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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    If Herbert had been on his game I don't think the score would have been nearly as close as it was. Washington is a very good team, but it felt like we were playing at about 65% - 70% capacity.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    If Herbert had been on his game I don't think the score would have been nearly as close as it was. Washington is a very good team, but it felt like we were playing at about 65% - 70% capacity.

    Herbert was horrible any time He had to move his feet sans the TD toss at the end of the first half. UWs secondary is waaaayyy better than WSUs, but WSUs pass rush is waaaayyy better than UDubs. I’m sure they’ll disagree, but it’s the truth. That along with our run blitzes are what I’m hanging my hat on to get UOs Offense off of the field.

    If you’re Oline is able to handle those reads, it will get ugly quick for WSU however.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    If Herbert had been on his game I don't think the score would have been nearly as close as it was. Washington is a very good team, but it felt like we were playing at about 65% - 70% capacity.

    Herbert was horrible any time He had to move his feet sans the TD toss at the end of the first half. UWs secondary is waaaayyy better than WSUs, but WSUs pass rush is waaaayyy better than UDubs. I’m sure they’ll disagree, but it’s the truth. That along with our run blitzes are what I’m hanging my hat on to get UOs Offense off of the field.

    If you’re Oline is able to handle those reads, it will get ugly quick for WSU however.
    Quite honestly I don't disagree

    Just don't miss or you give up big play after big play

    Hubert has limited play against decent teams. Stanford and UW were the first big games he has played

    He handled a sophisticated d back scheme good enough to get the W
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe


    Summary: what you QUOOKS don’t understand is we’ve seen this all before at LSU.



  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club
    He hasn't failed at LSU


    Yet

    If you all want to be insulted by my post go ahead. I think we all know that if I want to be insulting I can do a lot better than that
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    He hasn't failed at LSU


    Yet

    If you all want to be insulted by my post go ahead. I think we all know that if I want to be insulting I can do a lot better than that

    What makes you think I’m insulted?

    Sounds like I’ve upset you if anything.

    As you were.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club
    No

    You were insulted

    A lot
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    LSU can beat Bama if they play like they played against Georgia.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    LSU can beat Bama if they play like they played against Georgia.

    no
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    LSU can beat Bama if they play like they played against Georgia.

    no
    yes, Bama rarely goes undefeated, no matter how good they are. More and more this is looking like the game where they might falter, if any.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited October 2018

    LSU can beat Bama if they play like they played against Georgia.

    no
    yes, Bama rarely goes undefeated, no matter how good they are. More and more this is looking like the game where they might falter, if any.
    Nick Saban with the best QB in the nation is not losing to Ed Orgeron.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club

    LSU can beat Bama if they play like they played against Georgia.

    no
    yes, Bama rarely goes undefeated, no matter how good they are. More and more this is looking like the game where they might falter, if any.
    Nick Saban with the best QB in the nation is not losing to Ed Orgeron.
    Careful
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    I would love to see it happen, but it won't.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2018
    You could hardly find a more intimidating environment than Tiger Stadium with a really good LSU team playing with its back against the wall. They know they'll be eliminated if they lose that game. Bama, not so much.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    You could hardly find a more intimidating environment than Tiger Stadium with a really good LSU team playing with its back against the wall. They know they'll be eliminated if they lose that game. Bama, not so much.

    That LSU QB is a good game manager too. Tua has a banged up knee now also. It could happen.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Mosster47 said:

    You could hardly find a more intimidating environment than Tiger Stadium with a really good LSU team playing with its back against the wall. They know they'll be eliminated if they lose that game. Bama, not so much.

    That LSU QB is a good game manager too. Tua has a banged up knee now also. It could happen.
    LSU’s talent can beat anyone on any given day, they just extremely inconsistent. Would not shock me if bama lost
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Mosster47 said:

    You could hardly find a more intimidating environment than Tiger Stadium with a really good LSU team playing with its back against the wall. They know they'll be eliminated if they lose that game. Bama, not so much.

    That LSU QB is a good game manager too. Tua has a banged up knee now also. It could happen.
    The poont about Tua is a strong one. If he's not Tua caliber then LSU has a shot.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

    If you swap Sherbert and Brownshorts last week, UW plungers us? 34-17 easily. If you swap Brownshorts and Joe Burrow, LSU has the talent to plunger almost anyone 34-17 easily. Same can be said about the U or Taggart’s snakehead choppers. There’s are 130 starting QBs in FBS, and maybe 20 in total aren’t Goffull, and even fewer will actually throw an NFL pass.

    For as fun as Saturday was, Crystalball is LIPO until we see what post-Sherbert Oregon looks like.
    Mariota : Helfrich :: Cristalballs : Sherbert
  • IPukeOregonGrellow
    IPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183

    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

    If you swap Sherbert and Brownshorts last week, UW plungers us? 34-17 easily. If you swap Brownshorts and Joe Burrow, LSU has the talent to plunger almost anyone 34-17 easily. Same can be said about the U or Taggart’s snakehead choppers. There’s are 130 starting QBs in FBS, and maybe 20 in total aren’t Goffull, and even fewer will actually throw an NFL pass.

    For as fun as Saturday was, Crystalball is LIPO until we see what post-Sherbert Oregon looks like.
    There was a lot to that game outcome besides Sherbert. Yeah, he threw a dime on the tip toe TD, and the conversion in OT was money af - threw it where only Mitchell could get it.

    That said, he wasn't fantastic Saturday. He had some drops, but he also ran like shit and let go of a few throws before he really had to.

    Oregon's running game was as important Sat as Sherbert. So was the D getting off the field when they needed to. Those two things are markedly better this year than last. That's more than Sherbert.
    Everything is important because it plays off of each other. The running game sets up the passing game and vice versa. Sherbert's numbers were superficially bad, but UW has a great defensive backfield and he didn't shy away from throwing at them. The last touchdown in overtime worked because UW's defense is hyper aware of DIllon Mitchell in motion and the defense respects Sherbert's ability to throw an accurate ball with velocity. If you have a Browning-like quarterback who throws an accurate ball without velocity, it changes the defense. When you have a Joe Burrow type quarterback who isn't really accurate, the middle gets plugged on that play 11 times out of 10.

    Crystalball is recruiting lights out right now, and it's a safe assumption the talent level around the team gets better over the next couple of seasons. But no matter how good a coach is, getting a quarterback like Sherbert doesn't happen all that often. And the real tell of where Oregon is headed is going to happen when they have a QB who has grade C/B arm talent versus one with elite arm talent.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    No

    You were insulted

    A lot

    That makes no sense. Why would I be insulted? You moved from Washington to LSU.

    After one game.

    You’re quite possibly the first ever qoog.



  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club

    No

    You were insulted

    A lot

    That makes no sense. Why would I be insulted? You moved from Washington to LSU.

    After one game.

    You’re quite possibly the first ever qoog.



    This made no sense at all

    Blinded by being so insulted IMO
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    edited October 2018

    No

    You were insulted

    A lot

    That makes no sense. Why would I be insulted? You moved from Washington to LSU.

    After one game.

    You’re quite possibly the first ever qoog.



    This made no sense at all

    Blinded by being so insulted IMO
    Sorry youre so confused. Heard that happens when you get older.

    Everyday you remind me to make sure to unplug my computer in 30 years and give it to my grandkids dads, just to be safe.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club
    I know words can hurt and I am sorry for hurting you
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    I know words can hurt and I am sorry for hurting you

    Apology accepted, qoog.

  • LesGrossman
    LesGrossman Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,500 Founders Club


    Ed Orgeron. Having a good year like another guy who fits this description - Marco Cristobal.

    Being kind of experts in shitty coaches and shitty coach hires the numbers really are stacked against both these guys but that's the thing about numbers, there will be anomalies and outliers

    Orgeron was Pete Carroll's bag man at USC when he built the title teams. Ole Miss hired him and he said he was going to bring USC football to the SEC which made me laugh looking back on it Went 3-21 in conference and got fired

    Back to USC and was interim coach when Sark got fired. Finished the year 6 and 2 and the players wanted him but SC didn't.

    Went to LSU and got the interim job when Miles got fired. Players wanted him and LSU kept him. Having a big year so far.

    UW got burned twice on the yeah he sucked there but imagine what he can do here - Gilby and Ty.

    Maybe LSU and Oregon are on the other side of that. Maybe

    flatus said:

    And Orgeron is a Cajun Neanderthal.

    Can't understand a damn thing he says

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n1KPQmdddY
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club

    I know words can hurt and I am sorry for hurting you

    Apology accepted, qoog.

    Name calling is never acceptable
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    I know words can hurt and I am sorry for hurting you

    Apology accepted, qoog.

    Name calling is never acceptable
    Never?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,692 Founders Club
    Did I stutter?