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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Race is spot on here

    The defense does a lot right ...

    But for as much as people shit on Browning for his issues (and fairly so), the defense has shit the bed in key spots more than many would care to admit

    @Tequilla is one of the smartest posters here
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.

    Kawasaki used to make good half time adjustments, problem is jimmy still needs more time
    Halftime adjustments aren't the problem. Late fourth quarter adjustments are the problem (Cal, ASU last year, arguably overtime at Oregon).
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    The offense is failing.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs

    That's a great defense.

    We don't have one. We have a scheme

    Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team

    I'm not calling this the 84 defense.

    It's plenty good enough to be 8-1, at least though.

    The offense is the issue.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs

    That's a great defense.

    We don't have one. We have a scheme

    Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team

    Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?
    Yes and no. The team that wins in the trenches won then, and still wins now. You can’t survive having a shitty QB these days though.
    Right, and you're not winning any games only getting 3 first down.

    It's a completely different era with the rules, greater understanding and development of the passing game, tempo, spacing, etc.

    Nobody's winning that kind of game these days.

    Great as it was the 84 defense also gave up more in regulation in a game than the 18 defense has. People forget that. Thankfully the offense showed that game against Cuog.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458 Founders Club

    Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs

    That's a great defense.

    We don't have one. We have a scheme

    Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team

    Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?
    Do you have a point?
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    6 and 3
    Good enough for some apparently.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    6 and 3
    Good enough for some apparently.
    You can't read.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    6 and 3
    Good enough for some apparently.
    You can't read.
    Try thinking. It's hard I know.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    The offense is failing.
    Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    The offense is failing.
    Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?
    Sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer.

    Usually in fact.

    Occam's Razor and shit.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    The offense is failing.
    Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?
    Sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer.

    Usually in fact.

    Occam's Razor and shit.
    Deep.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,968 Swaye's Wigwam

    Tequilla said:

    Race is spot on here

    The defense does a lot right ...

    But for as much as people shit on Browning for his issues (and fairly so), the defense has shit the bed in key spots more than many would care to admit

    @Tequilla is one of the smartest posters here

    Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs

    That's a great defense.

    We don't have one. We have a scheme

    Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team

    Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?

    Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs

    That's a great defense.

    We don't have one. We have a scheme

    Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team

    Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?
    No shit the game has changed but a dominant d leading to W’s while making up for a shitty O hasn’t. LOB of the past says 👋
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.

    There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.


    Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
    The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.

    The offenses job is to score points.

    It's hard.
    And how is that working so far?
    The offense is failing.
    Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?
    Sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer.

    Usually in fact.

    Occam's Razor and shit.
    So...it's shaved oh god oh god?
  • LongDukDongLongDukDong Member Posts: 1,287
    Shit offense. Shit special teams. Need Kawasaki to run the D instead of Lake. And need a non retard QB.
  • Homebrew_DawgHomebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,650

    Tequilla said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    Tequilla said:

    not saying that I 100% agree with him as I do agree that pressure is real. That being said, if you know you can do the job and do it repeatedly in practice the odds of doing so when the lights go on increases substantially.

    Tha fuck? Seriously?

    Stick with tldr.

    Live fire is a completely different theatre.

    Having a tire hanging from the tree in the backyard and a “Specialist” coach Mom and Dad pay for you to fag off with (picture: OR strengmf coach) during High School is great,

    Until they aren’t there and your snowflake ass melts.

    G’s up ho’s down - same as it ever was
    Pressure is real and until you go through those live reps you're going to have to learn to do that ... that's generally true across all aspects of sports.

    That being said, you don't go to complete shit too often as what I was talking about was much more tied to general mechanics and whatnot.

    Henry's miss made a lot of sense to me ... that's pressure coming from speeding up the process and a hook is what happens.

    Haener just flat out doesn't see the field that well and forces balls over the middle ... that was something I've seen out of him in practices as well.
    "Our practices under coach James were so hard that the games felt easy by comparison." - Dave Hoffmann
    If Pete defined OKG according to the attitude and aggressiveness Dave Hoffman embodied, becoming an elite program would be much likelier. James had undersized, try hard white guys, but they were badass. One thing I especially loved about James is that he was color blind.
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