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I can remember when Oregon State owned that stat.RaceBannon said: -
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
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Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
The problem I have with this is that there is no better public university than Michigan, and they've always seemed to be ok with their rep as a football powerhouse. Cal just DGAF, but if they could stumble into being good, I wonder whether the admins would try and blow it up. It's not like a good football program is going to suddenly unwind all of the amazing research and shit that has happened at Berkeley. That part of their rep. is permanent. They fucking invented chemistry on that campus. Even a dodo like Lynch driving around on his cart won't change that.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
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Nerds on the west coast hate athletes and are jealous of them. Midwest people generally embrace physical achievement a bit more.creepycoug said:
The problem I have with this is that there is no better public university than Michigan, and they've always seemed to be ok with their rep as a football powerhouse. Cal just DGAF, but if they could stumble into being good, I wonder whether the admins would try and blow it up. It's not like a good football program is going to suddenly unwind all of the amazing research and shit that has happened at Berkeley. That part of their rep. is permanent. They fucking invented chemistry on that campus. Even a dodo like Lynch driving around on his cart won't change that.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
Simple fact.
Case closed. -
Like a West Coast Bias?Pitchfork51 said:
Nerds on the west coast hate athletes and are jealous of them. Midwest people generally embrace physical achievement a bit more.creepycoug said:
The problem I have with this is that there is no better public university than Michigan, and they've always seemed to be ok with their rep as a football powerhouse. Cal just DGAF, but if they could stumble into being good, I wonder whether the admins would try and blow it up. It's not like a good football program is going to suddenly unwind all of the amazing research and shit that has happened at Berkeley. That part of their rep. is permanent. They fucking invented chemistry on that campus. Even a dodo like Lynch driving around on his cart won't change that.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
Simple fact.
Case closed. -
Deep dive and Michigan is the UW of the midwestcreepycoug said:
The problem I have with this is that there is no better public university than Michigan, and they've always seemed to be ok with their rep as a football powerhouse. Cal just DGAF, but if they could stumble into being good, I wonder whether the admins would try and blow it up. It's not like a good football program is going to suddenly unwind all of the amazing research and shit that has happened at Berkeley. That part of their rep. is permanent. They fucking invented chemistry on that campus. Even a dodo like Lynch driving around on his cart won't change that.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
They aren't a powerhouse
Ohio State is -
Race was there.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them. -
Just think about the fact that even @WeakarmCobra managed to get in.backthepack said:
Fuck UW admissionsDoog_de_Jour said:
That’s one of the things I’ve never understood about UW...they seem hell bent on being thought of first and foremost as an academic powerhouse and sneer at athletics (with the exception of @YellowSnow’s beloved rowboat...but that’s only because it gets us hobnobbing with the Ivies). Guess what kids, we aren’t going to be thought of in the same breath as Stanford, etc. so embrace sportsball a little bit more. Lots of schools have shown you can have ABUNDANCE by having strong football/basketball programs *and* research/academic programs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Never forget that Suzzallo got rid of Gil Dobie(who went on to win multiple championships for another school) for the same reasons uppercampus got rid of James. We might be BAMA! if it wasn't for uppercampus never being okay with their brand being sullied by the likes of football.RaceBannon said:
UW has always been embarrassed by the thought of being a football factory or schoolcreepycoug said:
@MikeDamone addressed this the other day: there is no "war" to fight with campus progressives. All teams in the Pac 12 not named Stanford are recruiting the same kids, even Cal. Other than that weird PE thing that Washington has (which as I recall is an issue with JC xfers), we? access the same kids regardless of academis. They have to meet minimums.bigcc said:
How exactly is Petersen battling campus progressives?CaptainPJ said:
Lou Holtz was brilliant at ND in this perspective.Houhusky said:Elite coaches should be able to get atleast one upset/surprise/big win in 5 years, even if they luck into it. even with slightly deficient talent
UW will never have the institutional culture, structure or support that the schools in the South have created. NEVER.
.
Second point, is almost a non-starter. The loser mentality of Seattle will always lower the ceiling, especially with the “progressives” on campus, which is an additional battle any UW Coach has to battle, while others are spending their energy reloading.
I heard a UW assistant coach or player giving an interview where he was trying to make it sound like Washington had the same handicap that Stanford deals with. They do not.
So if USC, which as a school is harder to get into than Washington, can pull in the talent necessary to win big, then there is no institutional barrier preventing from Washington doing so. They? just need to close the deal.
What other support do you mean? Washington has never had more money than it does today, it has a new and beautiful stadium, it's in a city that is much more well known than it has been historically, it has good enuff facilities ... what are we talking about here? If you mean we? don't have alumni lurking around paying D tackle recruits $100k to sign, well, sure, that's true, and Bama does. I don't know what to tell you about that.
That lays on the head of the coach. Its why Petersen got hired. They still go with the we win the right way bullshit. James was a threat to the president
This is NOT unique to UW but is different from say the SEC
I contend that the recent misfortune at Oregon is for the same reason. Getting secret probation for Chip buying players caused the Admin to pull back the reigns
UW has been behind Oregon since the 90's in marketing, facilities and recruiting
Pretty good is good enough. ND fired Ty after three years, UW gave him 4 to get Owen12
Bottom line and thanks for hopping on is that UW can't buy players without the risk of their own dropping a dime on them.
