Anti vaxxers among top threats to global health
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I hope this is trolling.MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
If not you are a dumb motherfucker. -
The CDC says flu vaccines reduce your risk of getting the flu by 40-60%:MikeDamone said:
No. They aren’t half ass stabs in the dark. Like I said, people (like you) amuse me.Pitchfork51 said:
I thought vaccines were like legit cures. Isn't a flu shot a half assed stab in the dark to maybe lower the chancesMikeDamone said:
Yes. Flu shots are a vaccine. The flu is more serious than the measles especially in terms of death. The same rules apply as the other diseases in terms or babies, people with band immune systems etc. 80,000 Americans died of the flu last flu season. But yeah, lets blow that off and lose our shit over 6 people dying from the measles in the last 10 years.Pitchfork51 said:
Are we putting people who don't get flu shots in with anti vaxxers?MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
Ive never had one I don't think. I was under the impression they aren't all that great or necessary. Or maybe I just never cared because I haven't had the flu since like 8 years old.
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm gonna rush over and get one now.
Just kidding. Die in a fire!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
So while not fool proof it has been life saving for certain populations (little kids, the elderly, and those with weakened immune systems).
I got the flu shot for the first time in about three years and - got the flu! But since I got the weakened version of the virus I was only out for a weekend instead of one to two weeks. -
Exactly. That and the fact that the flu doesn't spread like measles and such. We have essentially eradicated some diseases whereas the flu will not be eradicated unless we develop something different.Doog_de_Jour said:
The CDC says flu vaccines are about 40-60% effective:MikeDamone said:
No. They aren’t half ass stabs in the dark. Like I said, people (like you) amuse me.Pitchfork51 said:
I thought vaccines were like legit cures. Isn't a flu shot a half assed stab in the dark to maybe lower the chancesMikeDamone said:
Yes. Flu shots are a vaccine. The flu is more serious than the measles especially in terms of death. The same rules apply as the other diseases in terms or babies, people with band immune systems etc. 80,000 Americans died of the flu last flu season. But yeah, lets blow that off and lose our shit over 6 people dying from the measles in the last 10 years.Pitchfork51 said:
Are we putting people who don't get flu shots in with anti vaxxers?MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
Ive never had one I don't think. I was under the impression they aren't all that great or necessary. Or maybe I just never cared because I haven't had the flu since like 8 years old.
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm gonna rush over and get one now.
Just kidding. Die in a fire!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
So while not fool proof it has been life saving for certain populations (little kids, the elderly, and those with weakened immune systems).
I got the flu shot for the first time for about three years and - got the flu! But since I got the weakened version of the virus I was only out for a weekend instead of one to two weeks. -
Influenza mutates like a motherfucker. Vaccines are created based on annual forecasts of what 3-5 strains will be prevalent months in advance.Doog_de_Jour said:
The CDC says flu vaccines are about 40-60% effective:MikeDamone said:
No. They aren’t half ass stabs in the dark. Like I said, people (like you) amuse me.Pitchfork51 said:
I thought vaccines were like legit cures. Isn't a flu shot a half assed stab in the dark to maybe lower the chancesMikeDamone said:
Yes. Flu shots are a vaccine. The flu is more serious than the measles especially in terms of death. The same rules apply as the other diseases in terms or babies, people with band immune systems etc. 80,000 Americans died of the flu last flu season. But yeah, lets blow that off and lose our shit over 6 people dying from the measles in the last 10 years.Pitchfork51 said:
Are we putting people who don't get flu shots in with anti vaxxers?MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
Ive never had one I don't think. I was under the impression they aren't all that great or necessary. Or maybe I just never cared because I haven't had the flu since like 8 years old.
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm gonna rush over and get one now.
Just kidding. Die in a fire!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
So while not fool proof it has been life saving for certain populations (little kids, the elderly, and those with weakened immune systems).
I got the flu shot for the first time in about three years and - got the flu! But since I got the weakened version of the virus I was only out for a weekend instead of one to two weeks. -
True, but I think @MikeDamone’s argument isn’t without merit. The flu can be dangerous for some individuals, so it’s an important public health tool.2001400ex said:
Exactly. That and the fact that the flu doesn't spread like measles and such. We have essentially eradicated some diseases whereas the flu will not be eradicated unless we develop something different.Doog_de_Jour said:
The CDC says flu vaccines are about 40-60% effective:MikeDamone said:
No. They aren’t half ass stabs in the dark. Like I said, people (like you) amuse me.Pitchfork51 said:
I thought vaccines were like legit cures. Isn't a flu shot a half assed stab in the dark to maybe lower the chancesMikeDamone said:
Yes. Flu shots are a vaccine. The flu is more serious than the measles especially in terms of death. The same rules apply as the other diseases in terms or babies, people with band immune systems etc. 80,000 Americans died of the flu last flu season. But yeah, lets blow that off and lose our shit over 6 people dying from the measles in the last 10 years.Pitchfork51 said:
Are we putting people who don't get flu shots in with anti vaxxers?MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
Ive never had one I don't think. I was under the impression they aren't all that great or necessary. Or maybe I just never cared because I haven't had the flu since like 8 years old.
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm gonna rush over and get one now.
Just kidding. Die in a fire!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
So while not fool proof it has been life saving for certain populations (little kids, the elderly, and those with weakened immune systems).
I got the flu shot for the first time for about three years and - got the flu! But since I got the weakened version of the virus I was only out for a weekend instead of one to two weeks. -
I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
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Exactly. We are lucky pharmaceutical companies develop vaccines here at all!GrundleStiltzkin said:
Influenza mutates like a motherfucker. Vaccines are created based on annual forecasts of what 3-5 strains will be prevalent months in advance.Doog_de_Jour said:
The CDC says flu vaccines are about 40-60% effective:MikeDamone said:
No. They aren’t half ass stabs in the dark. Like I said, people (like you) amuse me.Pitchfork51 said:
I thought vaccines were like legit cures. Isn't a flu shot a half assed stab in the dark to maybe lower the chancesMikeDamone said:
Yes. Flu shots are a vaccine. The flu is more serious than the measles especially in terms of death. The same rules apply as the other diseases in terms or babies, people with band immune systems etc. 80,000 Americans died of the flu last flu season. But yeah, lets blow that off and lose our shit over 6 people dying from the measles in the last 10 years.Pitchfork51 said:
Are we putting people who don't get flu shots in with anti vaxxers?MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
Ive never had one I don't think. I was under the impression they aren't all that great or necessary. Or maybe I just never cared because I haven't had the flu since like 8 years old.
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm gonna rush over and get one now.
Just kidding. Die in a fire!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
So while not fool proof it has been life saving for certain populations (little kids, the elderly, and those with weakened immune systems).
I got the flu shot for the first time in about three years and - got the flu! But since I got the weakened version of the virus I was only out for a weekend instead of one to two weeks. -
So the vaccine did no harm. Could have helped.Doog_de_Jour said:
The CDC says flu vaccines reduce your risk of getting the flu by 40-60%:MikeDamone said:
No. They aren’t half ass stabs in the dark. Like I said, people (like you) amuse me.Pitchfork51 said:
I thought vaccines were like legit cures. Isn't a flu shot a half assed stab in the dark to maybe lower the chancesMikeDamone said:
Yes. Flu shots are a vaccine. The flu is more serious than the measles especially in terms of death. The same rules apply as the other diseases in terms or babies, people with band immune systems etc. 80,000 Americans died of the flu last flu season. But yeah, lets blow that off and lose our shit over 6 people dying from the measles in the last 10 years.Pitchfork51 said:
Are we putting people who don't get flu shots in with anti vaxxers?MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
Ive never had one I don't think. I was under the impression they aren't all that great or necessary. Or maybe I just never cared because I haven't had the flu since like 8 years old.
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm gonna rush over and get one now.
Just kidding. Die in a fire!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
So while not fool proof it has been life saving for certain populations (little kids, the elderly, and those with weakened immune systems).
I got the flu shot for the first time in about three years and - got the flu! But since I got the weakened version of the virus I was only out for a weekend instead of one to two weeks.
Another one that amuses me is people who think they have the “flu” because the are puking and shitting. That’s not the flu. Lots of people like to think that. TWTLTT
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Pitchfork51 said:
I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Flu shots are vaccines. The point is the flu has a vaccine that varries in its effectiveness because the virus mutates every year. The shots are stil much better than nothing considering the seriousness of influenza. (80,000) deaths a year. Even if it’s not perfect, it extremely helpful. Yet people who say meh, to the flu shot lose their shit when people don’t get a measles shot. Which isn’t a killer in any significant way in the US.Pitchfork51 said:I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Trying to justify not getting a flu shot is also pseudo science. -
I had a low fever, fatigue, and muscle aches, that was about it. Again, grateful I got the shot because it could’ve been worse.MikeDamone said:
So the vaccine did no harm. Could have helped.Doog_de_Jour said:
The CDC says flu vaccines reduce your risk of getting the flu by 40-60%:MikeDamone said:
No. They aren’t half ass stabs in the dark. Like I said, people (like you) amuse me.Pitchfork51 said:
I thought vaccines were like legit cures. Isn't a flu shot a half assed stab in the dark to maybe lower the chancesMikeDamone said:
Yes. Flu shots are a vaccine. The flu is more serious than the measles especially in terms of death. The same rules apply as the other diseases in terms or babies, people with band immune systems etc. 80,000 Americans died of the flu last flu season. But yeah, lets blow that off and lose our shit over 6 people dying from the measles in the last 10 years.Pitchfork51 said:
Are we putting people who don't get flu shots in with anti vaxxers?MikeDamone said:I’m always amused by people who rail on about antivaxers but when you ask them if they get flu shots they spout a bunch af anecdotal shit and ignore the fact that the flu is far more deadly than most any of the others we are taking about.
I’m amused by that.
Ive never had one I don't think. I was under the impression they aren't all that great or necessary. Or maybe I just never cared because I haven't had the flu since like 8 years old.
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm gonna rush over and get one now.
Just kidding. Die in a fire!
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
So while not fool proof it has been life saving for certain populations (little kids, the elderly, and those with weakened immune systems).
I got the flu shot for the first time in about three years and - got the flu! But since I got the weakened version of the virus I was only out for a weekend instead of one to two weeks.
Another one that amuses me is people who think they have the “flu” because the are puking and shitting. That’s not the flu. Lots of people like to think that. TWTLTT -
Justifying a flu shot is as simple as "I didn't feel like it or have a compelling reason to make a pit stop at CVS"MikeDamone said:Pitchfork51 said:I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Flu shots are vaccines. The point is the flu has a vaccine that varries in its effectiveness because the virus mutates every year. The shots are stil much better than nothing considering the seriousness of influenza. (80,000) deaths a year. Even if it’s not perfect, it extremely helpful. Yet people who say meh, to the flu shot lose their shit when people don’t get a measles shot. Which isn’t a killer in any significant way in the US.Pitchfork51 said:I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Trying to justify not getting a flu shot is also pseudo science.
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Which is amusing when the person skipping the shot is on a high horse about a measles shot.Pitchfork51 said:
Justifying a flu shot is as simple as "I didn't feel like it or have a compelling reason to make a pit stop at CVS"MikeDamone said:Pitchfork51 said:I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Flu shots are vaccines. The point is the flu has a vaccine that varries in its effectiveness because the virus mutates every year. The shots are stil much better than nothing considering the seriousness of influenza. (80,000) deaths a year. Even if it’s not perfect, it extremely helpful. Yet people who say meh, to the flu shot lose their shit when people don’t get a measles shot. Which isn’t a killer in any significant way in the US.Pitchfork51 said:I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Trying to justify not getting a flu shot is also pseudo science. -
I've completely forgotten what we're talking aboutMikeDamone said:
Which is amusing when the person skipping the shot is on a high horse about a measles shot.Pitchfork51 said:
Justifying a flu shot is as simple as "I didn't feel like it or have a compelling reason to make a pit stop at CVS"MikeDamone said:Pitchfork51 said:I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Flu shots are vaccines. The point is the flu has a vaccine that varries in its effectiveness because the virus mutates every year. The shots are stil much better than nothing considering the seriousness of influenza. (80,000) deaths a year. Even if it’s not perfect, it extremely helpful. Yet people who say meh, to the flu shot lose their shit when people don’t get a measles shot. Which isn’t a killer in any significant way in the US.Pitchfork51 said:I just don't think you can compare flu shots to vaccines. Aren't vaccines mandatory to go to school or do anything?
One is totally optional and works somewhat, one is a necessary part of life that you have to do unless you go way out of your way to come up with some goofy psuedo science excuse.
Trying to justify not getting a flu shot is also pseudo science.
