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Where Exactly Are We Headed: A Response
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dude, pete is making adjustments just slowly. I would judge him over the next 2 years. If things dont go well, we are fucked.Houhusky said:
He has yet to beat a team that he wasnt supposed to yet... It should be concerning to peopleWeakarmCobra said:
dont go fucking full retard now buddy, pete will win just not this year.Houhusky said:
Pete system does not allow for him to beat an elite talent team with good/decent coaching.PurpleJ said:Recruiting won't change the fact that Pete is too retarded to run the fucking ball.
UW/Pete has to be able to beat teams that have better “talent” or this is the cap... UW is never going to have more 4 and 5 stars than Clemson, Alabama, Ohio state, UT, Georgia, USC, tamu, Michigan, Norte dame, penn state, or 5-10 other schools with any sort of regularity.
The system is decent at winning games he is supposed to and good at not getting blown out in a loss to teams he is supposed to lose too.
Big games, important games, are won by players transcending the scheme and coaching and putting everyone on their back and dragging the team to victory...
Pete’s culture and scheme is so strict and ridged there is an upward cap that prevents players transcending the game, he can’t win the games he isn’t supposed to win like he could at Boise.
Yah yah, recruiting is important, just wait till 2021! Then the offense will work!
Does he have a single win against a team that had more talent and was decently coached? a ranked Stanford team is like his best win in 5 years? -
Not fucked but he should retire. Let Jimmy take over and hire a real OC.WeakarmCobra said:
dude, pete is making adjustments just slowly. I would judge him over the next 2 years. If things dont go well, we are fucked.Houhusky said:
He has yet to beat a team that he wasnt supposed to yet... It should be concerning to peopleWeakarmCobra said:
dont go fucking full retard now buddy, pete will win just not this year.Houhusky said:
Pete system does not allow for him to beat an elite talent team with good/decent coaching.PurpleJ said:Recruiting won't change the fact that Pete is too retarded to run the fucking ball.
UW/Pete has to be able to beat teams that have better “talent” or this is the cap... UW is never going to have more 4 and 5 stars than Clemson, Alabama, Ohio state, UT, Georgia, USC, tamu, Michigan, Norte dame, penn state, or 5-10 other schools with any sort of regularity.
The system is decent at winning games he is supposed to and good at not getting blown out in a loss to teams he is supposed to lose too.
Big games, important games, are won by players transcending the scheme and coaching and putting everyone on their back and dragging the team to victory...
Pete’s culture and scheme is so strict and ridged there is an upward cap that prevents players transcending the game, he can’t win the games he isn’t supposed to win like he could at Boise.
Yah yah, recruiting is important, just wait till 2021! Then the offense will work!
Does he have a single win against a team that had more talent and was decently coached? a ranked Stanford team is like his best win in 5 years?
Lake>Nussmeier>Gilby -
Two things keeping us from even looking elite.
1. Defense that punishes people, we need LBs and edge rush that are killers
2. A QB who can scare the opposition, not a QB who looks like he’d need help loading groceries in his car.
We’re a better team than we look, but we’ve exhausted our potential at this “level” I think our skill position deficit is going to start really hurting next year unless we fix it with fast. -
Tryon flashed. Felt good about that.LoneStarDawg said:Two things keeping us from even looking elite.
1. Defense that punishes people, we need LBs and edge rush that are killers
2. A QB who can scare the opposition, not a QB who looks like he’d need help loading groceries in his car.
We’re a better team than we look, but we’ve exhausted our potential at this “level” I think our skill position deficit is going to start really hurting next year unless we fix it with fast. -
You're right. There is essentially no difference between 15 Blue Chips on a roster UW had in 2015 and the over 40 that UW will have in 2019. Or continuing to replace 5 different less talented guys with better talent each year.ZoneUW said:Recruiting will never "close the gap" because there isn't the same talent on the west coast that there is in the south east. I mean it's simple as that. It will never happen. We can't even keep Joe Ngata from Clemson.
It's not like there are 44 players in the two deeps between offense and defense, or that stacking those two deeps with more overall talent will matter in the long run. -
This. Many people have mentioned this. I'd say the one time he beat a team he shouldn't have was 2015 USC, but Sark was probably literally wasted during the game. He got canned within a week or two of that game.Houhusky said:
He has yet to beat a team that he wasnt supposed to yet... It should be concerning to peopleWeakarmCobra said:
dont go fucking full retard now buddy, pete will win just not this year.Houhusky said:
Pete system does not allow for him to beat an elite talent team with good/decent coaching.PurpleJ said:Recruiting won't change the fact that Pete is too retarded to run the fucking ball.
UW/Pete has to be able to beat teams that have better “talent” or this is the cap... UW is never going to have more 4 and 5 stars than Clemson, Alabama, Ohio state, UT, Georgia, USC, tamu, Michigan, Norte dame, penn state, or 5-10 other schools with any sort of regularity.
The system is decent at winning games he is supposed to and good at not getting blown out in a loss to teams he is supposed to lose too.
Big games, important games, are won by players transcending the scheme and coaching and putting everyone on their back and dragging the team to victory...
Pete’s culture and scheme is so strict and ridged there is an upward cap that prevents players transcending the game, he can’t win the games he isn’t supposed to win like he could at Boise.
Yah yah, recruiting is important, just wait till 2021! Then the offense will work!
Does he have a single win against a team that had more talent and was decently coached? a ranked Stanford team is like his best win in 5 years?
His good wins were 2016 Stanford, 2016 Colorado, I'll throw in 2015 SC, Utah 2-4 times...and I'll give him 2018 WSU too. They are a legit top 12 team or so. You need to be able to beat a mediocre SEC team, even if it's a de facto road game. That's not expecting a lot. Let's be real here. -
Good analysis @DoogCourics
I'd say just based on my limited knowledge that at the least, the 16 needs to turn into a 7 or 8 to really get to the playoff contender/legititmate top 5 elite status. Maybe 10 but no lower. Oregon under Kelly was around 10-12 in that metric IIRC. I'm way too lazy to research it.
So can that be done with the recruiting church boy strategy? You almost need some assholes who steal cars or prima donnas -
You asked a question so I gave an answer.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Good analysis @DoogCourics
I'd say just based on my limited knowledge that at the least, the 16 needs to turn into a 7 or 8 to really get to the playoff contender/legititmate top 5 elite status. Maybe 10 but no lower. Oregon under Kelly was around 10-12 in that metric IIRC. I'm way too lazy to research it.
So can that be done with the recruiting church boy strategy? You almost need some assholes who steal cars or prima donnas
I’m going to bed, but I’ll run the numbers for Dabo tomorrow.
He broke through and got to the championship in his 7th year, 8th for the actual win.
So I’ll do the increase in blue chips for them over those 8 years to get a trajectory as a comparison.
Edit: preliminary glance shows Clemson was in the 20’s and 30’s first few years, then hovered around 15/16 for a bit.
Wasn’t until 2015, the end of his 6th year for those who bitch about Pete being in his 5th, that he actually broke through with a top 10 class and started getting consistent high end classes. -
Guys, I've been telling ya'll... Sark is available...GOAT said:Demote Hamdan back to WR’s, fire Lubick, and get a proven OC
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LOTS of dooging going on.
As of now, we have no evidence to suggest our new recruits are going to turn out any better than the players we have now. No evidence to suggest Buelow is anything more than Devin Burleson 2.0. Nothing to suggest that fautano and luciano aren't anything other than bigger versions of Nick Harris. Nothing to suggest Bandes is any better than gaines or paama will ever be anything close to vea. We have no evidence Taj Davis is going to be better than jordan chin, or that Tuitele will be any better than Onwuzurike. Right now we have no evidence to suggest Laiatu Latu is gonna be anything more than benning 2.0 or wooching 2.0.
We aren't recruiting like we need to be to close that talent gap, at least we have no proof we are right now until we see the players get developed and play. Fuck the offseason natty. Reserve that for oregon. When the coach starts winning, THAT is when I will buy into the hype. Fuck the teen boy rosterbation about players who haven't even played a single snap in the fucking SPRING GAME.
I care about winning NOW with what we have, fuck the stars, myles gaskin was rated below SEAN FUCKING MCGREW.
As from what I can tell now, Petersen is a fucking LOSER, doesn't win the big games, and I shouldn't expect anything different until proven otherwise. If you disagree you are a DOOG.
