If you support trump, you are complicit in racism.
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WTF does that have to do anything? Because I don't want to house strangers in my home? I don't want to house you in my home, what does that say? God what an idiot.Sledog said:
I always ask. How many will you house and support at your residence?Passion said:trump and the republicans new tactic shows just how low the party has sunk in a morass of racism and xenophobia in order to win the mid-term elections.
In their recent political ad, a man on the screen has a shaved head and a mustache and long chin hair. Smiling, he announces, “I killed f‐‐‐— cops.”
The man is Luis Bracamontes, a twice-deported Mexican immigrant who was given the death penalty in April for killing two California law enforcement officers in 2014. At the time of the shootings, Bracamontes was in the United States illegally — and now, with the midterm election approaching, he’s the star of the GOP’s latest campaign ad. . . .
The text is superimposed over videos of Bracamontes appearing to show no remorse for his crimes, and even declaring, “I’m going to kill more cops soon.”
More footage follows: Throngs of unidentified people rioting in unidentified streets and pushing down fences in undisclosed locations. A Fox News Channel correspondent interviewing a man identified only as “deported immigrant in caravan,” who asks to be pardoned for attempted murder. … “Who else would Democrats let in?” the video asks. An image of Bracamontes smiling reappears before being replaced by text, “President Donald Trump and Republicans are making America safe again.”
To all the Republicans who think that words don’t matter, who rationalize support for the president because of judges or tax cuts, who insist that domestic terrorism is unrelated to normalization of virulent racist rhetoric and who remain silent believing they have no moral responsibility for this brand of politics, SHAME ON YOU! I say this is reason enough to vote against each and every Republican on the ballot. We have not seen individual Republican candidates, let alone House and Senate leaders, denounce the ad or insist that Trump take it down. Silence is assent.
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Weird how you always have time for the personal insults just never enough time to back up your lying twat of a mouth or to refute anything I say.insinceredawg said:
Take you on? You think we take you seriously enough to spend our day debating with your Kunt ass? You're a fucking joke and I toy with you for entertainment.SFGbob said:
Yeah imagine that, I actually object when people lie about what I said. Notice how none of these Kunts even attempt to take me on regarding the statements of facts I make or the arguments I put forth. Because they can't and they know I'll hand them their ignorant asses.insinceredawg said:
You're such a whiny little bitch.SFGbob said:
What a lying Kunt you are. I said they don't spread fear about immigrants. When you have to lie in order to smear me maybe that should tell you something asswhole.insinceredawg said:@SFGbob says his party doesn't spread fear. That statement is right up there with "racists aren't welcome in my party". What a lying Kunt.
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If you don't know why this ad spreads fear and false truths about immigrants, then you truly are mentally challenged. Or just a racist. Not sure which one.MikeDamone said:
Check out the track record of republicans using these types of incendiary ads: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/willie-horton-ad-trump-ad-louis-bracamontes-2018-midterms-gop-racist.html
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You don’t answer the question. I agree about immigrants. Not sure about racism. Explain yourself without being an emotional bitch.Passion said:
If you don't know why this ad spreads fear and false truths about immigrants, then you truly are mentally challenged. Or just a racist. Not sure which one.MikeDamone said:
Check out the track record of republicans using these types of incendiary ads: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/willie-horton-ad-trump-ad-louis-bracamontes-2018-midterms-gop-racist.html
Is it an immigrantion issue, or a racial issue? When Obama and Clinton spoke strongly against illegal immigration was it racism? -
No ones talking about immigrants. We are talking about Illegal Immigrants. Illegal. Maybe you need to look that up.Passion said:
If you don't know why this ad spreads fear and false truths about immigrants, then you truly are mentally challenged. Or just a racist. Not sure which one.MikeDamone said:
Check out the track record of republicans using these types of incendiary ads: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/willie-horton-ad-trump-ad-louis-bracamontes-2018-midterms-gop-racist.html -
It's more about culture and the sheer volume of illegals more than anything else. In a span of just 25 years you've seen massive changes to certain communities here in California. Quality of life issue have been negatively impacted by the number of illegals and uneducated Central American dirt farmers don't share much cultural affinity with the people who live here.MikeDamone said:
It’s a fear mongering ad, no doubt. Just like the Willie Horton ad. My question is, all else being equal, and white Canadians were substituted for Central Americans, everything else exactly the same, would the issue still exist? Or is this purely because most Central Americans aren’t white?insinceredawg said:
One immigrant kills some cops and you Kunts say it's an epidemic. Fear mongering pussies.SFGbob said:Why is the ad racist? Was the cop killer really a white guy and Trump is falsely accusing this plucky "immigrant" of the crime?
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That didn’t answer my question.SFGbob said:
It's more about culture and the sheer volume of illegals more than anything else. In a span of just 25 years you've seen massive changes to certain communities here in California. Quality of life issue have been negatively impacted by the number of illegals and uneducated Central American dirt farmers don't share much cultural affinity with the people who live here.MikeDamone said:
It’s a fear mongering ad, no doubt. Just like the Willie Horton ad. My question is, all else being equal, and white Canadians were substituted for Central Americans, everything else exactly the same, would the issue still exist? Or is this purely because most Central Americans aren’t white?insinceredawg said:
One immigrant kills some cops and you Kunts say it's an epidemic. Fear mongering pussies.SFGbob said:Why is the ad racist? Was the cop killer really a white guy and Trump is falsely accusing this plucky "immigrant" of the crime?
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You asked the question
Or is this purely because most Central Americans aren’t white?
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Speaking of liars the democrats have no interest in doing what Clinton did in 1993. I voted for Bill twice despite the fact that his mentor was a segregationist and a racist. And Bill was a liar. But still kid, you're full of shit as alwaysPassion said:
Nah, go fuck yourself "race" old man.RaceBannon said:Passion in all sincerity go fuck yourself
My number one priority if Dems took over - their tax plan skewed toward the middle class and small business startups. Much like what Clinton did in 1993. Brilliant and wealth generating.
But I guess we just see the world differently. I think that being a lying racist is disqualifying for the highest office in the land. Sad you don't agree.
Democrats are on tape across this land bragging about how they are going to fool the voters.
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White supremacists are coming to get youinsinceredawg said:
One immigrant kills some cops and you Kunts say it's an epidemic. Fear mongering pussies.SFGbob said:Why is the ad racist? Was the cop killer really a white guy and Trump is falsely accusing this plucky "immigrant" of the crime?
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Don't forget about how women were going to die if Kavanaugh was elevated to the Supreme Court and how thousand were going to die if the GOP repealed Obamacare. Hondo even claimed that statement about Obamacare had a basis in fact.RaceBannon said:
White supremacists are coming to get youinsinceredawg said:
One immigrant kills some cops and you Kunts say it's an epidemic. Fear mongering pussies.SFGbob said:Why is the ad racist? Was the cop killer really a white guy and Trump is falsely accusing this plucky "immigrant" of the crime?
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Forgive me, I couldn’t find the answer. All else’s being equal, Trump would have the same issue with Canadians? I think you’re saying yes. Passion - what is your answer to the original question (hopefully somethings more substantial than “if I you can’t see it’s racist you’re a retard and a racist”).SFGbob said:You asked the question
Or is this purely because most Central Americans aren’t white?
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I already died twice. First the tax cuts killed me, then ending net neutrality killed me again.SFGbob said:
Don't forget about how women were going to die if Kavanaugh was elevated to the Supreme Court and how thousand were going to die if the GOP repealed Obamacare. Hondo even claimed that statement about Obamacare had a basis in fact.RaceBannon said:
White supremacists are coming to get youinsinceredawg said:
One immigrant kills some cops and you Kunts say it's an epidemic. Fear mongering pussies.SFGbob said:Why is the ad racist? Was the cop killer really a white guy and Trump is falsely accusing this plucky "immigrant" of the crime?
Fear mongering pussy
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Trump thinks immigration should be legal and based on what the immigrant can bring to the table which has been the policy since the land was filled by the waves of eurotrash immigration. Most of whom were white so I can call them trash. And they got shit on by the ones already here. Same as it ever was
After 30 years or so of un (Chris) fettered illegal immigration mainly from the south, and the damage to our systems and my main thing, the construction industry, many of us have had enough. They could be pink tutus as far as I am concerned.
If the white people from Canada were going to vote GOP the democrats would be back the schoolhouse door to keep them out.
@CirrhosisDawg represents the GOP establishment that wants cheap labor and @MikeDamone represents the libertarian let the market figure it out - forgive me if I misrepresented your view.
I have seen wages stay stagnant for 40 years in construction thanks to both parties fucking with open borders.
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Let me add that part of the bleed out of Blacks from the democrats has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with their neighborhoods being over run by illegals. Compton is 65% Mexican now and it was not a bloodless transition. It was a bloody war repeated across the country just not in the neighborhoods of the open border politicians. And lightly covered by the mainstream media
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But why do you hate people of color?RaceBannon said:Trump thinks immigration should be legal and based on what the immigrant can bring to the table which has been the policy since the land was filled by the waves of eurotrash immigration. Most of whom were white so I can call them trash. And they got shit on by the ones already here. Same as it ever was
After 30 years or so of un (Chris) fettered illegal immigration mainly from the south, and the damage to our systems and my main thing, the construction industry, many of us have had enough. They could be pink tutus as far as I am concerned.
If the white people from Canada were going to vote GOP the democrats would be back the schoolhouse door to keep them out.
@CirrhosisDawg represents the GOP establishment that wants cheap labor and @MikeDamone represents the libertarian let the market figure it out - forgive me if I misrepresented your view.
I have seen wages stay stagnant for 40 years in construction thanks to both parties fucking with open borders.
I voted for Trump for the economy and to close the border and I have no problem saying so. -
As I already said, I don't think it has anything to do with skin color and everything to do with culture. There's also opposition to illegal immigration. If Canada was sending us their poor and illiterate whites who shared nothing culturally with most Americans and didn't speak the language you'd have the same opposition.MikeDamone said:
Forgive me, I couldn’t find the answer. All else’s being equal, Trump would have the same issue with Canadians? I think you’re saying yes. Passion - what is your answer to the original question (hopefully somethings more substantial than “if I you can’t see it’s racist you’re a retard and a racist”).SFGbob said:You asked the question
Or is this purely because most Central Americans aren’t white?
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Both sides engage in fear mongering. If you thought I was trying limit this to one side you were mistaken. It's what politicians do.MikeDamone said:
I already died twice. First the tax cuts killed me, then ending net neutrality killed me again.SFGbob said:
Don't forget about how women were going to die if Kavanaugh was elevated to the Supreme Court and how thousand were going to die if the GOP repealed Obamacare. Hondo even claimed that statement about Obamacare had a basis in fact.RaceBannon said:
White supremacists are coming to get youinsinceredawg said:
One immigrant kills some cops and you Kunts say it's an epidemic. Fear mongering pussies.SFGbob said:Why is the ad racist? Was the cop killer really a white guy and Trump is falsely accusing this plucky "immigrant" of the crime?
Fear mongering pussy
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Because I am a racist old white guyMikeDamone said:
But why do you hate people of color?RaceBannon said:Trump thinks immigration should be legal and based on what the immigrant can bring to the table which has been the policy since the land was filled by the waves of eurotrash immigration. Most of whom were white so I can call them trash. And they got shit on by the ones already here. Same as it ever was
After 30 years or so of un (Chris) fettered illegal immigration mainly from the south, and the damage to our systems and my main thing, the construction industry, many of us have had enough. They could be pink tutus as far as I am concerned.
If the white people from Canada were going to vote GOP the democrats would be back the schoolhouse door to keep them out.
@CirrhosisDawg represents the GOP establishment that wants cheap labor and @MikeDamone represents the libertarian let the market figure it out - forgive me if I misrepresented your view.
I have seen wages stay stagnant for 40 years in construction thanks to both parties fucking with open borders.
I voted for Trump for the economy and to close the border and I have no problem saying so.
Hi @Passion -
As reported by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS), 251,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and April 30, 2018, according to DHS status indicators. These criminal aliens were charged with:insinceredawg said:
One immigrant kills some cops and you Kunts say it's an epidemic. Fear mongering pussies.SFGbob said:Why is the ad racist? Was the cop killer really a white guy and Trump is falsely accusing this plucky "immigrant" of the crime?
More than 663,000 criminal offenses;
1,351 homicides;
7,156 sexual assaults;
9,938 weapons charges;
79,049 assaults;
18,685 burglaries;
79,900 drug charges;
815 kidnappings;
44,882 thefts;
4,292 robberies.
At what point does it become an epidemic with you? How many deaths at the hands of illegals is acceptable?
i don't think it's fearmongering to say these statistics prove we have an epidemic.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/departments-justice-and-homeland-security-release-quarterly-alien-incarceration-report -
Yep, much of the "hate crime" activities against blacks wasn't coming from white guys it was coming from Hispanics. Many of the blacks in South Central have been pushed out or willingly moved out toward Riverside. No mention of "black flight" from the inner-city the way whites were excoriated when they moved out to the suburbs. It was treated as a local crime story by the MSM and got very little national coverage because there was no white people who you could blame it on.RaceBannon said:Let me add that part of the bleed out of Blacks from the democrats has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with their neighborhoods being over run by illegals. Compton is 65% Mexican now and it was not a bloodless transition. It was a bloody war repeated across the country just not in the neighborhoods of the open border politicians. And lightly covered by the mainstream media
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Democrats like to show their support of diversity by engaging in ageism and racism - assigning negative characteristics to entire groups based on being white and old
And then tell us they are morally superior to us and trying to shame us into voting for them.
I'm just not inclined to vote for a party that calls me a racist Nazi white supremacist. And old - that hurts man -
Just check the criminal illegal stats from Texas. If it saves just one life all must be deported!
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MrsEm analyzes this data for a federal mandate.RaceBannon said:Let me add that part of the bleed out of Blacks from the democrats has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with their neighborhoods being over run by illegals. Compton is 65% Mexican now and it was not a bloodless transition. It was a bloody war repeated across the country just not in the neighborhoods of the open border politicians. And lightly covered by the mainstream media
Constant racial struggle in the midwest low-income areas as well. Blacks have been pushed further and further away from the city. Neighborhood demos have flipped on their heads. Racial vitriol between blacks and Hispanics can be as bad as with whitey.
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I used to the think so; I wonder about it now.HillsboroDuck said:And it's this kind of rhetoric from the left why Trump wins despite his own lies and ridiculousness.
This country is begging for a sensible centrist third party.
Or SMOD.
People seem to have more fun on the fringe. The middle is boring, and I wonder if it can get anyone elected.
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They don't even try to get our votes any longer. The only way that you can be a white male and support the Rats is that you either have to be gay, you have to be a male like pajama boy, or you're already so ridiculously wealthy you support liberal politics in order to buy yourself protection from the mob. Recall how Gates was vilified by the left until he came out and start advocating and funding liberal policies.
Take a good look at some of the males that were protesting against Kavanaugh. That's the kind of low testosterone male you have to be in order to support the Rats. -
It is bi partisan but the partisan part is what is the middle? Both sides think they are. That's why we have elections. Politicians will do or say what needs to be said to win.creepycoug said:
I used to the think so; I wonder about it now.HillsboroDuck said:And it's this kind of rhetoric from the left why Trump wins despite his own lies and ridiculousness.
This country is begging for a sensible centrist third party.
Or SMOD.
People seem to have more fun on the fringe. The middle is boring, and I wonder if it can get anyone elected.
Don't twist; it's a bi-partisan comment.
The GOP sucks. Ryan and McConnell didn't do shit for two years on the biggest issue on their plate - replacing Obamacare. Nor did they follow Trump on the wall or the border. So do I go back and vote for the clowns that fucked up my insurance in the first place and who want open borders? Whats an old white guy to do?
I think I am moderate because over my life I have voted far more democrat than GOP. Sure I am an asshole here but this isn't real life. Its the internet
I voted for Trump separate from either party because both parties hate him. Guarantee you the GOP establishment is willing to take a loss next week to stick it to Trump. And yet he is out there all the time while Ryan preps for his career as a high paid lobbyist.
This election is about Trump even though he isn't on the ballot and he is the only hope the GOP has. Despite themselves