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ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
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I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up. -
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too. -
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh. -
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent. -
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent. -
I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious. -
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way! -
You know a great way to direct it?CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Make sure they have to go around. -
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding -
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding -
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes. -
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes. -
So it makes it more difficult huhThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes.
chinteresting
Look be against it all you want for a myriad of reasons. But to say it doesn't make it more difficult is retarded.
You could make a million arguments that for a similar or lower cost there are better solutions.
But to act like it makes zero impact is absurd. -
I’m glad you’ve moved the goalposts from it will stop 40% to it will make it “more” difficult. Nobody thinks scaling a wall is less difficult than hopping a fence. But it’s not gonna stop them. It’s a wall, not the Korean DMZ.Pitchfork51 said:
So it makes it more difficult huhThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes.
chinteresting
Look be against it all you want for a myriad of reasons. But to say it doesn't make it more difficult is retarded.
You could make a million arguments that for a similar or lower cost there are better solutions.
But to act like it makes zero impact is absurd. -
No, but my guns will.ThomasFremont said:
You think the lock on your door is gonna stop a determined home invader? El oh el.oregonblitzkrieg said:
What a stupid argument. That's like saying leave the front door open and unlocked because it doesn't matter anyway, the burglar can find a way to get through the windows.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it. -
I said the 40% (an arbitrary number I picked) of the overall might be actual border hoppers.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad you’ve moved the goalposts from it will stop 40% to it will make it “more” difficult. Nobody thinks scaling a wall is less difficult than hopping a fence. But it’s not gonna stop them. It’s a wall, not the Korean DMZ.Pitchfork51 said:
So it makes it more difficult huhThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes.
chinteresting
Look be against it all you want for a myriad of reasons. But to say it doesn't make it more difficult is retarded.
You could make a million arguments that for a similar or lower cost there are better solutions.
But to act like it makes zero impact is absurd.
Any percentage of those that are deterred or routed through much more easily defendable routes is worth it.
But lets be real. If even 1 person is deterred its worth it to see you cry. -
It would stop a high percentage of people from entering. being able to simply walk across is quite a bit easier than digging tunnels and cheaper. If someone is digging tunnels their mostly smuggling dope. Hard to move lots of people through them. They'd also charge a bunch of money which would limit most from crossing via tunnels. Climbing won't be real easy and sensors can monitor movement easily and cheaply. Open borders is not the answer it is the problem.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad you’ve moved the goalposts from it will stop 40% to it will make it “more” difficult. Nobody thinks scaling a wall is less difficult than hopping a fence. But it’s not gonna stop them. It’s a wall, not the Korean DMZ.Pitchfork51 said:
So it makes it more difficult huhThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes.
chinteresting
Look be against it all you want for a myriad of reasons. But to say it doesn't make it more difficult is retarded.
You could make a million arguments that for a similar or lower cost there are better solutions.
But to act like it makes zero impact is absurd. -
OBK's final solution:
On legal immigration:
- Call a convention of states to amend the Constitution in a way that cracks down hard on legal immigration. Bypass congress altogether, they sold America out & created massive demographic changes without the peoples' consent. Half of our representatives have become demented and have no concept of borders or nations anymore. They are too corrupted by the influence of money in politics and are only care about stonewalling and bickering.
On illegal immigration
- Arrest sanctuary city/sanctuary state politicians who flout the law.
- Authorize border patrol to shoot anyone who attempts to cross the border illegally. That would be a massive deterrent. Just like crossing the Berlin wall was.
- Build a big beautiful wall on every square inch of the Mexican border that it can be built on. Ignore the dumb faggots who think walls don't work, they're wrong.
- Deport everyone who is here illegally without exception. Send the bill to their countries of origin. If said countries don't pay up, create some form of minor temporary economic sanctions to recoup the cost of their one way flights.
-
Might have to work on your branding a bitoregonblitzkrieg said:OBK's final solution:
On legal immigration:
- Call a convention of states to amend the Constitution in a way that cracks down hard on legal immigration. Bypass congress altogether, they sold America out & created massive demographic changes without the peoples' consent. Half of our representatives have become demented and have no concept of borders or nations anymore. They are too corrupted by the influence of money in politics and are only care about stonewalling and bickering.
On illegal immigration
- Arrest sanctuary city/sanctuary state politicians who flout the law.
- Authorize border patrol to shoot anyone who attempts to cross the border illegally. That would be a massive deterrent. Just like crossing the Berlin wall was.
- Build a big beautiful wall on every square inch of the Mexican border that it can be built on. Ignore the dumb faggots who think walls don't work, they're wrong.
- Deport everyone who is here illegally without exception. Send the bill to their countries of origin. If said countries don't pay up, create some form of minor temporary economic sanctions to recoup the cost of their one way flights. -
I'm hearing that when Hungary and other Eastern European nations built a border fence to keep out the Muslim invaders, it didn't work. Wait nevermind, it did...Pitchfork51 said:
You know a great way to direct it?CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Make sure they have to go around. -
I didn't vote for Trump and I'm not some fat, white trash meth head. Unlike globslists like you, I put my country first.CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way! -
Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I didn't vote for Trump and I'm not some fat, white trash meth head. Unlike globslists like you, I put my country first.CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Prove it bitch prove it!
-
Now it’s any percentage. The AuburnDoog is strong with you.Pitchfork51 said:
I said the 40% (an arbitrary number I picked) of the overall might be actual border hoppers.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad you’ve moved the goalposts from it will stop 40% to it will make it “more” difficult. Nobody thinks scaling a wall is less difficult than hopping a fence. But it’s not gonna stop them. It’s a wall, not the Korean DMZ.Pitchfork51 said:
So it makes it more difficult huhThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes.
chinteresting
Look be against it all you want for a myriad of reasons. But to say it doesn't make it more difficult is retarded.
You could make a million arguments that for a similar or lower cost there are better solutions.
But to act like it makes zero impact is absurd.
Any percentage of those that are deterred or routed through much more easily defendable routes is worth it.
But lets be real. If even 1 person is deterred its worth it to see you cry. -
Holy fuck. Go jump off somethingThomasFremont said:
Now it’s any percentage. The AuburnDoog is strong with you.Pitchfork51 said:
I said the 40% (an arbitrary number I picked) of the overall might be actual border hoppers.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad you’ve moved the goalposts from it will stop 40% to it will make it “more” difficult. Nobody thinks scaling a wall is less difficult than hopping a fence. But it’s not gonna stop them. It’s a wall, not the Korean DMZ.Pitchfork51 said:
So it makes it more difficult huhThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes.
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Look be against it all you want for a myriad of reasons. But to say it doesn't make it more difficult is retarded.
You could make a million arguments that for a similar or lower cost there are better solutions.
But to act like it makes zero impact is absurd.
Any percentage of those that are deterred or routed through much more easily defendable routes is worth it.
But lets be real. If even 1 person is deterred its worth it to see you cry.
Nothing lamer than being a twister -
Tommy is a necessary evil. We need cucks like him to get insight into how the mush brained far left thinks and operates. TYFYS.
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The next time you get an insight will be your first.oregonblitzkrieg said:Tommy is a necessary evil. We need cucks like him to get insight into how the mush brained far left thinks and operates. TYFYS.
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Berlin from 1962 to 1990 says "Hi."ThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes. -
Globalism exists in direct opposition to sovereignty. Remember that thing we want all people to have, and what Woodrow Wilson's initial League of Nations was all about? "Self-Determination."Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I didn't vote for Trump and I'm not some fat, white trash meth head. Unlike globslists like you, I put my country first.CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Fuck all the Commie Globalists who don't get it, at all. The more you talk the more ignorant you sound. -
Are we putting armed guards with shoot to kill orders everywhere? No. And people still got through.TurdBuffer said:
Berlin from 1962 to 1990 says "Hi."ThomasFremont said:
The wall eliminates nothing. You just have to go over or under it. It’s not a magical barrier. Yeah they won’t be able to just stroll across, but so what. They will climb over or tunnel under like they already do. What resource does the wall free up for patrolling those other ways? None. It drains resources. I hope this helps but I know it won’t.Pitchfork51 said:
Yes. They will change their approach because the ways are more limited.ThomasFremont said:
Your assumption that a wall makes their chances of success “much lower” is the root problem here. It won’t. It will change their approach. Nothing more. It’s an illusion and a waste of you think a wall solves anythingPitchfork51 said:
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
You know whats easier to monitor? Fewer routes.
But hey, any time you can take a page out of the East German/USSR playbook, you gotta do it.
