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Who Develops Talent Best in the Pac-12?

Dennis_DeYoung
Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
in The Fisching Hole (Recruiting)




Black eye for USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon, IMO.

Feel free to retweet this if you want good players in our class.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Who gets most wins out of their stars?
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  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    good chit, but some recruits and their families will always take the coffee cup in the hand versus two in the bush...some dads won't fly; just won't....some recruits will always want to be closer to home (Bama) and some recruits will always enjoy recruiting more than getting developed.

    another way of saying i don't think we really have much more upside than we're hitting now.

    just my opinion; don't twist.
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  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    You should do a HH graph showing the expected fucktardness of HH denizens relative to their length of stay here ... just for fun.
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Dennis_DeYoung said:





    Black eye for USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon, IMO.

    Feel free to retweet this if you want good players in our class.
    What is the methodology for "expected # of all P12 players"? Hope it isn't as simple as # of 4/5 star recruits but I can't figure out how you give any value to 2/3*s and OSU still ends up at just 1 expected all conference player over 3 years.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,089 Founders Club
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    FremontTroll said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:





    Black eye for USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon, IMO.

    Feel free to retweet this if you want good players in our class.
    What is the methodology for "expected # of all P12 players"? Hope it isn't as simple as # of 4/5 star recruits but I can't figure out how you give any value to 2/3*s and OSU still ends up at just 1 expected all conference player over 3 years.
    Go fuck yourself.

    To even ask this fucking dumb of a question means you either think I'm a retard or you're a retard. In either case, fuck off.

    But if you must know...

    --so, first just M and SD for all AC players per team; M roughly 6, SD roughly 5.
    --then z score for average recruit during the relevant period (using the 1-100 composite scale because FUCKING OBVIOUSLY THE STAR SCALE DOESN'T WORK YOU FUCKING IDIOT)

    Then...

    EV = MEAN(AC) + z-score(REC)*SD(AC)

    Like a fucking expected value calculation.

    How the fuck did you think I was doing it?

    I hope some day one of you morons posts something interesting. Until then fuck off.


    Straightforward and awesome. Retweeted from my "positive" account. It seems to have gotten some attention. Great job DDY.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    FremontTroll said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:





    Black eye for USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon, IMO.

    Feel free to retweet this if you want good players in our class.
    What is the methodology for "expected # of all P12 players"? Hope it isn't as simple as # of 4/5 star recruits but I can't figure out how you give any value to 2/3*s and OSU still ends up at just 1 expected all conference player over 3 years.
    Go fuck yourself.

    To even ask this fucking dumb of a question means you either think I'm a retard or you're a retard. In either case, fuck off.

    But if you must know...

    --so, first just M and SD for all AC players per team; M roughly 6, SD roughly 5.
    --then z score for average recruit during the relevant period (using the 1-100 composite scale because FUCKING OBVIOUSLY THE STAR SCALE DOESN'T WORK YOU FUCKING IDIOT)

    Then...

    EV = MEAN(AC) + z-score(REC)*SD(AC)

    Like a fucking expected value calculation.

    How the fuck did you think I was doing it?

    I hope some day one of you morons posts something interesting. Until then fuck off.


    Straightforward and awesome. Retweeted from my "positive" account. It seems to have gotten some attention. Great job DDY.
    OH SHIT I JUST PASSED MY JUNIOR YEAR STATS CLASS!!!! WOOOOO!!!!
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,089 Founders Club
    How many standard
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    FremontTroll said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:





    Black eye for USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon, IMO.

    Feel free to retweet this if you want good players in our class.
    What is the methodology for "expected # of all P12 players"? Hope it isn't as simple as # of 4/5 star recruits but I can't figure out how you give any value to 2/3*s and OSU still ends up at just 1 expected all conference player over 3 years.
    Go fuck yourself.

    To even ask this fucking dumb of a question means you either think I'm a retard or you're a retard. In either case, fuck off.

    But if you must know...

    --so, first just M and SD for all AC players per team; M roughly 6, SD roughly 5.
    --then z score for average recruit during the relevant period (using the 1-100 composite scale because FUCKING OBVIOUSLY THE STAR SCALE DOESN'T WORK YOU FUCKING IDIOT)

    Then...

    EV = MEAN(AC) + z-score(REC)*SD(AC)

    Like a fucking expected value calculation.

    How the fuck did you think I was doing it?

    I hope some day one of you morons posts something interesting. Until then fuck off.


    Straightforward and awesome. Retweeted from my "positive" account. It seems to have gotten some attention. Great job DDY.
    OH SHIT I JUST PASSED MY JUNIOR YEAR STATS CLASS!!!! WOOOOO!!!!
    That's actually part of what I love about it. I work with a lot of engineers that can't manage the principal of KISS to save their lives.

    It also leaves a lot less room for people wishing to criticize your methodology. "But, but, but, [fill in cognitive bias]"
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    FremontTroll said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:





    Black eye for USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon, IMO.

    Feel free to retweet this if you want good players in our class.
    What is the methodology for "expected # of all P12 players"? Hope it isn't as simple as # of 4/5 star recruits but I can't figure out how you give any value to 2/3*s and OSU still ends up at just 1 expected all conference player over 3 years.
    Go fuck yourself.

    To even ask this fucking dumb of a question means you either think I'm a retard or you're a retard. In either case, fuck off.

    But if you must know...

    --so, first just M and SD for all AC players per team; M roughly 6, SD roughly 5.
    --then z score for average recruit during the relevant period (using the 1-100 composite scale because FUCKING OBVIOUSLY THE STAR SCALE DOESN'T WORK YOU FUCKING IDIOT)

    Then...

    EV = MEAN(AC) + z-score(REC)*SD(AC)

    Like a fucking expected value calculation.

    How the fuck did you think I was doing it?

    I hope some day one of you morons posts something interesting. Until then fuck off.
    It’s hard!
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Who gets most wins out of their stars?

    WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE AND FIND OUT?!!?

    Jesus fuck.

    I should ban anyone who - when someone posts something of substance - an idiot immediately asks him to do something else when they, themselves, have contributed nothing.
    Sounds dangerously close to a Rule 1 violation against Faggot Hollowmen.
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    FremontTroll said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:





    Black eye for USC, UCLA, Stanford and Oregon, IMO.

    Feel free to retweet this if you want good players in our class.
    What is the methodology for "expected # of all P12 players"? Hope it isn't as simple as # of 4/5 star recruits but I can't figure out how you give any value to 2/3*s and OSU still ends up at just 1 expected all conference player over 3 years.
    Go fuck yourself.

    To even ask this fucking dumb of a question means you either think I'm a retard or you're a retard. In either case, fuck off.

    But if you must know...

    --so, first just M and SD for all AC players per team; M roughly 6, SD roughly 5.
    --then z score for average recruit during the relevant period (using the 1-100 composite scale because FUCKING OBVIOUSLY THE STAR SCALE DOESN'T WORK YOU FUCKING IDIOT)

    Then...

    EV = MEAN(AC) + z-score(REC)*SD(AC)

    Like a fucking expected value calculation.

    How the fuck did you think I was doing it?

    I hope some day one of you morons posts something interesting. Until then fuck off.
    Thanks for showing your work. I always assume everyone is an idiot. Works pretty well.

    You're making assumptions about the relationship between recruiting rankings and all-conference teams so maybe you should see how that relationship holds up historically.

    (*ducks*)
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