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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    edited May 2023
    A lot of Jimmy Buckets slander I will not stand for. This fuck carried a bunch of undrafted guys and the biggest Jekyl and Hyde player in Bam to the NBA finals… TWICE.

    Spo is a top 20 coach of all time. If he wins this finals he’s top 10.

    I saw some insane stat that Pat Riley has been in 25% of the NBA finals as a player, coach, or GM. It might be a little less/more than that but that’s batshit crazy.

    The Heat are a 1st class organization in professional sports. I think the Nuggets will win the ship rather easily because Jokic is a generational player… but what the Heat did this year is nothing short of remarkable.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    edited May 2023
    I’m so happy these Boston Celtics fags died by the 3. They won games 456 because they thought they were the Warriors and the shots were going in. I’m so sick of fucking 3 ball.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,762 Founders Club
    The Riley stat is correct. Played on the West Baylor teams. Coached 9 finals with Magic - 8 as head man. 7 finals in Miami

    Maybe without LeBron in the way Jimmy can finally FINISH

    LeBron owned him in the east then beat him in 2020 in the finals

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Never going to crown Jimmy unless he does it.

    Heat defense and coaching is what did it. Jimmy plays great defense, but still.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club

    I’m so happy these Boston Celtics fags died by the 3. They won games 456 because they thought they were the Warriors and the shots were going in. I’m so sick of fucking 3 ball.

    The problem is that the East is as bad as it's ever been.

    They will probably move off some guys but in that ass conference they will always be in the mix jacking up shots.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,173 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    I’m so happy these Boston Celtics fags died by the 3. They won games 456 because they thought they were the Warriors and the shots were going in. I’m so sick of fucking 3 ball.

    The problem is that the East is as bad as it's ever been.

    They will probably move off some guys but in that ass conference they will always be in the mix jacking up shots.
    Outside of Denver, who in the west is any better? East was the better conference all year long.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    So many @haie takes in the last few pages of this thread.

    This is the 3rd NBA finals that Coach Spo has made without Bron. And Jimmy was a bad blockout by a teammate by winning this in 6.

    Denver and Miami play the same game. Disciplined ball movement and good D with few live ball TO’s And neither get rattled. Most teams would have folded up the tent after losing that game 6 that way and having to go back to Boston for 7. But coach reminded them that they owned that building.

    I think Denver will have their hands full in this one. Miami gets 3 guys scoring every night without Bam. And He’s prolly gonna get his shot back. I like #mynuggies still. But in no less than 6 games.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    edited May 2023
    As I get older, the hot take bullshit gets more annoying. The Celtics should keep their core. They aren’t going to get better by trading Jaylen Brown. Horford, Smart, and other role players are the ones to switch out.

    They should maybe get a new coach or at least get him some veteran assistants that know defensive schemes. If it was Doc Rivers, I would fire him but Mazzula is 34 years old and got thrown into the job. He can and should improve with time.

    The roster is maybe the best in the NBA and the two best players are still young. I would change the coach before changing out a 25+ per game scorer. They will never be a dynasty, but Tatum and Brown have a championship in them.

    A few years ago, the hot take was that Giannis would never win in Milwaukee and had to leave. He won a title the next year. The NBA is easily the professional league most swayed by public opinion. It’s a disappointing year for the Celtics, but continuity does matter.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029
    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.







  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,762 Founders Club
    Not firing the guy who got you to the Finals was what they needed to do
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,627 Founders Club

    As I get older, the hot take bullshit gets more annoying. The Celtics should keep their core. They aren’t going to get better by trading Jaylen Brown. Horford, Smart, and other role players are the ones to switch out.

    They should maybe get a new coach or at least get him some veteran assistants that know defensive schemes. If it was Doc Rivers, I would fire him but Mazzula is 34 years old and got thrown into the job. He can and should improve with time.

    The roster is maybe the best in the NBA and the two best players are still young. I would change the coach before changing out a 25+ per game scorer. They will never be a dynasty, but Tatum and Brown have a championship in them.

    A few years ago, the hot take was that Giannis would never win in Milwaukee and had to leave. He won a title the next year. The NBA is easily the professional league most swayed by public opinion. It’s a disappointing year for the Celtics, but continuity does matter.

    Brown is 26 and Tatum is 25. I could see giving them a couple more cracks at it. Jordan, I. Thomas and LeBron were all 27 when they won their first. Magic had Kareem, Duncan had Robinson, Kobe had Shaq, Bird had Maxwell and Archibald. Problem is, I just don’t think Brown or Tatum are that kind of player. Tatum would be the closest of the two but I think you’re looking at a franchise that has two Pippens and no Jordan. Two Klay Thompsons but no Curry. Two Tony Parker’s but no Tim Duncan. Probably HOF good but not an all timer to push you over the top. Maybe if they found a Larry Brown type coach that could create a formula for success not involving 45 threes a game and centering around defense they could scratch out a title. Who knows, I’m skeptical.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.







    Mike Brown? Seriously?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029
    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    edited June 2023

    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



    If you want a coach with experience, Nick Nurse or Budholzter. Both are better than Mike Brown. Mike Brown also already has a job and contract. This isn’t college football where coaches bounce around unless they get fired.

    Why are you so stuck on big egos and what has Mike Brown ever won?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029

    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



    If you want a coach with experience, Nick Nurse or Budholzter. Both are better than Mike Brown. Mike Brown also already has a job and contract. This isn’t college football where coaches bounce around unless they get fired.

    Why are you so stuck on big egos and what has Mike Brown ever won?
    Nurse and Bud would be similar. Older, experienced.

    Let's be clear - Nurse won with Kawhi and Bud won with Giannis. Neither Brown nor Tatum are Kawhi and Giannis but egos (Tatum's especially) are more on the LeBron level.

    Brown has reached ceiling in Sac with the available talent. His window will close as the young core starts entering free agency. Get while the getting is good.

    People forget Bud spent time with Atlanta and parted ways to go to Milwaukee. So changing teams does happen in the NBA.

    Common thread - they all come from the Popp tree.


  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128



    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



    If you want a coach with experience, Nick Nurse or Budholzter. Both are better than Mike Brown. Mike Brown also already has a job and contract. This isn’t college football where coaches bounce around unless they get fired.

    Why are you so stuck on big egos and what has Mike Brown ever won?
    Nurse and Bud would be similar. Older, experienced.

    Let's be clear - Nurse won with Kawhi and Bud won with Giannis. Neither Brown nor Tatum are Kawhi and Giannis but egos (Tatum's especially) are more on the LeBron level.

    Brown has reached ceiling in Sac with the available talent. His window will close as the young core starts entering free agency. Get while the getting is good.

    People forget Bud spent time with Atlanta and parted ways to go to Milwaukee. So changing teams does happen in the NBA.

    Common thread - they all come from the Popp tree.


    Bud got fired from Atlanta. The Clippers trading for Doc is the only time I can remember a coach under contract changing teams. And they had to trade for him.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    So many @haie takes in the last few pages of this thread.

    This is the 3rd NBA finals that Coach Spo has made without Bron. And Jimmy was a bad blockout by a teammate by winning this in 6.

    Denver and Miami play the same game. Disciplined ball movement and good D with few live ball TO’s And neither get rattled. Most teams would have folded up the tent after losing that game 6 that way and having to go back to Boston for 7. But coach reminded them that they owned that building.

    I think Denver will have their hands full in this one. Miami gets 3 guys scoring every night without Bam. And He’s prolly gonna get his shot back. I like #mynuggies still. But in no less than 6 games.

    Thanks for reading.

    Looks like everyone is right about Denver.

    No one gives a fuck about "disciplined ball movement" at the NBA level.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,268
    I am apparently very late in fully appreciating Nicola Jokic. Holy shit that dood.

    The GOAT Serbian athlete is without question the Tug's Novak Djokovic but Jokic with 2 MVPs and laying waste to all competition in the playoffs is building a foundation to have a claim someday.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,121
    whlinder said:

    I am apparently very late in fully appreciating Nicola Jokic. Holy shit that dood.

    The GOAT Serbian athlete is without question the Tug's Novak Djokovic but Jokic with 2 MVPs and laying waste to all competition in the playoffs is building a foundation to have a claim someday.

    He will be a top 5 player of all time by the time he hangs it up.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,762 Founders Club
    When I first saw Jokic a few years back I called him a beer league center. As a compliment really. He didn't look the part but he was the guy in the pick up game with a beer gut who had all the skills and you'd wonder how the fuck he was so good

    He's really turned into something
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,173 Standard Supporter
    Anyone paying attention to the fact that most of the young, top shelf players are not American?
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Anyone paying attention to the fact that most of the young, top shelf players are not American?

    No different than all the Hawaiians in the NFL. I still don't get how they navigate the language narriers.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    When I first saw Jokic a few years back I called him a beer league center. As a compliment really. He didn't look the part but he was the guy in the pick up game with a beer gut who had all the skills and you'd wonder how the fuck he was so good

    He's really turned into something

    He always was something. But it took 2 MVP’s, a social justice screw job and a Championship run for most to notice.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited June 2023
    haie said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    So many @haie takes in the last few pages of this thread.

    This is the 3rd NBA finals that Coach Spo has made without Bron. And Jimmy was a bad blockout by a teammate by winning this in 6.

    Denver and Miami play the same game. Disciplined ball movement and good D with few live ball TO’s And neither get rattled. Most teams would have folded up the tent after losing that game 6 that way and having to go back to Boston for 7. But coach reminded them that they owned that building.

    I think Denver will have their hands full in this one. Miami gets 3 guys scoring every night without Bam. And He’s prolly gonna get his shot back. I like #mynuggies still. But in no less than 6 games.

    Thanks for reading.

    Looks like everyone is right about Denver.

    No one gives a fuck about "disciplined ball movement" at the NBA level.
    I was right about Denver. You are almost always wrong. Just keep sucking down shit IPA’s and leave the sports talk to those that don’t do tech support for a livin.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029
    Kaepsknee said:

    When I first saw Jokic a few years back I called him a beer league center. As a compliment really. He didn't look the part but he was the guy in the pick up game with a beer gut who had all the skills and you'd wonder how the fuck he was so good

    He's really turned into something

    He always was something. But it took 2 MVP’s, a social justice screw job and a Championship run for most to notice.
    That and he dropped 30 pounds.


  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    Kaepsknee said:

    When I first saw Jokic a few years back I called him a beer league center. As a compliment really. He didn't look the part but he was the guy in the pick up game with a beer gut who had all the skills and you'd wonder how the fuck he was so good

    He's really turned into something

    He always was something. But it took 2 MVP’s, a social justice screw job and a Championship run for most to notice.
    When was the social Justice screw job? This year? Jokic is better than Embiid but averaging 33 on a 54 win is MVP worthy.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    haie said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    So many @haie takes in the last few pages of this thread.

    This is the 3rd NBA finals that Coach Spo has made without Bron. And Jimmy was a bad blockout by a teammate by winning this in 6.

    Denver and Miami play the same game. Disciplined ball movement and good D with few live ball TO’s And neither get rattled. Most teams would have folded up the tent after losing that game 6 that way and having to go back to Boston for 7. But coach reminded them that they owned that building.

    I think Denver will have their hands full in this one. Miami gets 3 guys scoring every night without Bam. And He’s prolly gonna get his shot back. I like #mynuggies still. But in no less than 6 games.

    Thanks for reading.

    Looks like everyone is right about Denver.

    No one gives a fuck about "disciplined ball movement" at the NBA level.
    I was right about Denver. You are almost always wrong. Just keep sucking down shit IPA’s and leave the sports talk to those that don’t do tech support for a livin.
    lol.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    Kaepsknee said:

    When I first saw Jokic a few years back I called him a beer league center. As a compliment really. He didn't look the part but he was the guy in the pick up game with a beer gut who had all the skills and you'd wonder how the fuck he was so good

    He's really turned into something

    He always was something. But it took 2 MVP’s, a social justice screw job and a Championship run for most to notice.
    When was the social Justice screw job? This year? Jokic is better than Embiid but averaging 33 on a 54 win is MVP worthy.
    Less social justice although some commentators mentioned it. The bigger reality was more fatigue from giving it to a guy 3 straight years. It's why players like shaq, Jordan, Duncan, and lbj have less mvp's than they should.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    edited June 2023

    Kaepsknee said:

    When I first saw Jokic a few years back I called him a beer league center. As a compliment really. He didn't look the part but he was the guy in the pick up game with a beer gut who had all the skills and you'd wonder how the fuck he was so good

    He's really turned into something

    He always was something. But it took 2 MVP’s, a social justice screw job and a Championship run for most to notice.
    When was the social Justice screw job? This year? Jokic is better than Embiid but averaging 33 on a 54 win is MVP worthy.
    Less social justice although some commentators mentioned it. The bigger reality was more fatigue from giving it to a guy 3 straight years. It's why players like shaq, Jordan, Duncan, and lbj have less mvp's than they should.
    Sure, if you're a Noogget like Salem-KKKeizer and that's your argument, then fine.

    But the NBA isn't giving Embiid the trophy just because he mildly whined a year ago and Kendrick Perkins thinks the voters are too white.

    I mean, if Lillard gets drafted by the 76er's or Knicks he probably has one MVP. It's not a serious thing and neither is the regular season.