Pete’s Don James moment

Plenty has been said on here about James realizing he had to get with the times. It may be earlier in his Husky career, but this is Pete’s. Browning was recruited to run his old bullshit offense. That time is over and if we dont totally overhaul the offense this offseason the program is over.

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LaMichael_Corleone

You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.

Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.

But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
How could you possibly know he is good? If you want to say LIPO for one year of another QB w/e... but good?

The QB play is fucking garbage
The WR play and recruiting is fucking garbage
The OL play is just ok
The RB play has been carried by Gaskin and no one looks ready to step up and recruiting has been mediocre
The TEs have been underutilized almost every game, lol recruiting
Gameday play calling and management has been poor
Development at basically every position on offense except for the OL has been poor

If this was the best scheme they could develop to work around Browning then they are fucking garbage at schemes and utilizing what they have
If this was the best development they could do with 4 years of browning then they fucking suck at developing what they have

They had 4 years to teach browning the scheme, change the scheme to fit browning, or find someone who could actually play the scheme... It didnt happen.

It blows my mind that people are using the fact that the coaches CHOSE to start browning for 4 years as an excuse for them not actually sucking.

Next people are going to excuse Sark for being a shitty coach because its not his fault he caught the alcoholism and showed up drunk to work.

Fair on the LIPO, but I think you need some time to review the whole season and not just a very frustrating game especially offensively before evaluating like this.

The only recruiting that matters is for Bush are the recruits he brings in not RB/OL/TE. Bush brought in Osborne, Spiker, and Ty. If you ask me that’s a lot better than Aaron, Andre, and Chin. Do we still need to get a level higher? Yes but we’ve basically asked Bush to take over WR recruiting this year.

But in all fairness it sounds like your gripe is more with Pete and you are very right to feel that way. He has the veto power and he’s the last voice in command on the head set. It’s his call to run out the half or not. It’s his call to play browning and all that. This is Bush’s first year with a shitty QB and some shitty WR’s and a hurt TE and a hurt LT with two new starters at guard. He can’t be the brunt of the blame just because he got Hunter and Myles involved too late which I understand is incredibly tough trust me everyone I was sitting next to thought I was a crazy person who secretly hated the coaches and everyone on our offense.

WE ARE NEVER GOING TO RUN A CHIP KELLY OR AIR RAID TYPE OFFENSE THAT RUNS AS MANY PLAYS AS POSSIBLE AND PETE WILL NEVER GIVE UP THE REIGNS ON WHAT HE LIKES TO DO OFFENSIVELY SO LETS SEE WHAT THIS SHIT LOOKS LIKE WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE PLAYERS AT EVERY TWO DEEP SPOT AND THEN CAN HIS ASS WHEN HE CANT WIN.

sarktastic

So, just wait till we get Alabama talent and Hope they all want to play in crunch time when called on?

creepycoug

Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.

http://twitter.com/A_Jude/status/1080296861209001984

That's better than what Richt said, which was essentially, "We've got the right plan, we just need to do it better."

Word is that the AD met with him and told him he had to fire his son and think about other offensive staff positions. He said, "I quit."

Say what you will about the Diaz hire, he had a vision for the defense and he made it happen. He also fired the entire offensive staff - every. last. one. - including Richt's son, w/in 24 hours of being hired.

But, that's the easy part for coaches who want to get better.

creepycoug

Here is how Maryland hung 50 on Ohio State throwing 13 passes

Holy shit. I didn't realize that someone almost ran for 3 hundy against the Bucks. And two other guys averaged 5.0 ypc or better.

Was the OSU first unit D suspended for that game? Fucking Maryland?

RaceBannon

Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.

http://twitter.com/A_Jude/status/1080296861209001984
That's better than what Richt said, which was essentially, "We've got the right plan, we just need to do it better."

Word is that the AD met with him and told him he had to fire his son and think about other offensive staff positions. He said, "I quit."

Say what you will about the Diaz hire, he had a vision for the defense and he made it happen. He also fired the entire offensive staff - every. last. one. - including Richt's son, w/in 24 hours of being hired.

But, that's the easy part for coaches who want to get better.

Counter argument is that if Richt needed to fire his staff he should have been fired anyway

7-6 is what we had when we got Pete. There's a jump to 10 wins then a bigger jump to 12-15

Richt could manage to have a losing record in a season at Georgia.

creepycoug

You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.

Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.

But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
This is what I see. Teams can play to stop #MMFG and that's basically it. Nothing else needed to do from a DC's point of view. No deep ball, no ability to get screens out quick enough to open up the middle or attack the perimeter. Plus, we have an awful kicking game so teams can really play bend-don't-break and play to stop us in the red zone with little consequence. Stop Myles from getting to the second level and you'll basically keep our offense from scoring more than 21 points.

This.

Will be very chintresting to see what happens to the running game next year. I'm confident in saying, there is no Myles Gaskin on the Washington roster right now. He made everyone look good. Dude makes getting something out of nothing look routine.

WilburHooksHands

You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.

Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.

But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
This is what I see. Teams can play to stop #MMFG and that's basically it. Nothing else needed to do from a DC's point of view. No deep ball, no ability to get screens out quick enough to open up the middle or attack the perimeter. Plus, we have an awful kicking game so teams can really play bend-don't-break and play to stop us in the red zone with little consequence. Stop Myles from getting to the second level and you'll basically keep our offense from scoring more than 21 points.
This.

Will be very chintresting to see what happens to the running game next year. I'm confident in saying, there is no Myles Gaskin on the Washington roster right now. He made everyone look good. Dude makes getting something out of nothing look routine.

Vertical passing game has to be a thing, it’s the only way.

HillsboroDuck

You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.

Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.

But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.

There's plenty of room on the Bush Hamden bandwagon.

It's basically just you and me.

Welcome aboard.

creepycoug

Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.

http://twitter.com/A_Jude/status/1080296861209001984
That's better than what Richt said, which was essentially, "We've got the right plan, we just need to do it better."

Word is that the AD met with him and told him he had to fire his son and think about other offensive staff positions. He said, "I quit."

Say what you will about the Diaz hire, he had a vision for the defense and he made it happen. He also fired the entire offensive staff - every. last. one. - including Richt's son, w/in 24 hours of being hired.

But, that's the easy part for coaches who want to get better.
Counter argument is that if Richt needed to fire his staff he should have been fired anyway

7-6 is what we had when we got Pete. There's a jump to 10 wins then a bigger jump to 12-15

Richt could manage to have a losing record in a season at Georgia.

Agreed. In retrospect he was a good enough coach to put together decent seasons, no more, and occasionally do better than that. 10-2 made all of Cane nation bite. And as you know, I'm a sucker for a good recruiter, because you have to have that anyway.

But some guys just can't put it together, and in Richt's case, he seemed to have effectively retired to Miami when he took the job. Which explains why he punked out when it got hard. He didn't come to Miami for hard. He came to Miami to retire.

Which is why I'm leary of old guys at the HC spot. It's not a fun job. You need to be hungry. He was not. I'm skeptical about whether Davis part II would be hungry enough. He's old now too.

ApostleofGrief

Plenty has been said on here about James realizing he had to get with the times. It may be earlier in his Husky career, but this is Pete’s. Browning was recruited to run his old bullshit offense. That time is over and if we dont totally overhaul the offense this offseason the program is over.

This is the legendary DON JAMES ANALOGY. I've lobbied for this to stop! He is a statue, and not coming back in the form of somebody else! Jesus. Every coach except Neuheisel and Sark was supposed to be in the mold of DJ.

topdawgnc

Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.

http://twitter.com/A_Jude/status/1080296861209001984
That's better than what Richt said, which was essentially, "We've got the right plan, we just need to do it better."

Word is that the AD met with him and told him he had to fire his son and think about other offensive staff positions. He said, "I quit."

Say what you will about the Diaz hire, he had a vision for the defense and he made it happen. He also fired the entire offensive staff - every. last. one. - including Richt's son, w/in 24 hours of being hired.

But, that's the easy part for coaches who want to get better.
Counter argument is that if Richt needed to fire his staff he should have been fired anyway

7-6 is what we had when we got Pete. There's a jump to 10 wins then a bigger jump to 12-15

Richt could manage to have a losing record in a season at Georgia.
Agreed. In retrospect he was a good enough coach to put together decent seasons, no more, and occasionally do better than that. 10-2 made all of Cane nation bite. And as you know, I'm a sucker for a good recruiter, because you have to have that anyway.

But some guys just can't put it together, and in Richt's case, he seemed to have effectively retired to Miami when he took the job. Which explains why he punked out when it got hard. He didn't come to Miami for hard. He came to Miami to retire.

Which is why I'm leary of old guys at the HC spot. It's not a fun job. You need to be hungry. He was not. I'm skeptical about whether Davis part II would be hungry enough. He's old now too.

I work with a lot of UGA alum.

It was always fun to listen to them support Richt.

He was the college version of Marty Schottenheimer. Good enough to give you hope, good enough to get right to the door ... but he couldn't kick it in.

He ran the script perfectly last year.

FireCohen

Here is how Maryland hung 50 on Ohio State throwing 13 passes

Fuck, race you da man!!!

AEB

What I can’t tell is how many of the RPO’s called did Browning chose to throw vs run on his own? In the first series of the RB for example, we run off tackle for 6, then swing it to the flat on the second play and got stoned. Throughout the year, Pete seemed pissed about the decision making on the RPOs. Begs the question if they were frustrated, why didn’t they call fewer RPOs? IDK

PurpleBaze

Fuck Pete's execution bullshit. I hope he's looking in the mirror, because the coaching staff needs to execute better.

First offensive series: Toss sweep to Gaskin for a 6-yard gain, followed by two shit pass plays, and a punt. That's on you and Hamdan... & continuing to rely on a very limited signal-caller.

Fuck you and the "we need to execute better" bullshit, Pete.

FireCohen

So Alabama game was not Pete’s Don James moment? How many moments does he need

PurpleBaze

So Alabama game was not Pete’s Don James moment? How many moments does he need

It takes a minute.

It's hard.

It's a process.

HillsboroDuck

Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).

Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.

DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.

Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.

Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.

We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.

The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.

We'll see.

ZoneUW

Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.

http://twitter.com/A_Jude/status/1080296861209001984

Coach speak. "I have a five point plan" yadda yadda yadda

FireCohen

Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).

Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.

DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.

Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.

Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.

We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.

The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.

We'll see.

He not charging his offense though

HillsboroDuck

Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).

Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.

DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.

Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.

Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.

We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.

The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.

We'll see.
He not charging his offense though

No coach is perfect. My contention is that Pete with a real QB and a pass rush is good enough to beat anybody, even with this offense.

We'll see.