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Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.
But the left would love him. -
They are meddling and have no business doing so. This coup is clearly led by us though. There’s a WSJ article about Pence calling the guy and telling him to declare himself president and the US will support him. How “organic”.SFGbob said:HardlyClothed said:But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.
We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.
Why are all these people "meddling." Btw, I wonder if our resident socialist opposed our "meddling" in South Africa. -
If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wroteHardlyClothed said:Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.
But the left would love him.
What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles -
Ah yes, saying we have no business interventing there means I also support the dictatorship.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So you are on record as supporting a communist dictator rigging elections and using violence to suppress legitimate elections?HardlyClothed said:But it is a coup. The end goal is clearly for the military to depose Maduro and elevate this guy noone had heard of 48 hours ago.
We have no business meddling like that. Her statement is good and correct.
“We shouldn’t invade Iraq it will be a disaster”
“So you’re on record as supporting Saddam and his violent repression of his people? Traitor!!!” -
Well one basic difference is that the enormous wealth is held privately by a priveleged few and not controlled by the state.RaceBannon said:
If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wroteHardlyClothed said:Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.
But the left would love him.
What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles -
and who controls The State?
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That's actually not different at allHardlyClothed said:
Well one basic difference is that the enormous wealth is held privately by a priveleged few and not controlled by the state.RaceBannon said:
If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wroteHardlyClothed said:Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.
But the left would love him.
What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles
In old Soviet Union some people were always more equal than others and the "state" was the thugs who ran the party and lived in fabulous Dachas
There is more wealth now so that's different -
Yes, corruption was the biggest problem and the downfall of the Soviet Union. Not disputing that.RaceBannon said:
That's actually not different at allHardlyClothed said:
Well one basic difference is that the enormous wealth is held privately by a priveleged few and not controlled by the state.RaceBannon said:
If he revived the Soviet Union? Yes, that's what I wroteHardlyClothed said:Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.
But the left would love him.
What's the difference between Putin and your run of the mill commie? They stole the assets the commies had stolen. Its still the state uber alles
In old Soviet Union some people were always more equal than others and the "state" was the thugs who ran the party and lived in fabulous Dachas
There is more wealth now so that's different
Before the fall in ‘91 the average person was better off than they are now due to flawed but effective state programs. Privatization in the mid 90s led to the biggest decline in life expectancy (outside of war) in the entire 20th century as those services were cut and state owned assets were snatched up by the current oligarchs. The Clinton admin mangled the post-Soviet economic transition. -
Putin would go full commie if he thought he could. Get a clue.HardlyClothed said:Putin is a right-wing nationalist leading an oligarchy of billionaires who made their money by acquiring (stealing) state assets during post-Soviet privatization.
But the left would love him. -
To be clear, you’re advocating we should adopt a pre-‘91 Soviet lifestyle to improve?
