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Offensive line coach, great recruiter, suspect head coach

RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,765 Founders Club
edited February 16 in College Football Forum
Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,761 Founders Club
    Better to be lucky than good when it comes to making coaching hires. There are few if any sure things.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,570
    I'm still LIPO on Cristobal's in game coaching. But so far, he's at least looked good. I wouldn't say great, but good. He's a hell of a recruiter, which is a plus. A good coach and great talent can win you championships.
  • Fenwick
    Fenwick Member Posts: 1,174
    Cristobal appears to have good position coaches which ease his job
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,818 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2018
    Fenwick said:

    Cristobal appears to have good position coaches which ease his job

    This.

    And Orgeron is a Cajun Neanderthal.

    Not saying Cristobal is mastermind but c'mon.

  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,243

    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

    This is a stupid comparison. Also where did Cristobal suck? FIU? Another stupid comparison, comparing 0-12 new D1 FIU to Ole Miss and USC.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,765 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

    This is a stupid comparison. Also where did Cristobal suck? FIU? Another stupid comparison, comparing 0-12 new D1 FIU to Ole Miss and USC.
    He sucked everywhere

    You seem upset
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,329

    I'm still LIPO on Cristobal's in game coaching. But so far, he's at least looked good. I wouldn't say great, but good. He's a hell of a recruiter, which is a plus. A good coach and great talent can win you championships.

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    #@strongarmcobra
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,329

    Better to be lucky than good when it comes to making coaching hires. There are few if any sure things.

    This is where I come out. May as well roll the fucking dice. Key is to not wait 6 years before waking up. Try and try again until you get it right.

    I always go back to Pete Carroll: he was, what, 8th choice or some shit? Fucking BeavRiley turned that shit down first. Kreist.

    Nobody, and I mean nobody, saw Pete Carroll's run at USC coming.

    When Jimmy replaced Schnelly, the city collectively shit a chicken. Guy who spent his time in the Big 8 having his ass handed to him by Oklahoma and Nebraska Classy.

    The Petersen options are rare.

  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,243

    ntxduck said:

    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

    This is a stupid comparison. Also where did Cristobal suck? FIU? Another stupid comparison, comparing 0-12 new D1 FIU to Ole Miss and USC.
    He sucked everywhere

    You seem upset
    The internal desire for UW fans to want every other school to make the same mistakes they did with Gilby/Ty/Sark would be funny if it wasn't so depressing. Other programs aren't your shitty af AD. UW is UW. No one else is UW stupid.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,765 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

    This is a stupid comparison. Also where did Cristobal suck? FIU? Another stupid comparison, comparing 0-12 new D1 FIU to Ole Miss and USC.
    He sucked everywhere

    You seem upset
    The internal desire for UW fans to want every other school to make the same mistakes they did with Gilby/Ty/Sark would be funny if it wasn't so depressing. Other programs aren't your shitty af AD. UW is UW. No one else is UW stupid.
    As hondo would say you should try reading what I wrote

    Everyone else got it

    You didn't