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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    Tax receipts have never been higher!!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited August 2018
    Here are the receipts but month. For the record. The change in withholding came in February 18 and April of 18 includes payments for 17 under the prior tax laws.

    photo 00CB2E1A-856A-491C-9053-77B2F31FF64B_zps6jqvt2wz.png

    I still don't know what this means. Maybe @HoustonHusky can chime in and tell us.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    2001400ex said:
    I can’t but I bet @thechart got a boner.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    2001400ex said:

    Here are the receipts but month. For the record. The change in withholding came in February 18 and April of 18 includes payments for 17 under the prior tax laws.

    photo 00CB2E1A-856A-491C-9053-77B2F31FF64B_zps6jqvt2wz.png

    I still don't know what this means. Maybe @HoustonHusky can chime in and tell us.

    Not that you will understand, but receipts are up over last year even with the tax cuts ("Dynamic" scoring said they would be down). Main problem with the budget right now is that the economy is booming which is pushing up interest rates...interest rate payments on the debt this year are up and interest rates hikes will make that balloon.

    Trumps been fine on the revenue side...he should have fought harder on the last spending bill. And it doesn't help when the previous guy adds $10 trillion to the debt...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Here are the receipts but month. For the record. The change in withholding came in February 18 and April of 18 includes payments for 17 under the prior tax laws.

    photo 00CB2E1A-856A-491C-9053-77B2F31FF64B_zps6jqvt2wz.png

    I still don't know what this means. Maybe @HoustonHusky can chime in and tell us.

    Not that you will understand, but receipts are up over last year even with the tax cuts ("Dynamic" scoring said they would be down). Main problem with the budget right now is that the economy is booming which is pushing up interest rates...interest rate payments on the debt this year are up and interest rates hikes will make that balloon.

    Trumps been fine on the revenue side...he should have fought harder on the last spending bill. And it doesn't help when the previous guy adds $10 trillion to the debt...
    How did I know you wouldn't even look at it. Look at February though July compared to 18. Every month except April is down from the prior year. Why is that?

    Do like the look of blaming Obama. Nice work!!!
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited August 2018
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here are the receipts but month. For the record. The change in withholding came in February 18 and April of 18 includes payments for 17 under the prior tax laws.

    photo 00CB2E1A-856A-491C-9053-77B2F31FF64B_zps6jqvt2wz.png

    I still don't know what this means. Maybe @HoustonHusky can chime in and tell us.

    Not that you will understand, but receipts are up over last year even with the tax cuts ("Dynamic" scoring said they would be down). Main problem with the budget right now is that the economy is booming which is pushing up interest rates...interest rate payments on the debt this year are up and interest rates hikes will make that balloon.

    Trumps been fine on the revenue side...he should have fought harder on the last spending bill. And it doesn't help when the previous guy adds $10 trillion to the debt...
    How did I know you wouldn't even look at it. Look at February though July compared to 18. Every month except April is down from the prior year. Why is that?

    Do like the look of blaming Obama. Nice work!!!
    But...but...but...if you leave this out and then leave that out....and then close one eye and spin around it says something I want it to say. YTD last year $2.73 trillion, YTD this year $2.76 trillion.

    Helpful hint...what is the yearly debt payment on $10 trillion dollars at 3% again?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here are the receipts but month. For the record. The change in withholding came in February 18 and April of 18 includes payments for 17 under the prior tax laws.

    photo 00CB2E1A-856A-491C-9053-77B2F31FF64B_zps6jqvt2wz.png

    I still don't know what this means. Maybe @HoustonHusky can chime in and tell us.

    Not that you will understand, but receipts are up over last year even with the tax cuts ("Dynamic" scoring said they would be down). Main problem with the budget right now is that the economy is booming which is pushing up interest rates...interest rate payments on the debt this year are up and interest rates hikes will make that balloon.

    Trumps been fine on the revenue side...he should have fought harder on the last spending bill. And it doesn't help when the previous guy adds $10 trillion to the debt...
    How did I know you wouldn't even look at it. Look at February though July compared to 18. Every month except April is down from the prior year. Why is that?

    Do like the look of blaming Obama. Nice work!!!
    But...but...but...if you leave this out and then leave that out....and then close one eye and spin around it says something I want it to say. YTD last year $2.73 trillion, YTD this year $2.76 trillion.

    Helpful hint...what is the yearly debt payment on $10 trillion dollars at 3% again?
    Answer the question.

    And the government doesn't pay 3%.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited August 2018
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here are the receipts but month. For the record. The change in withholding came in February 18 and April of 18 includes payments for 17 under the prior tax laws.

    photo 00CB2E1A-856A-491C-9053-77B2F31FF64B_zps6jqvt2wz.png

    I still don't know what this means. Maybe @HoustonHusky can chime in and tell us.

    Not that you will understand, but receipts are up over last year even with the tax cuts ("Dynamic" scoring said they would be down). Main problem with the budget right now is that the economy is booming which is pushing up interest rates...interest rate payments on the debt this year are up and interest rates hikes will make that balloon.

    Trumps been fine on the revenue side...he should have fought harder on the last spending bill. And it doesn't help when the previous guy adds $10 trillion to the debt...
    How did I know you wouldn't even look at it. Look at February though July compared to 18. Every month except April is down from the prior year. Why is that?

    Do like the look of blaming Obama. Nice work!!!
    But...but...but...if you leave this out and then leave that out....and then close one eye and spin around it says something I want it to say. YTD last year $2.73 trillion, YTD this year $2.76 trillion.

    Helpful hint...what is the yearly debt payment on $10 trillion dollars at 3% again?
    Answer the question.

    And the government doesn't pay 3%.
    God you are a dumbass.

    From my previous poast: " YTD last year $2.73 trillion, YTD this year $2.76 trillion."

    Helpful hint $2.76 > $2.73. And since the GDP is growing faster than previously expected/forecasted that means future govt revenues will be higher than previously expected as well.

    And for those who follow the Fed, the current expectation is that the Fed will have interest rates at 2.1% by the end of this year and 2.9% by the end of next year (which means the govt will be paying over 3% soon). The current effective borrowing rate is something like 2.4% with the Fed Funds Rate at 2%. Maybe we should go back to having a shitty economy so we can drop the interest rates?

    Now GFY Moron...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here are the receipts but month. For the record. The change in withholding came in February 18 and April of 18 includes payments for 17 under the prior tax laws.

    photo 00CB2E1A-856A-491C-9053-77B2F31FF64B_zps6jqvt2wz.png

    I still don't know what this means. Maybe @HoustonHusky can chime in and tell us.

    Not that you will understand, but receipts are up over last year even with the tax cuts ("Dynamic" scoring said they would be down). Main problem with the budget right now is that the economy is booming which is pushing up interest rates...interest rate payments on the debt this year are up and interest rates hikes will make that balloon.

    Trumps been fine on the revenue side...he should have fought harder on the last spending bill. And it doesn't help when the previous guy adds $10 trillion to the debt...
    How did I know you wouldn't even look at it. Look at February though July compared to 18. Every month except April is down from the prior year. Why is that?

    Do like the look of blaming Obama. Nice work!!!
    But...but...but...if you leave this out and then leave that out....and then close one eye and spin around it says something I want it to say. YTD last year $2.73 trillion, YTD this year $2.76 trillion.

    Helpful hint...what is the yearly debt payment on $10 trillion dollars at 3% again?
    Answer the question.

    And the government doesn't pay 3%.
    God you are a dumbass.

    From my previous poast: " YTD last year $2.73 trillion, YTD this year $2.76 trillion."

    Helpful hint $2.76 > $2.73. And since the GDP is growing faster than previously expected/forecasted that means future govt revenues will be higher than previously expected as well.

    And for those who follow the Fed, the current expectation is that the Fed will have interest rates at 2.1% by the end of this year and 2.9% by the end of next year (which means the govt will be paying over 3% soon). The current effective borrowing rate is something like 2.4% with the Fed Funds Rate at 2%. Maybe we should go back to having a shitty economy so we can drop the interest rates?

    Now GFY Moron...
    You still didn't answer the question. Why do all but one month since the tax law was passed have lower revenues than the prior year?

    Also, glad you agree the government doesn't pay 3% interest and you were wrong. But what da fuq does interest expense have to do with revenues?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Tax receipts have never been higher!!

    Lol at this after @HoustonHusky response.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Double poasting always makes a point...unfortunately it is that you are a moron.

    There is no question...just you waving your hands and saying if...but...and...but...leave off the y, drop the 2 and then divided by 8 and that gives me the answer I want. Federal receipts are up this year over last year...individual income receipts are significantly up over last year (means both individuals and small businesses are doing well). You are just trying to spin a positive into a negative, and failing miserably at it.

    And should I be shocked you can't read (i.e. pushing up interest rates means they are in the process of moving up...not a hard concept for anyone but you to comprehend...). We should just set interest rates at 0% and then the govt will never have to pay interest payments. Oh wait...we did that for 8 years...gave us $10 trillion more in debt...

    HondoFS...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    How much are the democrats going to raise my taxes if I vote for them?

    Thank in advance.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Double poasting always makes a point...unfortunately it is that you are a moron.

    There is no question...just you waving your hands and saying if...but...and...but...leave off the y, drop the 2 and then divided by 8 and that gives me the answer I want. Federal receipts are up this year over last year...individual income receipts are significantly up over last year (means both individuals and small businesses are doing well). You are just trying to spin a positive into a negative, and failing miserably at it.

    And should I be shocked you can't read (i.e. pushing up interest rates means they are in the process of moving up...not a hard concept for anyone but you to comprehend...). We should just set interest rates at 0% and then the govt will never have to pay interest payments. Oh wait...we did that for 8 years...gave us $10 trillion more in debt...

    HondoFS...

    Why are you dodging the question?

    And you didn't answer my second question.

    You are struggling right now.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    How much are the democrats going to raise my taxes if I vote for them?

    Thank in advance.

    That's a good question. How much is it going cost me and my kids to pay the tab left by the Greatest Generation and The Boomers?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Double poasting always makes a point...unfortunately it is that you are a moron.

    There is no question...just you waving your hands and saying if...but...and...but...leave off the y, drop the 2 and then divided by 8 and that gives me the answer I want. Federal receipts are up this year over last year...individual income receipts are significantly up over last year (means both individuals and small businesses are doing well). You are just trying to spin a positive into a negative, and failing miserably at it.

    And should I be shocked you can't read (i.e. pushing up interest rates means they are in the process of moving up...not a hard concept for anyone but you to comprehend...). We should just set interest rates at 0% and then the govt will never have to pay interest payments. Oh wait...we did that for 8 years...gave us $10 trillion more in debt...

    HondoFS...

    Why are you dodging the question?

    And you didn't answer my second question.

    You are struggling right now.
    He answered your question more than once. Stop embarrassing yourself
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    How much are the democrats going to raise my taxes if I vote for them?

    Thank in advance.

    That's a good question. How much is it going cost me and my kids to pay the tab left by the Greatest Generation and The Boomers?
    IDGAF
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Double poasting always makes a point...unfortunately it is that you are a moron.

    There is no question...just you waving your hands and saying if...but...and...but...leave off the y, drop the 2 and then divided by 8 and that gives me the answer I want. Federal receipts are up this year over last year...individual income receipts are significantly up over last year (means both individuals and small businesses are doing well). You are just trying to spin a positive into a negative, and failing miserably at it.

    And should I be shocked you can't read (i.e. pushing up interest rates means they are in the process of moving up...not a hard concept for anyone but you to comprehend...). We should just set interest rates at 0% and then the govt will never have to pay interest payments. Oh wait...we did that for 8 years...gave us $10 trillion more in debt...

    HondoFS...

    Why are you dodging the question?

    And you didn't answer my second question.

    You are struggling right now.
    He answered your question more than once. Stop embarrassing yourself
    No. He didn't.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    How much are the democrats going to raise my taxes if I vote for them?

    Thank in advance.

    Even if you vote for them. They won't win Congress. That being said. Your district is probably liberal anyway so it's not like your vote will matter.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Race seems upset.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    How much are the democrats going to raise my taxes if I vote for them?

    Thank in advance.

    That's a good question. How much is it going cost me and my kids to pay the tab left by the Greatest Generation and The Boomers?
    IDGAF
    I think the AARP should change to AAIDGAF.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    Race seems upset.

    Channeling Hondo isn't a good look for you. Shelton is better than that
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dflea said:

    Race seems upset.

    Channeling Hondo isn't a good look for you. Shelton is better than that
    No one can answer why revenues are down every month after the withholdings changed except for the one month that the 2017 taxes were collected.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    Its not my responsibility to pay any more than I pay now to support a 4 trillion dollar budget because you have kids you can't afford.

    Cut spending and maybe someone that isn't completely gutless like hondo can tell me how much more we need to raise my taxes because I like keeping more of the money that I FUCKING EARN

    It doesn't belong to you or the government
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    How much are the democrats going to raise my taxes if I vote for them?

    Thank in advance.

    That's a good question. How much is it going cost me and my kids to pay the tab left by the Greatest Generation and The Boomers?
    IDGAF
    - GOP
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Its not my responsibility to pay any more than I pay now to support a 4 trillion dollar budget because you have kids you can't afford.

    Cut spending and maybe someone that isn't completely gutless like hondo can tell me how much more we need to raise my taxes because I like keeping more of the money that I FUCKING EARN

    It doesn't belong to you or the government

    Why are you dodging the question?

    That being said, expenditures are way up over last year. I'd look at the people you voted in for that. Democrats don't control Congress or the presidency. I seem to recall an $80 billion dollar increase to the military and whatever billions to Farmers to cover the tariffs.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    Race seems upset.

    Channeling Hondo isn't a good look for you. Shelton is better than that
    Hurtful.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Its not my responsibility to pay any more than I pay now to support a 4 trillion dollar budget because you have kids you can't afford.

    Cut spending and maybe someone that isn't completely gutless like hondo can tell me how much more we need to raise my taxes because I like keeping more of the money that I FUCKING EARN

    It doesn't belong to you or the government

    Why are you dodging the question?

    That being said, expenditures are way up over last year. I'd look at the people you voted in for that. Democrats don't control Congress or the presidency. I seem to recall an $80 billion dollar increase to the military and whatever billions to Farmers to cover the tariffs.
    Shut the fuck up boy

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    Its not my responsibility to pay any more than I pay now to support a 4 trillion dollar budget because you have kids you can't afford.

    Cut spending and maybe someone that isn't completely gutless like hondo can tell me how much more we need to raise my taxes because I like keeping more of the money that I FUCKING EARN

    It doesn't belong to you or the government

    I can afford my kids just fine in spite how much Seattle taxes the shit out of my family to pay for its DSA shitopia. I'd love to gradually reign in the growth in entitlement spending but you old people won't let me.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    How much are the democrats going to raise my taxes if I vote for them?

    Thank in advance.

    That's a good question. How much is it going cost me and my kids to pay the tab left by the Greatest Generation and The Boomers?
    IDGAF
    - GOP
    You want to tell me ho much you want to raise ny taxes? The GOP isn't any different than the dems. Did you notice the spending package they put through this year?

    I just want the Blue Wave on record as to how much they want to get in my wallet

    Is this why Cortez the Killer won't allow media?

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Its not my responsibility to pay any more than I pay now to support a 4 trillion dollar budget because you have kids you can't afford.

    Cut spending and maybe someone that isn't completely gutless like hondo can tell me how much more we need to raise my taxes because I like keeping more of the money that I FUCKING EARN

    It doesn't belong to you or the government

    I can afford my kids just fine in spite how much Seattle taxes the shit out of my family to pay for its DSA shitopia. I'd love to gradually reign in the growth in entitlement spending but you old people won't let me.
    Race thinks the bulk of entitlement spending is food stamps and section 8. When really the increase to the military this year was greater than the total food stamp budget.