Offensive line coach, great recruiter, suspect head coach

oregonblitzkrieg said:

HillsboroDuck said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

LSU can beat Bama if they play like they played against Georgia.

no

yes, Bama rarely goes undefeated, no matter how good they are. More and more this is looking like the game where they might falter, if any.

Nick Saban with the best QB in the nation is not losing to Ed Orgeron.

I would love to see it happen, but it won't.

Mosster47 said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

You could hardly find a more intimidating environment than Tiger Stadium with a really good LSU team playing with its back against the wall. They know they'll be eliminated if they lose that game. Bama, not so much.

That LSU QB is a good game manager too. Tua has a banged up knee now also. It could happen.

The poont about Tua is a strong one. If he's not Tua caliber then LSU has a shot.

creepycoug said:

IPukeOregonGrellow said:

RaceBannon said:

Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

If you swap Sherbert and Brownshorts last week, UW plungers us? 34-17 easily. If you swap Brownshorts and Joe Burrow, LSU has the talent to plunger almost anyone 34-17 easily. Same can be said about the U or Taggart’s snakehead choppers. There’s are 130 starting QBs in FBS, and maybe 20 in total aren’t Goffull, and even fewer will actually throw an NFL pass.

For as fun as Saturday was, Crystalball is LIPO until we see what post-Sherbert Oregon looks like.

There was a lot to that game outcome besides Sherbert. Yeah, he threw a dime on the tip toe TD, and the conversion in OT was money af - threw it where only Mitchell could get it.

That said, he wasn't fantastic Saturday. He had some drops, but he also ran like shit and let go of a few throws before he really had to.

Oregon's running game was as important Sat as Sherbert. So was the D getting off the field when they needed to. Those two things are markedly better this year than last. That's more than Sherbert.

Everything is important because it plays off of each other. The running game sets up the passing game and vice versa. Sherbert's numbers were superficially bad, but UW has a great defensive backfield and he didn't shy away from throwing at them. The last touchdown in overtime worked because UW's defense is hyper aware of DIllon Mitchell in motion and the defense respects Sherbert's ability to throw an accurate ball with velocity. If you have a Browning-like quarterback who throws an accurate ball without velocity, it changes the defense. When you have a Joe Burrow type quarterback who isn't really accurate, the middle gets plugged on that play 11 times out of 10.

Crystalball is recruiting lights out right now, and it's a safe assumption the talent level around the team gets better over the next couple of seasons. But no matter how good a coach is, getting a quarterback like Sherbert doesn't happen all that often. And the real tell of where Oregon is headed is going to happen when they have a QB who has grade C/B arm talent versus one with elite arm talent.