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Why is the American & International left in bed with Islam?

oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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edited August 2018 in Tug Tavern
What would cause a movement that previously (allegedly) supported women's rights, free speech, gay rights, etc. to ally itself with a brutal system of oppression and murder that masquerades as a religion and is responsible for atrocities against women, gays, minorities and others throughout history?

Why is the American & International left in bed with Islam? 13 votes

They are naive idiots and don't understand the true nature of Islam
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They have become fascists in their thinking/behavior and can relate to the authoritarianism of Islam and would like to have the power to silence anyone who opposes their own belief system
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They are a bunch of misguided virtue signalling faggots who believe that supporting and defending Islam makes them culturally superior to everyone else
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Fire_Marshall_BilldncPurpleThrobberPitchfork51 4 votes
They were so poorly educated that they think Islam is a race and confuse anti-Islamism with racism
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They are misogynist pigs who don't actually support women's rights (Weinstein democrats)
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They are flaming hypocrites
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YellowSnow 1 vote
All of the above
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RaceBannonSwayeSoutherndawgoregonblitzkriegLebamDawgRoadTripTurdBombertheLSkid 8 votes
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    They are a bunch of misguided virtue signalling faggots who believe that supporting and defending Islam makes them culturally superior to everyone else

    dnc said:

    Much (not all) of the left has made the determination that any minority is inherently right, oppressed and worthy of protecting and any majority is inherently wrong, oppressive and worthy of destruction.

    As this mentality takes deeper root across the country it will chinevitably lead to plenty of hypocritical views and minority on minority skirmishes. Hard to say which minority will eventually emerge as the ultimate authority on being oppressed and how to best destroy the rich white cis patriarchy, but EWIWBI
    White Post-colonial Guilt.

    Crisped
    That's certainly a part of it
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,787
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    They are a bunch of misguided virtue signalling faggots who believe that supporting and defending Islam makes them culturally superior to everyone else
    dnc said:

    Much (not all) of the left has made the determination that any minority is inherently right, oppressed and worthy of protecting and any majority is inherently wrong, oppressive and worthy of destruction.

    As this mentality takes deeper root across the country it will chinevitably lead to plenty of hypocritical views and minority on minority skirmishes. Hard to say which minority will eventually emerge as the ultimate authority on being oppressed and how to best destroy the rich white cis patriarchy, but EWIWBI.

    well said
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,532
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    All of the above
    all the others were TL:DR and this one included any of them that had faggot in the text
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,573
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    They are a bunch of misguided virtue signalling faggots who believe that supporting and defending Islam makes them culturally superior to everyone else
    They got in with a group of friends who keep trying to score more points than the others
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,277
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    It's many things...

    The left strongly believes in world peace, without acknowledging that world peace is a fallacy. They don't understand the concept that a terrorist will still kill you even if you are kind to them.

    The elitist left have knowledge of theory, but lack practical knowledge.

    The left doesn't understand the difference between privileges and rights. Or they do but believe privilege only supports the rich or white.

    Equality in their eyes needs to be evolved from equality of opportunity to equality of life.
    *What I mean is even if a person doesn't follow through on opportunities, and just sits on their ass, they still deserve free health care, free college education, and guaranteed minimum income. Which are things people currently have to work for.

    The left has fallen in love with punching up. Punching up is funny but punching down is horrible. And the punched up should never punch back, because them punching back is either racist or misogynist, while the former is appropriate and justified. FYI - Neither is OK. Example: "The neighborhood" the new CBS show. It has a preview clip that shows a black man laughing when the white neighbor opens the door because he's in a "black neighborhood". What would the public think if the roles were reversed in a "white neighborhood"?




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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,855
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    They are flaming hypocrites
    2001400ex said:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Who here other than perhaps OBK has proposed prohibiting the free exercise of Islam in the US? How does offering criticisms of contemporary Islamic civilization infringe upon anyone's 1st amendment rights?
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    All of the above

    2001400ex said:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Who here other than perhaps OBK has proposed prohibiting the free exercise of Islam in the US? How does offering criticisms of contemporary Islamic civilization infringe upon anyone's 1st amendment rights?
    There should be a debate about whether Islam qualifies as a religion at all. Evidence shows that it's more of a political system than a religion, and I think it should be treated as such.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,277
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    2001400ex said:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Who here other than perhaps OBK has proposed prohibiting the free exercise of Islam in the US? How does offering criticisms of contemporary Islamic civilization infringe upon anyone's 1st amendment rights?
    There should be a debate about whether Islam qualifies as a religion at all. Evidence shows that it's more of a political system than a religion, and I think it should be treated as such.
    Saying shit like this hurts your argument
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    All of the above

    2001400ex said:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Who here other than perhaps OBK has proposed prohibiting the free exercise of Islam in the US? How does offering criticisms of contemporary Islamic civilization infringe upon anyone's 1st amendment rights?
    There should be a debate about whether Islam qualifies as a religion at all. Evidence shows that it's more of a political system than a religion, and I think it should be treated as such.
    Saying shit like this hurts your argument
    Why? It's true.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Who here other than perhaps OBK has proposed prohibiting the free exercise of Islam in the US? How does offering criticisms of contemporary Islamic civilization infringe upon anyone's 1st amendment rights?
    It's the insinuation that the Muslim religion is the issue. It's extremists that's the issue. Just like extreme Christians that want to take down Muslims are an issue.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Islam is NOT a religion. I know it sounds crazy, and I know I don’t get a lot of support for that idea, but I strongly believe that Islam might be dressed up as a religion: it has a holy book, it has a temple, it looks like a religion, but it’s more an ideology and a totalitarian ideology than a religion. You cannot compare it with Christianity and Judaism, and you should compare it with other totalitarian ideologies like communism or fascism. I always use one example to prove it — there are many more that — like in communism or fascism, the penalty is death if you want to leave it. I mean, you cannot leave Islam: if you are an apostate, if you are a renegade, the penalty is death, and even today in our societies, let alone in the Islamic societies, it is enacted upon, you know people ARE killed for that reason, and you can leave Christianity, you can leave Judaism.

    And the other point is that Islam wants to rule the world — as you know Islam means to subjugate, wants to rule and dominate and subjugate, not only the person’s life but also a whole society. The rule of God, the rule of allah, the rule of the Quran and the Hadith is the rule of the society. I’m not talking about all Muslims, I’m talking about the ideology, and the idea of ideology cannot integrate and assimilate in a society, it wants to dominate it and it wants to subjugate with violence.

    The Quran is full of more violence and anti-semitism than Mein Kampf, for instance. People and academics have proved that, so our biggest mistake is, once again, the false equality that we say that Islam is a religion, so they have the freedom of religion. And I believe it’s not religion; it should not be treated as a religion, and the constitutional freedoms of religion do not apply to an ideology. We would not allow in Holland Nazi schools for instance — it’s another totalitarian ideology. Why do we have Islamic schools? Where young children at five, six, seven, eight years old that we want to integrate, get a job, get Dutch friends, participate fully and equally in the Dutch society are being caught up with the Quran and ideology of hate and thought . . .


    Geert Wilders, Dutch Politician

    limitstogrowth.org/articles/2017/03/05/geert-wilders-recommends-islam-be-recategorized-as-political-not-religious/
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