I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I mean how often do you beat the team that finishes the season ranked #2? That win is likely to hold up for a very long tim.
Completely. I mean they didn’t lose again for 30+ games until the tOSU Clarett/Tressel fiesta bowel.
I would suggest that no football team has ever played in Husky stadium with as much talent on the roster as 2000 Miami. And that includes when the Seahawks played there.
(No idea how to do the research to back that up so I’ll go with it)
Not really going to argue the point but some legendary USC teams have been to Husky Stadium
John McKay teams loaded with hall of fame guys
Either way
Since you were there, you are right. I had to go look it up.
The U 2000 team still only has 1 HOFer: Ed Reed. Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are the other two who seem likely to make the hall, but with the inflation of WR stats who knows when or if that will happen. Vince Wilfork was a freshman and he is the other who might make it. I mean someone from those Patriots teams besides Brady/Belichik has to. I don't think Jonathan Vilma did enough.
1957 and 1959 hosting USC, Trooj has Willie Wood and Ron Mix.
1979 hosting USC should have had Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews on the team. That's the only year the 4 of them were on the same roster (going off their wikipedia career info). 1981 would have had Allen and Matthews, 1977 Munoz and Lott.
Don’t forget when you go to stump @whlinder, you also have to stump his adderal.
About at the same place where the Santana Moss grease spot was. #Krambrink
I thought Krambrink had a shot to be someone after the Moss hit. You know, players make plays. Unfortunately he never made a play again. Hell of a way to be remembered though.
Nah that defense was okay. Just look filthy because of the jerseys.
Agree that overall it was above average.
Pharms and Akbar wanted to hit people tho
Secondary was pretty good. Lowe akbar williams vonture and our own @DerekJohnson. They didn’t play particularly well after williams was injured but they were solid. Their interior d line was weak if I remember.
Many people here have really forgotten how fucking good Anthony Vontoure was. Hard kid to manage, but when you could get him on the field, he was balls. Great combo of physicality and cover ability at corner.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I mean how often do you beat the team that finishes the season ranked #2? That win is likely to hold up for a very long tim.
Completely. I mean they didn’t lose again for 30+ games until the tOSU Clarett/Tressel fiesta bowel.
I would suggest that no football team has ever played in Husky stadium with as much talent on the roster as 2000 Miami. And that includes when the Seahawks played there.
(No idea how to do the research to back that up so I’ll go with it)
Not really going to argue the point but some legendary USC teams have been to Husky Stadium
John McKay teams loaded with hall of fame guys
Either way
Since you were there, you are right. I had to go look it up.
The U 2000 team still only has 1 HOFer: Ed Reed. Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are the other two who seem likely to make the hall, but with the inflation of WR stats who knows when or if that will happen. Vince Wilfork was a freshman and he is the other who might make it. I mean someone from those Patriots teams besides Brady/Belichik has to. I don't think Jonathan Vilma did enough.
1957 and 1959 hosting USC, Trooj has Willie Wood and Ron Mix.
1979 hosting USC should have had Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews on the team. That's the only year the 4 of them were on the same roster (going off their wikipedia career info). 1981 would have had Allen and Matthews, 1977 Munoz and Lott.
I'd just look at the NFL careers. HOF requires some luck where longevity is concerned. But even with that, you have likely, and potentially three or four HOFmers in some combination of Johnson, Wayne and Wilfork going with Reed. Johnson and Wayne were both tippy top receivers in the NFL for a long time. Johnson played on shitty teams, and Wayne racked up numbers sharing the ball with Harrison and Edge. Wayne was a finalist last year and will eventually get in I think. In addition to his raw historically elite numbers, I think what will get him over the hump was how good he was in the post-season. I assume voters care about that. You have some bad luck with Sean Taylor, who didn't start until the 2001 season, who didn't get a chance to build what many expected to be a HOF career. A rare dude. Again, think Kenny Easley, who also should be in the HOF. Too much Advil bro.
Beyond HOF status, you have Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jeremy Shockey, Winslow Jr., Vilma ... all top players in the NFL. Some careers were shortened but each of them was an impact player at the next level. Of the offensive linemen, McKinnie, Winston, Romberg and Vernon Carey all started on O lines in the league in their careers. McKinnie was somewhat of a disappointment but held a starting spot with Minnesota and then Baltimore for years. Forgetting about Dan Morgan, who was a fucking beast in the NFL, but his career was cut a bit short because of concussions. Gore doesn't show up on the roster until the next year.
The 79 USC team - which has to be brought up on a Husky board of course - is a good comparison. Hard to say absolutely one over the other. Like any team, they both also had a lot of other very good players who were destined to be bigger stars at the college level than they would in the NFL. But in all likelihood there were at least 2 Hofamers, likely 3 and maybe 4, and a bunch of other players who played at that level for at least a time during their careers ... gives you something to talk about.
Vilma - that year they made him sit out because of the bounty scandal hurt his career. He was a fucking animal at both levels. The hits in the Nebraska game are both meme-worthy.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
Either 2016 Stanford or 2022 Oregon St
Both were 10 win teams
Trick question, same year beating 2000 11-1 Beavlet who probably woulda won the natty if we didn't ruin it.
Excluding 2000?
I'm going to say Michigan State 2022 just so Damone suffers a stroke when he reads this over tears and whisky as he lurks logged out.
I know you're being sarcastic but I don't abide by fully diminishing ranked wins just because they end up looking worse later in the season.
The obvious reason is that if said ranked team doesn't lose then they would have another win and have a better record. The second less supported reason is that athletes of all levels are walking, running mental midgets that can and do get swayed in confidence by things like an early ass kicking by a big out of conference team.
Well you should abide. Early rankings are subjective bullshit based on a few fat fuck writers who couldn't hack it at actual publications and had to settle for sports. MSU proved themselves to be a bottom rung B10 team. Them being top 15 for the first couple of weeks was completely meaningless.
MSU might not have been an ideal example but I stand by my comment. Teams don't play at a specific level consistently all year.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
Either 2016 Stanford or 2022 Oregon St
Both were 10 win teams
Trick question, same year beating 2000 11-1 Beavlet who probably woulda won the natty if we didn't ruin it.
Excluding 2000?
I'm going to say Michigan State 2022 just so Damone suffers a stroke when he reads this over tears and whisky as he lurks logged out.
I know you're being sarcastic but I don't abide by fully diminishing ranked wins just because they end up looking worse later in the season.
The obvious reason is that if said ranked team doesn't lose then they would have another win and have a better record. The second less supported reason is that athletes of all levels are walking, running mental midgets that can and do get swayed in confidence by things like an early ass kicking by a big out of conference team.
Well you should abide. Early rankings are subjective bullshit based on a few fat fuck writers who couldn't hack it at actual publications and had to settle for sports. MSU proved themselves to be a bottom rung B10 team. Them being top 15 for the first couple of weeks was completely meaningless.
MSU might not have been an ideal example but I stand by my comment. Teams don't play at a specific level consistently all year.
And some just are overrated. Early season rankings are stupid.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I mean how often do you beat the team that finishes the season ranked #2? That win is likely to hold up for a very long tim.
Completely. I mean they didn’t lose again for 30+ games until the tOSU Clarett/Tressel fiesta bowel.
I would suggest that no football team has ever played in Husky stadium with as much talent on the roster as 2000 Miami. And that includes when the Seahawks played there.
(No idea how to do the research to back that up so I’ll go with it)
Not really going to argue the point but some legendary USC teams have been to Husky Stadium
John McKay teams loaded with hall of fame guys
Either way
Since you were there, you are right. I had to go look it up.
The U 2000 team still only has 1 HOFer: Ed Reed. Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are the other two who seem likely to make the hall, but with the inflation of WR stats who knows when or if that will happen. Vince Wilfork was a freshman and he is the other who might make it. I mean someone from those Patriots teams besides Brady/Belichik has to. I don't think Jonathan Vilma did enough.
1957 and 1959 hosting USC, Trooj has Willie Wood and Ron Mix.
1979 hosting USC should have had Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews on the team. That's the only year the 4 of them were on the same roster (going off their wikipedia career info). 1981 would have had Allen and Matthews, 1977 Munoz and Lott.
I'd just look at the NFL careers. HOF requires some luck where longevity is concerned. But even with that, you have likely, and potentially three or four HOFmers in some combination of Johnson, Wayne and Wilfork going with Reed. Johnson and Wayne were both tippy top receivers in the NFL for a long time. Johnson played on shitty teams, and Wayne racked up numbers sharing the ball with Harrison and Edge. Wayne was a finalist last year and will eventually get in I think. In addition to his raw historically elite numbers, I think what will get him over the hump was how good he was in the post-season. I assume voters care about that. You have some bad luck with Sean Taylor, who didn't start until the 2001 season, who didn't get a chance to build what many expected to be a HOF career. A rare dude. Again, think Kenny Easley, who also should be in the HOF. Too much Advil bro.
Beyond HOF status, you have Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jeremy Shockey, Winslow Jr., Vilma ... all top players in the NFL. Some careers were shortened but each of them was an impact player at the next level. Of the offensive linemen, McKinnie, Winston, Romberg and Vernon Carey all started on O lines in the league in their careers. McKinnie was somewhat of a disappointment but held a starting spot with Minnesota and then Baltimore for years. Forgetting about Dan Morgan, who was a fucking beast in the NFL, but his career was cut a bit short because of concussions. Gore doesn't show up on the roster until the next year.
The 79 USC team - which has to be brought up on a Husky board of course - is a good comparison. Hard to say absolutely one over the other. Like any team, they both also had a lot of other very good players who were destined to be bigger stars at the college level than they would in the NFL. But in all likelihood there were at least 2 Hofamers, likely 3 and maybe 4, and a bunch of other players who played at that level for at least a time during their careers ... gives you something to talk about.
Vilma - that year they made him sit out because of the bounty scandal hurt his career. He was a fucking animal at both levels. The hits in the Nebraska game are both meme-worthy.
Santana Miss took the Hall of Fame hit on a kick return early in a 2000 gayme in Seattle by which the vaunted Hurricaiaiaiaines never recovered.
I was there.
Also Kenny Dorsey is a fag who mom should have aborted him.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
Either 2016 Stanford or 2022 Oregon St
Both were 10 win teams
Trick question, same year beating 2000 11-1 Beavlet who probably woulda won the natty if we didn't ruin it.
Excluding 2000?
I'm going to say Michigan State 2022 just so Damone suffers a stroke when he reads this over tears and whisky as he lurks logged out.
I know you're being sarcastic but I don't abide by fully diminishing ranked wins just because they end up looking worse later in the season.
The obvious reason is that if said ranked team doesn't lose then they would have another win and have a better record. The second less supported reason is that athletes of all levels are walking, running mental midgets that can and do get swayed in confidence by things like an early ass kicking by a big out of conference team.
Well you should abide. Early rankings are subjective bullshit based on a few fat fuck writers who couldn't hack it at actual publications and had to settle for sports. MSU proved themselves to be a bottom rung B10 team. Them being top 15 for the first couple of weeks was completely meaningless.
MSU might not have been an ideal example but I stand by my comment. Teams don't play at a specific level consistently all year.
And some just are overrated. Early season rankings are stupid.
So should the quality of all wins be purely based on end of season rankings? Teams get hit and cold and suffer crushing losses and inspiring wins. It's not a static season. If the MSU beats UW they could very easily have gone 8-4 or 9-3 for all we know. Go look at their schedule
About at the same place where the Santana Moss grease spot was. #Krambrink
I thought Krambrink had a shot to be someone after the Moss hit. You know, players make plays. Unfortunately he never made a play again. Hell of a way to be remembered though.
Nah that defense was okay. Just look filthy because of the jerseys.
Agree that overall it was above average.
Pharms and Akbar wanted to hit people tho
Secondary was pretty good. Lowe akbar williams vonture and our own @DerekJohnson. They didn’t play particularly well after williams was injured but they were solid. Their interior d line was weak if I remember.
Many people here have really forgotten how fucking good Anthony Vontoure was. Hard kid to manage, but when you could get him on the field, he was balls. Great combo of physicality and cover ability at corner.
I love that he was drinking Old English 40’s in the dorm room and JK Scott was shook.
About at the same place where the Santana Moss grease spot was. #Krambrink
I thought Krambrink had a shot to be someone after the Moss hit. You know, players make plays. Unfortunately he never made a play again. Hell of a way to be remembered though.
Nah that defense was okay. Just look filthy because of the jerseys.
Agree that overall it was above average.
Pharms and Akbar wanted to hit people tho
Secondary was pretty good. Lowe akbar williams vonture and our own @DerekJohnson. They didn’t play particularly well after williams was injured but they were solid. Their interior d line was weak if I remember.
Many people here have really forgotten how fucking good Anthony Vontoure was. Hard kid to manage, but when you could get him on the field, he was balls. Great combo of physicality and cover ability at corner.
I love that he was drinking Old English 40’s in the dorm room and JK Scott was shook.
I don't remember if I included this in The Dawgs of War, but Derrell Daniels told me that they'd be sitting in the dorms, and Vontoure would suddenly lean forward and go into a complete handstand in the middle of the room, like a gymnast or whatever.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I mean how often do you beat the team that finishes the season ranked #2? That win is likely to hold up for a very long tim.
Completely. I mean they didn’t lose again for 30+ games until the tOSU Clarett/Tressel fiesta bowel.
I would suggest that no football team has ever played in Husky stadium with as much talent on the roster as 2000 Miami. And that includes when the Seahawks played there.
(No idea how to do the research to back that up so I’ll go with it)
Not really going to argue the point but some legendary USC teams have been to Husky Stadium
John McKay teams loaded with hall of fame guys
Either way
Since you were there, you are right. I had to go look it up.
The U 2000 team still only has 1 HOFer: Ed Reed. Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are the other two who seem likely to make the hall, but with the inflation of WR stats who knows when or if that will happen. Vince Wilfork was a freshman and he is the other who might make it. I mean someone from those Patriots teams besides Brady/Belichik has to. I don't think Jonathan Vilma did enough.
1957 and 1959 hosting USC, Trooj has Willie Wood and Ron Mix.
1979 hosting USC should have had Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews on the team. That's the only year the 4 of them were on the same roster (going off their wikipedia career info). 1981 would have had Allen and Matthews, 1977 Munoz and Lott.
I'd just look at the NFL careers. HOF requires some luck where longevity is concerned. But even with that, you have likely, and potentially three or four HOFmers in some combination of Johnson, Wayne and Wilfork going with Reed. Johnson and Wayne were both tippy top receivers in the NFL for a long time. Johnson played on shitty teams, and Wayne racked up numbers sharing the ball with Harrison and Edge. Wayne was a finalist last year and will eventually get in I think. In addition to his raw historically elite numbers, I think what will get him over the hump was how good he was in the post-season. I assume voters care about that. You have some bad luck with Sean Taylor, who didn't start until the 2001 season, who didn't get a chance to build what many expected to be a HOF career. A rare dude. Again, think Kenny Easley, who also should be in the HOF. Too much Advil bro.
Beyond HOF status, you have Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jeremy Shockey, Winslow Jr., Vilma ... all top players in the NFL. Some careers were shortened but each of them was an impact player at the next level. Of the offensive linemen, McKinnie, Winston, Romberg and Vernon Carey all started on O lines in the league in their careers. McKinnie was somewhat of a disappointment but held a starting spot with Minnesota and then Baltimore for years. Forgetting about Dan Morgan, who was a fucking beast in the NFL, but his career was cut a bit short because of concussions. Gore doesn't show up on the roster until the next year.
The 79 USC team - which has to be brought up on a Husky board of course - is a good comparison. Hard to say absolutely one over the other. Like any team, they both also had a lot of other very good players who were destined to be bigger stars at the college level than they would in the NFL. But in all likelihood there were at least 2 Hofamers, likely 3 and maybe 4, and a bunch of other players who played at that level for at least a time during their careers ... gives you something to talk about.
Vilma - that year they made him sit out because of the bounty scandal hurt his career. He was a fucking animal at both levels. The hits in the Nebraska game are both meme-worthy.
Santana Miss took the Hall of Fame hit on a kick return early in a 2000 gayme in Seattle by which the vaunted Hurricaiaiaiaines never recovered.
I was there.
Also Kenny Dorsey is a fag who mom should have aborted him.
So was I. If a bit hit on a gimpy 5'8" wide receiver on kick off is HOF, you need a new HOF. Also, it's "from which," you illiterate whore. We speak ENGLISH in this country.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
Either 2016 Stanford or 2022 Oregon St
Both were 10 win teams
Trick question, same year beating 2000 11-1 Beavlet who probably woulda won the natty if we didn't ruin it.
Excluding 2000?
I'm going to say Michigan State 2022 just so Damone suffers a stroke when he reads this over tears and whisky as he lurks logged out.
I know you're being sarcastic but I don't abide by fully diminishing ranked wins just because they end up looking worse later in the season.
The obvious reason is that if said ranked team doesn't lose then they would have another win and have a better record. The second less supported reason is that athletes of all levels are walking, running mental midgets that can and do get swayed in confidence by things like an early ass kicking by a big out of conference team.
Well you should abide. Early rankings are subjective bullshit based on a few fat fuck writers who couldn't hack it at actual publications and had to settle for sports. MSU proved themselves to be a bottom rung B10 team. Them being top 15 for the first couple of weeks was completely meaningless.
MSU might not have been an ideal example but I stand by my comment. Teams don't play at a specific level consistently all year.
And some just are overrated. Early season rankings are stupid.
So should the quality of all wins be purely based on end of season rankings? Teams get hit and cold and suffer crushing losses and inspiring wins. It's not a static season. If the MSU beats UW they could very easily have gone 8-4 or 9-3 for all we know. Go look at their schedule
It's a fair point. We? often judge in-season wins by final record, and of course sometimes that's right. When pre-season #1 winds up 6-7, then that pre-season ranking was bullshit. But there are other scenarios.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I mean how often do you beat the team that finishes the season ranked #2? That win is likely to hold up for a very long tim.
Completely. I mean they didn’t lose again for 30+ games until the tOSU Clarett/Tressel fiesta bowel.
I would suggest that no football team has ever played in Husky stadium with as much talent on the roster as 2000 Miami. And that includes when the Seahawks played there.
(No idea how to do the research to back that up so I’ll go with it)
Not really going to argue the point but some legendary USC teams have been to Husky Stadium
John McKay teams loaded with hall of fame guys
Either way
Since you were there, you are right. I had to go look it up.
The U 2000 team still only has 1 HOFer: Ed Reed. Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are the other two who seem likely to make the hall, but with the inflation of WR stats who knows when or if that will happen. Vince Wilfork was a freshman and he is the other who might make it. I mean someone from those Patriots teams besides Brady/Belichik has to. I don't think Jonathan Vilma did enough.
1957 and 1959 hosting USC, Trooj has Willie Wood and Ron Mix.
1979 hosting USC should have had Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews on the team. That's the only year the 4 of them were on the same roster (going off their wikipedia career info). 1981 would have had Allen and Matthews, 1977 Munoz and Lott.
I'd just look at the NFL careers. HOF requires some luck where longevity is concerned. But even with that, you have likely, and potentially three or four HOFmers in some combination of Johnson, Wayne and Wilfork going with Reed. Johnson and Wayne were both tippy top receivers in the NFL for a long time. Johnson played on shitty teams, and Wayne racked up numbers sharing the ball with Harrison and Edge. Wayne was a finalist last year and will eventually get in I think. In addition to his raw historically elite numbers, I think what will get him over the hump was how good he was in the post-season. I assume voters care about that. You have some bad luck with Sean Taylor, who didn't start until the 2001 season, who didn't get a chance to build what many expected to be a HOF career. A rare dude. Again, think Kenny Easley, who also should be in the HOF. Too much Advil bro.
Beyond HOF status, you have Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jeremy Shockey, Winslow Jr., Vilma ... all top players in the NFL. Some careers were shortened but each of them was an impact player at the next level. Of the offensive linemen, McKinnie, Winston, Romberg and Vernon Carey all started on O lines in the league in their careers. McKinnie was somewhat of a disappointment but held a starting spot with Minnesota and then Baltimore for years. Forgetting about Dan Morgan, who was a fucking beast in the NFL, but his career was cut a bit short because of concussions. Gore doesn't show up on the roster until the next year.
The 79 USC team - which has to be brought up on a Husky board of course - is a good comparison. Hard to say absolutely one over the other. Like any team, they both also had a lot of other very good players who were destined to be bigger stars at the college level than they would in the NFL. But in all likelihood there were at least 2 Hofamers, likely 3 and maybe 4, and a bunch of other players who played at that level for at least a time during their careers ... gives you something to talk about.
Vilma - that year they made him sit out because of the bounty scandal hurt his career. He was a fucking animal at both levels. The hits in the Nebraska game are both meme-worthy.
Correction - Easley is in the HOF. I don't know why I keep forgetting that. At least they got that right. Should have been first ballot.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I mean how often do you beat the team that finishes the season ranked #2? That win is likely to hold up for a very long tim.
Completely. I mean they didn’t lose again for 30+ games until the tOSU Clarett/Tressel fiesta bowel.
I would suggest that no football team has ever played in Husky stadium with as much talent on the roster as 2000 Miami. And that includes when the Seahawks played there.
(No idea how to do the research to back that up so I’ll go with it)
Not really going to argue the point but some legendary USC teams have been to Husky Stadium
John McKay teams loaded with hall of fame guys
Either way
Since you were there, you are right. I had to go look it up.
The U 2000 team still only has 1 HOFer: Ed Reed. Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are the other two who seem likely to make the hall, but with the inflation of WR stats who knows when or if that will happen. Vince Wilfork was a freshman and he is the other who might make it. I mean someone from those Patriots teams besides Brady/Belichik has to. I don't think Jonathan Vilma did enough.
1957 and 1959 hosting USC, Trooj has Willie Wood and Ron Mix.
1979 hosting USC should have had Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews on the team. That's the only year the 4 of them were on the same roster (going off their wikipedia career info). 1981 would have had Allen and Matthews, 1977 Munoz and Lott.
I'd just look at the NFL careers. HOF requires some luck where longevity is concerned. But even with that, you have likely, and potentially three or four HOFmers in some combination of Johnson, Wayne and Wilfork going with Reed. Johnson and Wayne were both tippy top receivers in the NFL for a long time. Johnson played on shitty teams, and Wayne racked up numbers sharing the ball with Harrison and Edge. Wayne was a finalist last year and will eventually get in I think. In addition to his raw historically elite numbers, I think what will get him over the hump was how good he was in the post-season. I assume voters care about that. You have some bad luck with Sean Taylor, who didn't start until the 2001 season, who didn't get a chance to build what many expected to be a HOF career. A rare dude. Again, think Kenny Easley, who also should be in the HOF. Too much Advil bro.
Beyond HOF status, you have Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jeremy Shockey, Winslow Jr., Vilma ... all top players in the NFL. Some careers were shortened but each of them was an impact player at the next level. Of the offensive linemen, McKinnie, Winston, Romberg and Vernon Carey all started on O lines in the league in their careers. McKinnie was somewhat of a disappointment but held a starting spot with Minnesota and then Baltimore for years. Forgetting about Dan Morgan, who was a fucking beast in the NFL, but his career was cut a bit short because of concussions. Gore doesn't show up on the roster until the next year.
The 79 USC team - which has to be brought up on a Husky board of course - is a good comparison. Hard to say absolutely one over the other. Like any team, they both also had a lot of other very good players who were destined to be bigger stars at the college level than they would in the NFL. But in all likelihood there were at least 2 Hofamers, likely 3 and maybe 4, and a bunch of other players who played at that level for at least a time during their careers ... gives you something to talk about.
Vilma - that year they made him sit out because of the bounty scandal hurt his career. He was a fucking animal at both levels. The hits in the Nebraska game are both meme-worthy.
Santana Miss took the Hall of Fame hit on a kick return early in a 2000 gayme in Seattle by which the vaunted Hurricaiaiaiaines never recovered.
I was there.
Also Kenny Dorsey is a fag who mom should have aborted him.
So was I. If a bit hit on a gimpy 5'8" wide receiver on kick off is HOF, you need a new HOF. Also, it's "from which," you illiterate whore. We speak ENGLISH in this country.
I'll go with it. What's the best home win since that 2000 team beat Miami? Don't say #3 USC in 2009, they ended up going 5-4 (good for 6th in the P12).
I mean how often do you beat the team that finishes the season ranked #2? That win is likely to hold up for a very long tim.
Completely. I mean they didn’t lose again for 30+ games until the tOSU Clarett/Tressel fiesta bowel.
I would suggest that no football team has ever played in Husky stadium with as much talent on the roster as 2000 Miami. And that includes when the Seahawks played there.
(No idea how to do the research to back that up so I’ll go with it)
Not really going to argue the point but some legendary USC teams have been to Husky Stadium
John McKay teams loaded with hall of fame guys
Either way
Since you were there, you are right. I had to go look it up.
The U 2000 team still only has 1 HOFer: Ed Reed. Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are the other two who seem likely to make the hall, but with the inflation of WR stats who knows when or if that will happen. Vince Wilfork was a freshman and he is the other who might make it. I mean someone from those Patriots teams besides Brady/Belichik has to. I don't think Jonathan Vilma did enough.
1957 and 1959 hosting USC, Trooj has Willie Wood and Ron Mix.
1979 hosting USC should have had Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews on the team. That's the only year the 4 of them were on the same roster (going off their wikipedia career info). 1981 would have had Allen and Matthews, 1977 Munoz and Lott.
I'd just look at the NFL careers. HOF requires some luck where longevity is concerned. But even with that, you have likely, and potentially three or four HOFmers in some combination of Johnson, Wayne and Wilfork going with Reed. Johnson and Wayne were both tippy top receivers in the NFL for a long time. Johnson played on shitty teams, and Wayne racked up numbers sharing the ball with Harrison and Edge. Wayne was a finalist last year and will eventually get in I think. In addition to his raw historically elite numbers, I think what will get him over the hump was how good he was in the post-season. I assume voters care about that. You have some bad luck with Sean Taylor, who didn't start until the 2001 season, who didn't get a chance to build what many expected to be a HOF career. A rare dude. Again, think Kenny Easley, who also should be in the HOF. Too much Advil bro.
Beyond HOF status, you have Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jeremy Shockey, Winslow Jr., Vilma ... all top players in the NFL. Some careers were shortened but each of them was an impact player at the next level. Of the offensive linemen, McKinnie, Winston, Romberg and Vernon Carey all started on O lines in the league in their careers. McKinnie was somewhat of a disappointment but held a starting spot with Minnesota and then Baltimore for years. Forgetting about Dan Morgan, who was a fucking beast in the NFL, but his career was cut a bit short because of concussions. Gore doesn't show up on the roster until the next year.
The 79 USC team - which has to be brought up on a Husky board of course - is a good comparison. Hard to say absolutely one over the other. Like any team, they both also had a lot of other very good players who were destined to be bigger stars at the college level than they would in the NFL. But in all likelihood there were at least 2 Hofamers, likely 3 and maybe 4, and a bunch of other players who played at that level for at least a time during their careers ... gives you something to talk about.
Vilma - that year they made him sit out because of the bounty scandal hurt his career. He was a fucking animal at both levels. The hits in the Nebraska game are both meme-worthy.
Santana Miss took the Hall of Fame hit on a kick return early in a 2000 gayme in Seattle by which the vaunted Hurricaiaiaiaines never recovered.
I was there.
Also Kenny Dorsey is a fag who mom should have aborted him.
So was I. If a bit hit on a gimpy 5'8" wide receiver on kick off is HOF, you need a new HOF. Also, it's "from which," you illiterate whore. We speak ENGLISH in this country.
Santana Moss was the second coming of the messiah. Everybody said so, until that hit.
Uh, Santana Moss came into that game with a high ankle sprain and wasn't expected to play at all, which was publicly known. He was ballz for Miami in his career and had a 13-year career in the NFL, most of those as a starter and a guy who beat a lot of NFL teams deep over that time. That kind of player gets a lot of pub around these parts if he comes from the right school.
Moss was a tough motherfucker and at 5'9" (stand corrected) and a buck something took way more than one big hit and always kept rolling. The ankle was the problem that day and the reason he caught one pass and was pulled.
Show me a straight on hit on a 220lb H back running clear with a full head of steam the force of which dislodges the ball and the kid's soul. That's a hit worth bragging about 23 years later bub. Do better or go make me a sammich.
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Beyond HOF status, you have Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jeremy Shockey, Winslow Jr., Vilma ... all top players in the NFL. Some careers were shortened but each of them was an impact player at the next level. Of the offensive linemen, McKinnie, Winston, Romberg and Vernon Carey all started on O lines in the league in their careers. McKinnie was somewhat of a disappointment but held a starting spot with Minnesota and then Baltimore for years. Forgetting about Dan Morgan, who was a fucking beast in the NFL, but his career was cut a bit short because of concussions. Gore doesn't show up on the roster until the next year.
The 79 USC team - which has to be brought up on a Husky board of course - is a good comparison. Hard to say absolutely one over the other. Like any team, they both also had a lot of other very good players who were destined to be bigger stars at the college level than they would in the NFL. But in all likelihood there were at least 2 Hofamers, likely 3 and maybe 4, and a bunch of other players who played at that level for at least a time during their careers ... gives you something to talk about.
Vilma - that year they made him sit out because of the bounty scandal hurt his career. He was a fucking animal at both levels. The hits in the Nebraska game are both meme-worthy.
And you're on a Washington board.
I was there.
Also Kenny Dorsey is a fag who mom should have aborted him.
I'll help you out mochambo: THIS is a hit.
We? do speak the engrish.
Santana Moss was the second coming of the messiah. Everybody said so, until that hit.
Moss was a tough motherfucker and at 5'9" (stand corrected) and a buck something took way more than one big hit and always kept rolling. The ankle was the problem that day and the reason he caught one pass and was pulled.
Show me a straight on hit on a 220lb H back running clear with a full head of steam the force of which dislodges the ball and the kid's soul. That's a hit worth bragging about 23 years later bub. Do better or go make me a sammich.