The PAC needs to stick together
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I respect the hell out of the Throbbers indiscriminate nature, but that's a no from me.PurpleThrobber said:whatshouldicareabout said:
The best hope for the Pac-12 is if Amazon wants all the equipment/infrastructure from the Pac-12 networkGreenRiverGatorz said:
You've posted this Amazon take before, and it still doesn't make sense. Amazon isn't going to be a magic bullet that saves us from the TV money disparity. If Amazon does in fact open up the checkbook for the P12 media rights (doubtful, they'll probably just buy a small portion), then it just means they'll pay 2-4x that to get the same B1G/SEC rights when the the next negotiations open. Amazon is not a unique differentiator, and differentiation is why our conference is #doomed.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Exactly. Im hoping that Amazon streaming saves the conference by getting us within ballpark distanceCanadawg said:I stand with PGOS but I'm also not adverse to reevaluating in 2-3 years. People always swing quickly in opinions I would just like to see what Klarigvishniovkoff can put together and how the NIL thing gets sorted out in the next year or two.
If it's not cutting it then they will have just as good a shot in the B10 in a few years. In the meantime not every westcoast kid will want to leave to play in Wisconsin or Indiana so there's no need to panic.
Joining the b1g sucks
Including hottie Ashley Adamson. -
Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now -
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now -
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now -
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now -
Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now -
Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easyAtomicDawg said:
Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now
Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part
Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook -
This conference champion always loses to a mediocre sec team. Utah was up for that game too. It’s not like they weren’t prepared or it snuck up on them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easyAtomicDawg said:
Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now
Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part
Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook
2018 uw vs auburn
2019 Oregon vs auburn
2022 Utah vs Florida.
The pac 12 top tier is soft. Over a decade ago usc and Oregon blew those types of teams out at home and on the road.
Usc vs Arkansas and auburn and Ohio st for good measure.
Oregon dominated Tennessee with chip.
Not the case lately. -
notice that all of those games were played in the south, and in all of them the better team (the pac 12 team) choked at the very endAtomicDawg said:
This conference champion always loses to a mediocre sec team. Utah was up for that game too. It’s not like they weren’t prepared or it snuck up on them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easyAtomicDawg said:
Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now
Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part
Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook
2018 uw vs auburn
2019 Oregon vs auburn
2022 Utah vs Florida.
The pac 12 top tier is soft. Over a decade ago usc and Oregon blew those types of teams out at home and on the road.
Usc vs Arkansas and auburn and Ohio st for good measure.
Oregon dominated Tennessee with chip.
Not the case lately.
Florida went to Vegas and got fucking SMASHED. By Oregon State and Jonathan Smith
To its credit, the SEC is going west more often these days. Dont we have a home and home with Tenn? -
The TV markets could make cfb an amazing product and force power 5 non conference only, but they'd rather bleed out the Pac 12 and suffer having Bama play the Citadel.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
notice that all of those games were played in the south, and in all of them the better team (the pac 12 team) choked at the very endAtomicDawg said:
This conference champion always loses to a mediocre sec team. Utah was up for that game too. It’s not like they weren’t prepared or it snuck up on them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easyAtomicDawg said:
Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now
Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part
Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook
2018 uw vs auburn
2019 Oregon vs auburn
2022 Utah vs Florida.
The pac 12 top tier is soft. Over a decade ago usc and Oregon blew those types of teams out at home and on the road.
Usc vs Arkansas and auburn and Ohio st for good measure.
Oregon dominated Tennessee with chip.
Not the case lately.
Florida went to Vegas and got fucking SMASHED. By Oregon State and Jonathan Smith
To its credit, the SEC is going west more often these days. Dont we have a home and home with Tenn? -
Selling the Pac-12 network to Amazon is the best move the conference can makePostGameOrangeSlices said: -
How many "Prime" games is CBS going to give a shit about other than Washington/Oregon? Some November game where two top 2/3 teams happen to be playing each other?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
As always, Oregon and Washington needs to demand a higher % of revenue. -
Was there a point in there? Now that you said the pac 12 champs choke all those times that totally changed everything.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
notice that all of those games were played in the south, and in all of them the better team (the pac 12 team) choked at the very endAtomicDawg said:
This conference champion always loses to a mediocre sec team. Utah was up for that game too. It’s not like they weren’t prepared or it snuck up on them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easyAtomicDawg said:
Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now
Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part
Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook
2018 uw vs auburn
2019 Oregon vs auburn
2022 Utah vs Florida.
The pac 12 top tier is soft. Over a decade ago usc and Oregon blew those types of teams out at home and on the road.
Usc vs Arkansas and auburn and Ohio st for good measure.
Oregon dominated Tennessee with chip.
Not the case lately.
Florida went to Vegas and got fucking SMASHED. By Oregon State and Jonathan Smith
To its credit, the SEC is going west more often these days. Dont we have a home and home with Tenn?
The conference has not always been this bad. We know what good teams look like. Has not been one out here for over a decade. -
Fuck offAtomicDawg said:
Was there a point in there? Now that you said the pac 12 champs choke all those times that totally changed everything.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
notice that all of those games were played in the south, and in all of them the better team (the pac 12 team) choked at the very endAtomicDawg said:
This conference champion always loses to a mediocre sec team. Utah was up for that game too. It’s not like they weren’t prepared or it snuck up on them.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easyAtomicDawg said:
Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are making Florida look like an FCS teamRaceBannon said:
No they don'tPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...RaceBannon said:Fuck the Pac and the coogs
As usual
Leave our mountain west cousins now
Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part
Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook
2018 uw vs auburn
2019 Oregon vs auburn
2022 Utah vs Florida.
The pac 12 top tier is soft. Over a decade ago usc and Oregon blew those types of teams out at home and on the road.
Usc vs Arkansas and auburn and Ohio st for good measure.
Oregon dominated Tennessee with chip.
Not the case lately.
Florida went to Vegas and got fucking SMASHED. By Oregon State and Jonathan Smith
To its credit, the SEC is going west more often these days. Dont we have a home and home with Tenn?
The conference has not always been this bad. We know what good teams look like. Has not been one out here for over a decade.
The point is crystal clear.
The Pac 12 needs to schedule home and homes, games in Vegas, or kill itself
No more "neutral site" games in Atlanta.
I don't know if you know this, and it seems like you dont, but it is hard to win on the road in big OOC matchups. -
When USC and UCLA said they were LEAVE!ing for the Big 10, I was pissed Oregon and Washington didn’t get taken along, and was convinced it was the death knell of the Pac 12 (which has been on life support for awhile).
Now I’m more in LIPO mode. An Amazon deal would help (but CHRIST, anything is better than what the conference has now, so super low fucking bar), but with the upcoming college playoff expansion I doubt this would delay the inevitable: all conferences will continue to get reshuffled. -
I waffle on this. Getting enough money to stay competitive with the B12 and the ACC is great I guess but if the P12 is cutting out ESPN to do it that, it might not be such a great idea. Like selling the rights to game times to ESPN 12years ago and them showing the majority of P12 games after bedtime on the east coast, selling to Amazon and losing the sliver of interest the narrative makers at ESPN have in P12 football seems risky. I'm afraid that ESPN who currently owns over half P12 rights and cares little to none about P12 football will essentially turn their backs on the conference if they are cut out. May as well be the Big Sky. ESPN runs the CFP. Outside of the Oregon Duck mascot and Deion Sanders they will have no reason to talk P12 football. Ever. They own the ACC, they own the SEC, they own the B12 and the Big 10 is too big to ignore. Where does that leave the Pac? 40 million a year will feel pretty cold when they will essentially be on the dark side of the moon trying to survive. Give ESPN one after dark game a week. Stay on the network so they can't forget about you.Doog_de_Jour said:When USC and UCLA said they were LEAVE!ing for the Big 10, I was pissed Oregon and Washington didn’t get taken along, and was convinced it was the death knell of the Pac 12 (which has been on life support for awhile).
Now I’m more in LIPO mode. An Amazon deal would help (but CHRIST, anything is better than what the conference has now, so super low fucking bar), but with the upcoming college playoff expansion I doubt this would delay the inevitable: all conferences will continue to get reshuffled. -
Finebaum just said he thinks UO and UW are the next to leave for the B1G. Says it hasn't officially happened yet because of scheduling (can't take 4-5 schools at a time).
This guy has never given a shit about anything besides the SEC, seems more credible than Neuheisel even.
And there's still no Pac media deal. -
UW NIL > tOSU NIL. It’s been reported so it just be true.dnc said:Yes staying in the Pac gives us? a better chance of getting clown stomped in a 12 game playoff.
I'd rather have a chance of actually winning the playoff.
We?ll never compete with the big boys on the field if we can't compete with them financially, especially not in the NIL/transfer portal college free agency world we now live in. -
That way when they do broadcast your game they can put cupcakes on your field and talk shit TO YOUR FACE!theknowledge said:
I waffle on this. Getting enough money to stay competitive with the B12 and the ACC is great I guess but if the P12 is cutting out ESPN to do it that, it might not be such a great idea. Like selling the rights to game times to ESPN 12years ago and them showing the majority of P12 games after bedtime on the east coast, selling to Amazon and losing the sliver of interest the narrative makers at ESPN have in P12 football seems risky. I'm afraid that ESPN who currently owns over half P12 rights and cares little to none about P12 football will essentially turn their backs on the conference if they are cut out. May as well be the Big Sky. ESPN runs the CFP. Outside of the Oregon Duck mascot and Deion Sanders they will have no reason to talk P12 football. Ever. They own the ACC, they own the SEC, they own the B12 and the Big 10 is too big to ignore. Where does that leave the Pac? 40 million a year will feel pretty cold when they will essentially be on the dark side of the moon trying to survive. Give ESPN one after dark game a week. Stay on the network so they can't forget about you.Doog_de_Jour said:When USC and UCLA said they were LEAVE!ing for the Big 10, I was pissed Oregon and Washington didn’t get taken along, and was convinced it was the death knell of the Pac 12 (which has been on life support for awhile).
Now I’m more in LIPO mode. An Amazon deal would help (but CHRIST, anything is better than what the conference has now, so super low fucking bar), but with the upcoming college playoff expansion I doubt this would delay the inevitable: all conferences will continue to get reshuffled. -
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
OK!AOG said:It looks like PGOS gets more down-votes and fuck-offs than me now. This is a shame, since I prize my position as most disliked given what of pack of fucking assholes and idiots hang around on this website.
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ESPN sucks. They have the ability to be awesome but they sure aren't giving half an effort to the PAC recently or in the future. Amazon stock down bad they need new revenue stream...
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Finebaum is a southern Bleenorhaie said:Finebaum just said he thinks UO and UW are the next to leave for the B1G. Says it hasn't officially happened yet because of scheduling (can't take 4-5 schools at a time).
This guy has never given a shit about anything besides the SEC, seems more credible than Neuheisel even.
And there's still no Pac media deal. -
UW apparently just bought a solid Big 12 player at a position of need.dnc said:Yes staying in the Pac gives us? a better chance of getting clown stomped in a 12 game playoff.
I'd rather have a chance of actually winning the playoff.
We?ll never compete with the big boys on the field if we can't compete with them financially, especially not in the NIL/transfer portal college free agency world we now live in.
We did it previously with Bookie and JaLynn Polk.
The offense is natty caliber. Now time to improve the defense.
UW is fine with or without a B1G Ten coast to coast hellscape of a conference. -
Agreed 100%Canadawg said:ESPN sucks. They have the ability to be awesome but they sure aren't giving half an effort to the PAC recently or in the future. Amazon stock down bad they need new revenue stream...
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@Tequilla please explain how ignorant my take was.Tequilla said:
Many here are very ignorant about TCUDerekJohnson said:
I'm rooting for them, but TCU is the newest incarnation of 2007 HawaiiTheHB said:If TCU is our role model, I am out.
This may be the most ignorant of takes
2008 Sugar Bowl
Georgia 41
Hawaii 10
2023 Natty
Georgia 65
TCU 7 -
He's a froogtard.DerekJohnson said:
@Tequilla please explain how ignorant my take was.Tequilla said:
Many here are very ignorant about TCUDerekJohnson said:
I'm rooting for them, but TCU is the newest incarnation of 2007 HawaiiTheHB said:If TCU is our role model, I am out.
This may be the most ignorant of takes
2008 Sugar Bowl
Georgia 41
Hawaii 10
2023 Natty
Georgia 65
TCU 7
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.RaceBannon said:
2021 Cincinnati works tooDerekJohnson said:
I'm rooting for them, but TCU is the newest incarnation of 2007 HawaiiTheHB said:If TCU is our role model, I am out.
Stalin was correct. TCU did not belong in this game tonight and had absolutely zero chance of winning the championship.DerekJohnson said:
@Tequilla please explain how ignorant my take was.Tequilla said:
Many here are very ignorant about TCUDerekJohnson said:
I'm rooting for them, but TCU is the newest incarnation of 2007 HawaiiTheHB said:If TCU is our role model, I am out.
This may be the most ignorant of takes
2008 Sugar Bowl
Georgia 41
Hawaii 10
2023 Natty
Georgia 65
TCU 7
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Who exactly did belong though?DerekJohnson said:
@Tequilla please explain how ignorant my take was.Tequilla said:
Many here are very ignorant about TCUDerekJohnson said:
I'm rooting for them, but TCU is the newest incarnation of 2007 HawaiiTheHB said:If TCU is our role model, I am out.
This may be the most ignorant of takes
2008 Sugar Bowl
Georgia 41
Hawaii 10
2023 Natty
Georgia 65
TCU 7
Shame on you college football for letting Sonny Dykes go 13-1. They deserved to be there. They also deserved to get humiliated. -
Ohio StateAtomicDawg said:
Who exactly did belong though?DerekJohnson said:
@Tequilla please explain how ignorant my take was.Tequilla said:
Many here are very ignorant about TCUDerekJohnson said:
I'm rooting for them, but TCU is the newest incarnation of 2007 HawaiiTheHB said:If TCU is our role model, I am out.
This may be the most ignorant of takes
2008 Sugar Bowl
Georgia 41
Hawaii 10
2023 Natty
Georgia 65
TCU 7
Shame on you college football for letting Sonny Dykes go 13-1. They deserved to be there. They also deserved to get humiliated.
We don't need 12 teams. We don't need 4 teams
