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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    backthepack said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    bigcc said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    Houhusky said:

    Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent

    UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
    .

    Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.

    Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
    How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?
    @MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.

    I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.

    So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.

    What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
    UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or school

    That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president

    This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC

    I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns

    UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting

    Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12

    Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
    Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.
    That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.
    Fuck UW admissions
    Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.
    That makes me want to shoot myself
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,282
    backthepack said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    bigcc said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    Houhusky said:

    Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent

    UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
    .

    Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.

    Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
    How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?
    @MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.

    I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.

    So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.

    What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
    UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or school

    That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president

    This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC

    I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns

    UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting

    Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12

    Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
    Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.
    That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.
    Fuck UW admissions
    That sounds personal.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    backthepack said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    bigcc said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    Houhusky said:

    Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent

    UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
    .

    Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.

    Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
    How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?
    @MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.

    I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.

    So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.

    What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
    UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or school

    That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president

    This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC

    I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns

    UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting

    Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12

    Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
    Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.
    That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.
    Fuck UW admissions
    Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.
    Why do you hate Special Education?
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,774 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    backthepack said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    bigcc said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    Houhusky said:

    Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent

    UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
    .

    Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.

    Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
    How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?
    @MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.

    I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.

    So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.

    What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
    UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or school

    That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president

    This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC

    I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns

    UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting

    Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12

    Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
    Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.
    That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.
    Fuck UW admissions
    Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.
    link?
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,551 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    backthepack said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    bigcc said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    Houhusky said:

    Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent

    UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
    .

    Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.

    Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
    How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?
    @MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.

    I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.

    So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.

    What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
    UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or school

    That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president

    This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC

    I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns

    UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting

    Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12

    Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
    Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.
    That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.
    Fuck UW admissions
    Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.
    link?
    Komo4 butfucker.
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
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    creepycoug said:

    backthepack said:

    Doog_de_Jour said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    bigcc said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    Houhusky said:

    Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent

    UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
    .

    Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.

    Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
    How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?
    @MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.

    I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.

    So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.

    What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
    UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or school

    That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president

    This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC

    I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns

    UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting

    Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12

    Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
    Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.
    That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.
    Fuck UW admissions
    That sounds personal.
    It is
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  • ThoroughDawg
    ThoroughDawg Member Posts: 186
    Doog_de_Jour said:

    dflea said:

    Our university president isn't the same kind of anti-football egghead Gerbs was, is she? And Jen is about 1 milyun times better than that skanky ass whore Babs Hedges.

    Hiring Pete wasn't really an egghead move - it was a hire a handful of blue chip schools would have made in a second.

    I'm not freaking out yet. Almost though.

    I don’t think Cauce is anti football either, and so far Cohen has done a decent job guiding the AD (marketing team excepted). Still, there’s a lot more work to do.
    WBB is in the same boat as the marketing team.

    Hop was a great hire, Wynn notsomuch
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