanking our DAWGS for developing the Canadian national champ
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This could be the UW hockey team but they playin
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Pretty sure this is the same account that had Phil and Rory together at the Masters. Expert level trolling again, deserves an invite.
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Rory is actually playing with Brooksie
After two rounds I like Brooks by 5 to 10 shots
#kissofdeath
My pick is Dustin Johnson
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Speith
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I like #myBrooks.
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I didn't think we'd get conspiracy theories on golf talk but here we are
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OBK would say everything is related.
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The real Paige is at Gitmo.
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Guys that I'd keep on the radar this week ...
Max Homa - he gets HUGE vibes playing in California and is effectively playing at home this week ... has college experience here with a LOW number posted
Justin Rose - his results from the Players forward ... T6, T36, T16, T25, T9, T12, 8 ... that's some really good form and he's got the kind of game that plays well with US Opens
Jordan Spieth - perhaps a tad off the radar given his wrist injury earlier this year and when he blows up it hits everywhere but I doubt many would believe he has 6 top 5's already this calendar year ... the magic he has in the short game is one of those things that will be needed this week with how firm/fast LACC will play ... catch him on a week where the putter gets hot and good luck catching him -
Speith and Rose are solid bets.
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If this US Open wasn't in California I'd be 100% of the same opinionBob_C said:Speith and Rose are solid bets.
Homa needs to actually deliver something in a major before he’s more than a long shot in my opinion.
Homa's resume in California is very solid ... given his number it's definitely on the table -
Rahm and Morikowa do well in California
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A couple early notables
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The pride of Murieta at 5 under
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-6 now. Might be his time.
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If he can bring it home at 5 or 6 under that's a huge first round in a US OpenBob_C said:-6 now. Might be his time.
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Holy fuckal pup called a 62 for Ricky
Usually one great round wins a US Open but today's game is different
Good for Ricky