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That makes me want to shoot myselfUW_Doog_Bot said:
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
Our university president isn't the same kind of anti-football egghead Gerbs was, is she? And Jen is about 1 milyun times better than that skanky ass whore Babs Hedges.
Hiring Pete wasn't really an egghead move - it was a hire a handful of blue chip schools would have made in a second.
I'm not freaking out yet. Almost though. -
That sounds personal.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
I don’t think Cauce is anti football either, and so far Cohen has done a decent job guiding the AD (marketing team excepted). Still, there’s a lot more work to do.dflea said:Our university president isn't the same kind of anti-football egghead Gerbs was, is she? And Jen is about 1 milyun times better than that skanky ass whore Babs Hedges.
Hiring Pete wasn't really an egghead move - it was a hire a handful of blue chip schools would have made in a second.
I'm not freaking out yet. Almost though. -
Why do you hate Special Education?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
link?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
Komo4 butfucker.DerekJohnson said:
link?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
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It iscreepycoug said:
That sounds personal.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
WBB is in the same boat as the marketing team.Doog_de_Jour said:
I don’t think Cauce is anti football either, and so far Cohen has done a decent job guiding the AD (marketing team excepted). Still, there’s a lot more work to do.dflea said:Our university president isn't the same kind of anti-football egghead Gerbs was, is she? And Jen is about 1 milyun times better than that skanky ass whore Babs Hedges.
Hiring Pete wasn't really an egghead move - it was a hire a handful of blue chip schools would have made in a second.
I'm not freaking out yet. Almost though.
Hop was a great hire, Wynn notsomuch -
Is he though? To say Shaw is better you have to a) only count big bowl games b) not count Pete's time at Boise.Baseman said:
To date, Shaw>Petersendawgs206 said:Petersen is David Shaw until proven otherwise. A stubborn, offensive-minded coach that runs his system to a fault. The difference is Shaw has won the big game (though his Rose Bowls were against Iowa and Wisconsin) and we haven't (Bama, Penn State, OSU).
Both teams will be in contention to win the North every year, but sometimes the results leave a lot to be desired.
Shaw benefitted from inheriting a good team and Andrew Luck, but he was able to beat Oregon when they were on top and get 2 Rose Bowl W's. Petersen benefitted from a shit conference and winning against teams we? should beat, but shitting the bed in the big games.
If you only look at the five years Pete has been at UW it's as close to an even match as you're going to find.
Shaws last 5 years at Stanford:
1 Conference title
1 1/2 Division titles
3 ranked finishes (3, 12, 19.5 for an average of 11.5)
1-0 in NY6 Bowls - beat Iowa
0 Playoff appearances
Conference record: 32-13 (71.1)
Conference title game record: 1-1
Head to head: 3-2
Petes first 5 years at UW:
2 Conference titles
2 Division titles
3 ranked finishes (4, 15.5, 13 for an average of 10.8)
0-3 in NY6 Bowls
1 Playoff appearance
Conference record: 30-15 (66.7)
Conference title game record: 2-0
Head to head: 2-3
And that's without giving Pete any credit for taking over a program from Sark. If you only look at the last 3 years since Pete has established himself at UW it skews pretty heavy to Pete: 2 conference championships to zero, 3 ranked finishes to 2, 1 top 5 finish to zero, 2 division titles to 1/2, 2-1 head to head, etc.
I think you can fairly say "to date Shaw = Pete". But anyone looking at the trend line is going to take Pete going forward.
It's a pretty safe bet that Pete is better. -
I said the winner this year is better and I stick to it. Petersen
He out Shawed Shaw
Need to win down there now -
AgreeRaceBannon said:I said the winner this year is better and I stick to it. Petersen
He out Shawed Shaw
Need to win down there now
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Hey prestigious ND didn’t take me, so I had to settle for UW. Hahah fudgepackUW_Doog_Bot said:
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
What is stopping you?backthepack said:
That makes me want to shoot myselfUW_Doog_Bot said:
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
You’re a dilligent fucktard! Congrats!WeakarmCobra said:
Hey prestigious ND didn’t take me, so I had to settle for UW. Hahah fudgepackUW_Doog_Bot said:
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
I forgot about our Lady DAWGS. Good point.ThoroughDawg said:
WBB is in the same boat as the marketing team.Doog_de_Jour said:
I don’t think Cauce is anti football either, and so far Cohen has done a decent job guiding the AD (marketing team excepted). Still, there’s a lot more work to do.dflea said:Our university president isn't the same kind of anti-football egghead Gerbs was, is she? And Jen is about 1 milyun times better than that skanky ass whore Babs Hedges.
Hiring Pete wasn't really an egghead move - it was a hire a handful of blue chip schools would have made in a second.
I'm not freaking out yet. Almost though.
Hop was a great hire, Wynn notsomuch -
People like @Doog_de_Jour forget that when Uncle Race was a young man in the early 20th century, #myrowboat was king and a bigger deal at UW that leather helmet football. And that that fucking ivory tower feeg, Suzallo, did try hard to fire Hiram Coninbear, the crew corch for being too powerful and not enough into academis.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
I knew rowboat was the marquee sport back in the day, but had no idea Suzallo tried to get the coach fired...YellowSnow said:
People like @Doog_de_Jour forget that when Uncle Race was a young man in the early 20th century, #myrowboat was king and a bigger deal at UW that leather helmet football. And that that fucking ivory tower feeg, Suzallo, did try hard to fire Hiram Coninbear, the crew corch for being too powerful and not enough into academis.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
...unlike Race, I wasn’t there. -
I think Mrs Snow and @Doog_de_Jour were talking about starting the Lady Dwags Basketball Bored.Doog_de_Jour said:
I forgot about our Lady DAWGS. Good point.ThoroughDawg said:
WBB is in the same boat as the marketing team.Doog_de_Jour said:
I don’t think Cauce is anti football either, and so far Cohen has done a decent job guiding the AD (marketing team excepted). Still, there’s a lot more work to do.dflea said:Our university president isn't the same kind of anti-football egghead Gerbs was, is she? And Jen is about 1 milyun times better than that skanky ass whore Babs Hedges.
Hiring Pete wasn't really an egghead move - it was a hire a handful of blue chip schools would have made in a second.
I'm not freaking out yet. Almost though.
Hop was a great hire, Wynn notsomuch -
We were. I encouraged her to join our little hobby board ‘cause 1) I get lonely being one of the few lady poasters 2) your lovely wife seems awesome and clearly knows her shit.YellowSnow said:
I think Mrs Snow and @Doog_de_Jour were talking about starting the Lady Dwags Basketball Bored.Doog_de_Jour said:
I forgot about our Lady DAWGS. Good point.ThoroughDawg said:
WBB is in the same boat as the marketing team.Doog_de_Jour said:
I don’t think Cauce is anti football either, and so far Cohen has done a decent job guiding the AD (marketing team excepted). Still, there’s a lot more work to do.dflea said:Our university president isn't the same kind of anti-football egghead Gerbs was, is she? And Jen is about 1 milyun times better than that skanky ass whore Babs Hedges.
Hiring Pete wasn't really an egghead move - it was a hire a handful of blue chip schools would have made in a second.
I'm not freaking out yet. Almost though.
Hop was a great hire, Wynn notsomuch
However, I stressed she should only do so with your blessing. Last thing I’d ever want to do is sow discord in the Snow household. -
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It was right after the end of the 1916 racing season that the simmering issues built up over the years between Conibear and the University came to a boil. There are conflicting accounts of what exactly transpired to send Hiram Conibear back east for a six month “leave of absence”. The Tyee suggests it was Conibear who volunteered to “go east to study methods used by the coaches of other crews” (1), however George Pocock paints a more likely scenario.Doog_de_Jour said:
I knew rowboat was the marquee sport back in the day, but had no idea Suzallo tried to get the coach fired...YellowSnow said:
People like @Doog_de_Jour forget that when Uncle Race was a young man in the early 20th century, #myrowboat was king and a bigger deal at UW that leather helmet football. And that that fucking ivory tower feeg, Suzallo, did try hard to fire Hiram Coninbear, the crew corch for being too powerful and not enough into academis.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
...unlike Race, I wasn’t there.
Henry Suzzallo had taken the reins of the University as president in 1915. His dedication to education went hand in hand with a perception that athletics were over-prioritized on campus and out of control. There was much speculation that Washington would send the crew to Poughkeepsie in 1916 – the student board even revoked the previous limitation made in 1914 – and businessmen were lining up to commit the necessary funding. Newspaper accounts in May, quite possibly planted by Conibear or his friends, had them on their way. Suddenly everything went quiet, the trip vaporized, and a couple of weeks later Conibear was gone. The efforts to revoke the 1914 agreement, or the aggressive campaign to go east may have put these two strong-willed men at loggerheads. Whatever the reason, according to Pocock, his popularity and personality led Suzzallo to fire him. Rusty Callow, at the end of his fifth year at the University and now ASUW President, reportedly then stepped in on behalf of Conibear and persuaded Suzzallo to back down. The compromise, according to Pocock, was that Conibear stop meddling in campus politics and take a six month leave (2). . -
Damn. I had no idea there was so much palace intrigue in crew.YellowSnow said:E
It was right after the end of the 1916 racing season that the simmering issues built up over the years between Conibear and the University came to a boil. There are conflicting accounts of what exactly transpired to send Hiram Conibear back east for a six month “leave of absence”. The Tyee suggests it was Conibear who volunteered to “go east to study methods used by the coaches of other crews” (1), however George Pocock paints a more likely scenario.Doog_de_Jour said:
I knew rowboat was the marquee sport back in the day, but had no idea Suzallo tried to get the coach fired...YellowSnow said:
People like @Doog_de_Jour forget that when Uncle Race was a young man in the early 20th century, #myrowboat was king and a bigger deal at UW that leather helmet football. And that that fucking ivory tower feeg, Suzallo, did try hard to fire Hiram Coninbear, the crew corch for being too powerful and not enough into academis.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
...unlike Race, I wasn’t there.
Henry Suzzallo had taken the reins of the University as president in 1915. His dedication to education went hand in hand with a perception that athletics were over-prioritized on campus and out of control. There was much speculation that Washington would send the crew to Poughkeepsie in 1916 – the student board even revoked the previous limitation made in 1914 – and businessmen were lining up to commit the necessary funding. Newspaper accounts in May, quite possibly planted by Conibear or his friends, had them on their way. Suddenly everything went quiet, the trip vaporized, and a couple of weeks later Conibear was gone. The efforts to revoke the 1914 agreement, or the aggressive campaign to go east may have put these two strong-willed men at loggerheads. Whatever the reason, according to Pocock, his popularity and personality led Suzzallo to fire him. Rusty Callow, at the end of his fifth year at the University and now ASUW President, reportedly then stepped in on behalf of Conibear and persuaded Suzzallo to back down. The compromise, according to Pocock, was that Conibear stop meddling in campus politics and take a six month leave (2). .
Thank you for the history lesson! -
Insert Eason, in place of browning, and UW wins rose bowl. But you've never understood football much Race. Stick to graphic artistry..clearly your wheelhouse.RaceBannon said:and thought it was just one week ago today that I got up all excited to go watch the worst Husky Rose Bowl performance of my lifetime.
Then I thought about what I watched last night
Then I decided to pick some message bored fights on coaching, recruiting, and how do we find a way to beat Cal.
If we don't at least get as excited about branding and recruiting as Oregon does and we don't, how are we going to Dabo our way to the top? We have as good of a DC as Venables. I really believe this. But we're miles to go on offense both in coaching and players. I'll settle for a REAL O line for now.
The biggest disappointment in the 5 years so far is the inability to steal even one win or to show up ready to play every week or to have some sort of competent special teams
I do know it can change and we are recruiting better but it doesn't matter what we? think it matters what Petermen's bosses think
If you have a coach that can beat better teams before we are even in players you have an elite coach. Pete is a conundrum. I just hope he isn't Kirk Ferentz
That's how dark my mood is
The rest of you? Whatever your occupation, stick to that too. UW might have had 1 loss with Eason at QB, maybe. -
And yet Oregon is going to win the Pac this yearpuppylove_sugarsteel said:
Insert Eason, in place of browning, and UW wins rose bowl. But you've never understood football much Race. Stick to graphic artistry..clearly your wheelhouse.RaceBannon said:and thought it was just one week ago today that I got up all excited to go watch the worst Husky Rose Bowl performance of my lifetime.
Then I thought about what I watched last night
Then I decided to pick some message bored fights on coaching, recruiting, and how do we find a way to beat Cal.
If we don't at least get as excited about branding and recruiting as Oregon does and we don't, how are we going to Dabo our way to the top? We have as good of a DC as Venables. I really believe this. But we're miles to go on offense both in coaching and players. I'll settle for a REAL O line for now.
The biggest disappointment in the 5 years so far is the inability to steal even one win or to show up ready to play every week or to have some sort of competent special teams
I do know it can change and we are recruiting better but it doesn't matter what we? think it matters what Petermen's bosses think
If you have a coach that can beat better teams before we are even in players you have an elite coach. Pete is a conundrum. I just hope he isn't Kirk Ferentz
That's how dark my mood is
The rest of you? Whatever your occupation, stick to that too. UW might have had 1 loss with Eason at QB, maybe.
Shut the fuck up -
Off-season is in'full swing.
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Lots of hawt row boat and Miamuh talk in one thread. Not bad. Not bad at all.creepycoug said:Off-season is in'full swing.
