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  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,104 Standard Supporter

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.

    Fight socialism/communism everywhere has been our motto. Except among young people just getting out of the reeducation camps called college here in the U.S.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.

    So, @HardlyClothed is openly rooting for Putin, then?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,104 Standard Supporter

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.

    So, @HardlyClothed is openly rooting for Putin, then?
    Only natural for the commie crew.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,943

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.





    Why are all these people "meddling." Btw, I wonder if our resident socialist opposed our "meddling" in South Africa.
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Sledog said:

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.

    Fight socialism/communism everywhere has been our motto. Except among young people just getting out of the reeducation camps called college here in the U.S.
    Thank god for that motto, otherwise we never would have done Vietnam
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I’m just wondering why all the Gray countries didn’t get to participate in the Poll. Bloomberg research racism?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,479 Founders Club
    Like I like to say, if Putin would announce today that he is a communist and is reviving the Soviet Union the left would line up to suck his dick

    This is just another example of how Trump is being blackmailed by Putin.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,395 Swaye's Wigwam

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.

    So you are on record as supporting a communist dictator rigging elections and using violence to suppress legitimate elections?
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.

    But the left would love him.
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.





    Why are all these people "meddling." Btw, I wonder if our resident socialist opposed our "meddling" in South Africa.
    They are meddling and have no business doing so. This coup is clearly led by us though. There’s a WSJ article about Pence calling the guy and telling him to declare himself president and the US will support him. How “organic”.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,479 Founders Club

    Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.

    But the left would love him.

    If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wrote

    What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.

    We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.

    So you are on record as supporting a communist dictator rigging elections and using violence to suppress legitimate elections?
    Ah yes, saying we have no business interventing there means I also support the dictatorship.

    “We shouldn’t invade Iraq it will be a disaster”

    “So you’re on record as supporting Saddam and his violent repression of his people? Traitor!!!”
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.

    But the left would love him.

    If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wrote

    What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles
    Well one basic difference is that the enormous wealth is held privately by a priveleged few and not controlled by the state.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    and who controls The State?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,479 Founders Club

    Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.

    But the left would love him.

    If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wrote

    What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles
    Well one basic difference is that the enormous wealth is held privately by a priveleged few and not controlled by the state.
    That's actually not different at all

    In old Soviet Union some people were always more equal than others and the "state" was the thugs who ran the party and lived in fabulous Dachas

    There is more wealth now so that's different
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.

    But the left would love him.

    If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wrote

    What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles
    Well one basic difference is that the enormous wealth is held privately by a priveleged few and not controlled by the state.
    That's actually not different at all

    In old Soviet Union some people were always more equal than others and the "state" was the thugs who ran the party and lived in fabulous Dachas

    There is more wealth now so that's different
    Yes, corruption was the biggest problem and the downfall of the Soviet Union. Not disputing that.

    Before the fall in ‘91 the average person was better off than they are now due to flawed but effective state programs. Privatization in the mid 90s led to the biggest decline in life expectancy (outside of war) in the entire 20th century as those services were cut and state owned assets were snatched up by the current oligarchs. The Clinton admin mangled the post-Soviet economic transition.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,104 Standard Supporter

    Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.

    But the left would love him.

    Putin would go full commie if he thought he could. Get a clue.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    To be clear, you’re advocating we should adopt a pre-‘91 Soviet lifestyle to improve?
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