She isn't wrong here, and IF Trump drags us into some bullshit war I will be right here saying he should get the fuck out. But, the nuclear strikes, as a very limited singular objective, were 100% needed and justified. With any luck now that the objective has been met (apparently) we can work on a diplomatic path forward with any non-lunatics left alive in Iran and achieve a lasting peace with no worry about a nuclear armed terrorist state in the near future.
I’ll die on the hill that Queen is vastly overrated
I think the bigger issue is why Trump is being vilified for doing what should have been done years ago, by any former president, regardless of party affiliation. Iran and the nuclear question has been a global problem for decades. Clinton, Bush(s), Obama and Biden all sat back and kicked the can down the road on Iran. The fact that we are here when party lines have spanned to their most outer edges, makes the optics look even worse. Yet Trump did do the right thing in the end. Watching Rep. Tokuda from Hawaii speak just now made me wanna vomit, not because of the personal attack on President Trump, that was inevitable but because she didn’t address the outcome. Iran has been neutralized as a rogue terrorist state. One that could have had much bigger implications on the safety of the US, Middle East and the world had they achieved nuclear status.
I see San Francisco gay Bob is back.
Most of the posts here be like "I hate wars but (rationalization)."
There is a 1 million man Iranian military there. We have 40k spread around. Regime change usually fails. Probably Iran will try rebooting their nukes research.
The Throbber does not know if yesterday’s attack will trigger WW3. Still don’t know if fucking around in Ukraine will trigger WW3. Don’t know if the accumulation of Chinese forces near Taiwan will trigger WW3
What the Throbber does know is that every additional action/reaction by the US moves that possibility one step closer.
Yes, the dismantling (supposedly) of Iran’s alleged nuke program is probably a good thing. But if that strike was the precursor to “regime change” or “DeMoCraCY” or “America’s greatest ally”, fuck that. The next few days of propaganda will tell the tale on whether we are getting fooled again or if the action taken stands on its own.
Pledging blind loyalty to Israel is no different than the alliances that drug the entirety of Europe into war in 1914. Each conflict needs to stand on its own and the interests of the US are paramount. Treaties are one thing - but if the other party (in this case Israel) fucks around, it’s not our job to deliver the find out
Until we get our own shit together we shouldn’t be expending resources to sort out others shit.
Endless wars need to end.
Pre-Elon Twitter would be banning people for posting these facts.
The Obama deal was to allow Iran to get nukes
The Islamic regime that took over re-introduced black slavery so the dems could laugh about taking out Ghadafi.