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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    Heard somewhere, Cristobal wants to stay at Oregon as long as Rich Brooks did and win a Rosebowl.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    If Willingham could go .500 at Stanford imagine what he could do at a program like ND or UW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I thought Oregon defending Cristobal's flameout firing as FIU was a silly meme, but some seem serious? I guess every fanbase has homer morons.

    He won the conference. For a program with nothing on probation when he took over that's not terrible. Saban was shit at Sparty and crushed it at LSU. Every situation works differently.

    I personally like the direction of the program. Mario could suck but I'm not going to say anything negative about him before his first game when he is sitting on the #4 recruiting class and the kids are lifting their ass off for the first time ever. He doesn't have the Sark vibe of Willie.
  • blackmamba
    blackmamba Member Posts: 184
    Baseman said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    Wilcox. Tosh. Sirmon. Heyward.
    Yeah but Cristobal didn’t hire this guy



  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    If Willingham could go .500 at Stanford imagine what he could do at a program like ND or UW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I thought Oregon defending Cristobal's flameout firing as FIU was a silly meme, but some seem serious? I guess every fanbase has homer morons.

    Those two scenarios don't make for good comparisons.

    hth
  • SyphilisButter
    SyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
    if i respond seriously on a scale of 1 to 10 how likely are you to froth at the mouth and vomit post 4-5 times in a row?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    How many years does Mario get?
    2 if he sucks. Longer if he gets UO to the playoffs in 2019.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    How many years does Mario get?
    2 if he sucks. Longer if he gets UO to the playoffs in 2019.
    So 2.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    How many years does Mario get?
    2 if he sucks. Longer if he gets UO to the playoffs in 2019.
    So 2.
    LIPO doog
  • IPukeOregonGrellow
    IPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    How many years does Mario get?
    Same deal Slingblade got. There's a laser beam pointed to him at all tims, and the moment things get too bad Phil Knight hits fire.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Baseman said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    Wilcox. Tosh. Sirmon. Heyward.
    Yeah but Cristobal didn’t hire this guy



    Pellum; Leavitt. Holt; Wilcox. Everyone at each school talking about the differences between coordinators.

    Doogs swooned over Wilcox, Tosh, Sirmon, and Hayward. Great staff propping up 7 win coach.

  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    Wilcox. Tosh. Sirmon. Heyward.
    Yeah but Cristobal didn’t hire this guy



    Pellum; Leavitt. Holt; Wilcox. Everyone at each school talking about the differences between coordinators.

    Doogs swooned over Wilcox, Tosh, Sirmon, and Hayward. Great staff propping up 7 win coach.

    Pellum isn't in the same universe as Leavitt.

    In his first season as defensive coordinator, Leavitt's Oregon defense produced significant improvement over the previous year in multiple categories, including total defense (from 115th to 46th), tackles for loss (from 102nd to 22nd), third down defense (from 122nd to 24th), sacks (from 61st to 27th), rushing defense (from 121st to 26th), and interceptions (from 81st to 19th). The Ducks also ranked in the top four in the Pac-12 Conference during the 2017 regular season in rushing defense (2nd), third down defense (2nd), total defense (4th), and fumble recoveries (4th).

    HTH.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    Wilcox. Tosh. Sirmon. Heyward.
    Yeah but Cristobal didn’t hire this guy



    Pellum; Leavitt. Holt; Wilcox. Everyone at each school talking about the differences between coordinators.

    Doogs swooned over Wilcox, Tosh, Sirmon, and Hayward. Great staff propping up 7 win coach.

    Pellum isn't in the same universe as Leavitt.

    In his first season as defensive coordinator, Leavitt's Oregon defense produced significant improvement over the previous year in multiple categories, including total defense (from 115th to 46th), tackles for loss (from 102nd to 22nd), third down defense (from 122nd to 24th), sacks (from 61st to 27th), rushing defense (from 121st to 26th), and interceptions (from 81st to 19th). The Ducks also ranked in the top four in the Pac-12 Conference during the 2017 regular season in rushing defense (2nd), third down defense (2nd), total defense (4th), and fumble recoveries (4th).

    HTH.
    Exactly & Wilcox>Holt.

    And Dawgs led by the great pretender, his All-Star assistants, his star filled classes, their coffee cups brimming, hiding the tender, couldn’t make Washington great again.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Oregon isn't Washington. Whatever UW's leaders decided doesn't equal what Oregon does.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    3-9 in year six is impressive, no question, but "nothing short of a miracle" seems a bit hyperbolic.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    3-9 in year six is impressive, no question, but "nothing short of a miracle" seems a bit hyperbolic.
    Apparently they had a ton of injuries that year and a program like that isn't going to have depth.

    He took over a winless program and it wasn't like Owen where it was a five win team that was missing Jack Lockner, it was the worst team in D-1A and probably the worst infrastructure at that level as well.

    They were voted 6th in the conference in the pre-season of his fourth year and they won it, which would be defined as over achieving. That was the first winning season in program history. Then followed it up with an even better record, had a bad year and got fired.

    He might not be good at Oregon, but if Nick Saban can go 34-24 in five years with Sparty I can give a guy with an ugly looking record who is the only bright spot in maybe the worst program ever's history three years, with an option fourth year if things are going well.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    3-9 in year six is impressive, no question, but "nothing short of a miracle" seems a bit hyperbolic.
    Apparently they had a ton of injuries that year and a program like that isn't going to have depth.

    He took over a winless program and it wasn't like Owen where it was a five win team that was missing Jack Lockner, it was the worst team in D-1A and probably the worst infrastructure at that level as well.

    They were voted 6th in the conference in the pre-season of his fourth year and they won it, which would be defined as over achieving. That was the first winning season in program history. Then followed it up with an even better record, had a bad year and got fired.

    He might not be good at Oregon, but if Nick Saban can go 34-24 in five years with Sparty I can give a guy with an ugly looking record who is the only bright spot in maybe the worst program ever's history three years, with an option fourth year if things are going well.
    Uhhh Butch Davis went 8-5 in 2017 in his first year there, not buying the only bright spot in their history bit.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    3-9 in year six is impressive, no question, but "nothing short of a miracle" seems a bit hyperbolic.
    Apparently they had a ton of injuries that year and a program like that isn't going to have depth.

    He took over a winless program and it wasn't like Owen where it was a five win team that was missing Jack Lockner, it was the worst team in D-1A and probably the worst infrastructure at that level as well.

    They were voted 6th in the conference in the pre-season of his fourth year and they won it, which would be defined as over achieving. That was the first winning season in program history. Then followed it up with an even better record, had a bad year and got fired.

    He might not be good at Oregon, but if Nick Saban can go 34-24 in five years with Sparty I can give a guy with an ugly looking record who is the only bright spot in maybe the worst program ever's history three years, with an option fourth year if things are going well.
    Uhhh Butch Davis went 8-5 in 2017 in his first year there, not buying the only bright spot in their history bit.
    So it's like he had a bunch of RS juniors and seniors that weren't terrible. Chinteresting and just proves my point.

    Bad programs go in cycles no matter how amazing the coach is.
  • IPukeOregonGrellow
    IPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    dnc said:
    Perfect. I need someone to send to the glue factory if Taunau'u goes Trooj.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    dnc said:
    Perfect. I need someone to send to the glue factory if Taunau'u goes Trooj.
    His mom wants him to go to Oregon. I hate that I know this. Fuck you Twitter!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    3-9 in year six is impressive, no question, but "nothing short of a miracle" seems a bit hyperbolic.
    Apparently they had a ton of injuries that year and a program like that isn't going to have depth.

    He took over a winless program and it wasn't like Owen where it was a five win team that was missing Jack Lockner, it was the worst team in D-1A and probably the worst infrastructure at that level as well.

    They were voted 6th in the conference in the pre-season of his fourth year and they won it, which would be defined as over achieving. That was the first winning season in program history. Then followed it up with an even better record, had a bad year and got fired.

    He might not be good at Oregon, but if Nick Saban can go 34-24 in five years with Sparty I can give a guy with an ugly looking record who is the only bright spot in maybe the worst program ever's history three years, with an option fourth year if things are going well.
    Uhhh Butch Davis went 8-5 in 2017 in his first year there, not buying the only bright spot in their history bit.
    So it's like he had a bunch of RS juniors and seniors that weren't terrible. Chinteresting and just proves my point.

    Bad programs go in cycles no matter how amazing the coach is.
    LOL yes Cristobal gets credit for what the guy two coaches later accomplished.

    PLSS POTW
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,332 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    3-9 in year six is impressive, no question, but "nothing short of a miracle" seems a bit hyperbolic.
    Apparently they had a ton of injuries that year and a program like that isn't going to have depth.

    He took over a winless program and it wasn't like Owen where it was a five win team that was missing Jack Lockner, it was the worst team in D-1A and probably the worst infrastructure at that level as well.

    They were voted 6th in the conference in the pre-season of his fourth year and they won it, which would be defined as over achieving. That was the first winning season in program history. Then followed it up with an even better record, had a bad year and got fired.

    He might not be good at Oregon, but if Nick Saban can go 34-24 in five years with Sparty I can give a guy with an ugly looking record who is the only bright spot in maybe the worst program ever's history three years, with an option fourth year if things are going well.
    Uhhh Butch Davis went 8-5 in 2017 in his first year there, not buying the only bright spot in their history bit.
    So it's like he had a bunch of RS juniors and seniors that weren't terrible. Chinteresting and just proves my point.

    Bad programs go in cycles no matter how amazing the coach is.
    LOL yes Cristobal gets credit for what the guy two coaches later accomplished.

    PLSS POTW
    Not to mention Mooster always gives Sark credit for Pete’s wins. Consistent.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Sources said:

    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    3-9 in year six is impressive, no question, but "nothing short of a miracle" seems a bit hyperbolic.
    Apparently they had a ton of injuries that year and a program like that isn't going to have depth.

    He took over a winless program and it wasn't like Owen where it was a five win team that was missing Jack Lockner, it was the worst team in D-1A and probably the worst infrastructure at that level as well.

    They were voted 6th in the conference in the pre-season of his fourth year and they won it, which would be defined as over achieving. That was the first winning season in program history. Then followed it up with an even better record, had a bad year and got fired.

    He might not be good at Oregon, but if Nick Saban can go 34-24 in five years with Sparty I can give a guy with an ugly looking record who is the only bright spot in maybe the worst program ever's history three years, with an option fourth year if things are going well.
    Uhhh Butch Davis went 8-5 in 2017 in his first year there, not buying the only bright spot in their history bit.
    So it's like he had a bunch of RS juniors and seniors that weren't terrible. Chinteresting and just proves my point.

    Bad programs go in cycles no matter how amazing the coach is.
    LOL yes Cristobal gets credit for what the guy two coaches later accomplished.

    PLSS POTW
    Not to mention Mooster always gives Sark credit for Pete’s wins. Consistent.
    As the Sark kids leave Pete gets worse. I'm right until I'm not and so far I'm right.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    You didn't hire Nick Saban

    You hired some loser assistant

    Not even a coordinator under Saban
    He is however a former head coach, and while on paper his record did not look great, what he did at FIU was nothing short of a miracle for that program.
    It's always speshul when you get to 7-6 and win the little ceasar's pizza bowel. I hear it takes coaching at the highest level in a football state.
    About as special as taking home the trophy to the Heart of Dallas Bowl. Woohoo
    Cristobal is recruiting really well. Not sure he has much strategery beyond spray-n-pray, but he's landing some dudes. Aside from that, Oregon's got nothing to go on with him other than blind hope. And that's fine, we?ve been there. But y'all are really pressing on his priors trying to find some brilliance.
    The staff he has surrounded himself with is pretty good, thats undeniable by those who are follow college football closely. He can't do it all himself, which I think he understands and has accounted for.
    How many years does Mario get?
    Same deal Slingblade got. There's a laser beam pointed to him at all tims, and the moment things get too bad Phil Knight hits fire.
    my fingers are crossed that Phil has tipped into Al Davis dementia mode and is in the process of burning the program up scrambling for a natty before he dies.