Should open socialists be banned from holding high office?
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NoAll it does is force the Nazis and socialists into becoming chameleons like Obama and they will Trojan horse their way in with the help of a complicit mainstream media. Better that we have everyone showing their true colors as much as possible, and then let the democratic chips fall where they may. I do agree with one thing; these socialists are nasty and dangerous but don't appear so to many, many people.
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Deplorable?DerekJohnson said:All it does is force the Nazis and socialists into becoming chameleons like Obama and they will Trojan horse their way in with the help of a complicit mainstream media. Better that we have everyone showing their true colors as much as possible, and then let the democratic chips fall where they may. I do agree with one thing; these socialists are nasty and dangerous but don't appear so to many, many people.
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YesYes.
I'm really disappointed in some of you!!!!!!!!!
The day the U.S. is not at least 97% about winning and losing is the day the U.S. is not the U.S., and I'm out!
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Yeah but when socialists get elected we can watch them lose on a daily basiscreepycoug said:Yes.
I'm really disappointed in some of you!!!!!!!!!
The day the U.S. is not at least 97% about winning and losing is the day the U.S. is not the U.S., and I'm out!
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1930’s era, The Nazi Party is a little intense but they’re actually good guys POTD!!!!HardlyClothed said:The DSA are essentially new deal democrats you paranoid moron
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This!allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tools fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
You asked what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
When people axe my about my political beliefs, I often say I'm FREE MARKET SOCIALIST.
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I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.creepycoug said:
I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
Youaxedwhat I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice morethenthan others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way. -
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What's APAG's excuse?YellowSnow said:
I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.creepycoug said:
I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
Youaxedwhat I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice morethenthan others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish. -
Wasn't that the joke?creepycoug said: -
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We're the only nation in history based on a creed, as opposed to one tribe. And relatively speaking, we've been relatively successful and melting all these different tribes together into one successful nation. We've got Germans marrying Polacks, Carribean Messicans marrying Polacks, and so on and so forth. BUT everyone's gotta learn to speak the Engrish. It's the best for national unity and social cohesion. It's also the lingau franca because the Engrish speakers won the wars.creepycoug said:
What's APAG's excuse?YellowSnow said:
I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.creepycoug said:
I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
Youaxedwhat I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice morethenthan others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish. -
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The spanish kicked some serious ass though.YellowSnow said:
We're the only nation in history based on a creed, as opposed to one tribe. And relatively speaking, we've been relatively successful and melting all these different tribes together into one successful nation. We've got Germans marrying Polacks, Carribean Messicans marrying Polacks, and so on and so forth. BUT everyone's gotta learn to speak the Engrish. It's the best for national unity and social cohesion. It's also the lingau franca because the Engrish speakers won the wars.creepycoug said:
What's APAG's excuse?YellowSnow said:
I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.creepycoug said:
I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
Youaxedwhat I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice morethenthan others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish.
No white guilt there, no siree. -
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They did for about a 100 years. But they were lucky and got here? first. After that they got lazy and their whole economy was based on the extraction of gold and silver from the New World. The Engrish model based on being a maritime trading power proved to be far more successful in the long run. This is why we speak Engrish today and not Messican.Pitchfork51 said:
The spanish kicked some serious ass though.YellowSnow said:
We're the only nation in history based on a creed, as opposed to one tribe. And relatively speaking, we've been relatively successful and melting all these different tribes together into one successful nation. We've got Germans marrying Polacks, Carribean Messicans marrying Polacks, and so on and so forth. BUT everyone's gotta learn to speak the Engrish. It's the best for national unity and social cohesion. It's also the lingau franca because the Engrish speakers won the wars.creepycoug said:
What's APAG's excuse?YellowSnow said:
I've told you this before - proof reading is a waste tim here. It's not like we're writing application essays to Bowdoin or Tufts. My Engrish is just as good as yers, and I even read Messican at like a 6th grade level.creepycoug said:
I can't take you seriously if you can't manage the Engrish.allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tool's fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
Youaxedwhat I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice morethenthan others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
And we should all rite like we're applying to Bowdoin and Tufts. What with all the current focus and national obsession with the Engrish.
No white guilt there, no siree. -
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Socialismo myths. The US doesn't have a free market healthcare system. We've been moving away from that for 30+ years and spending has gone up while health outcomes have gone down because of ever more government involvement in an attempt to "fix" the free market.YellowSnow said:
This!allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tools fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
You asked what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
When people axe my about my political beliefs, I often say I'm FREE MARKET SOCIALIST.
Government interventionism creates market imbalances and poor outcomes which it then uses to justify further interventionism. Socialist playbook 101.
Want to see what "American" single payer looks like? Look no further than Dialysis which ironically the GOP signed into law as single payer. It's a fucking disaster that is only getting worse.
Or what about "Universal care"...The VA would be your example of that. They can't get good outcomes for a population of people who are considered a sacred cows where no expense is too much.
Socialists should still be able to hold office. Much like the rest of the idiots that can.
“If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists.”
― Friedrich A. Hayek -
No
Never said it did. BUT if we were smart and quit stepping on our dicks we could have a healthcare system in this country that was both free market and socialistic.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Socialismo myths. The US doesn't have a free market healthcare system. We've been moving away from that for 30+ years and spending has gone up while health outcomes have gone down because of ever more government involvement in an attempt to "fix" the free market.YellowSnow said:
This!allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tools fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
You asked what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
When people axe my about my political beliefs, I often say I'm FREE MARKET SOCIALIST.
Government interventionism creates market imbalances and poor outcomes which it then uses to justify further interventionism. Socialist playbook 101.
Want to see what "American" single payer looks like? Look no further than Dialysis which ironically the GOP signed into law as single payer. It's a fucking disaster that is only getting worse.
Or what about "Universal care"...The VA would be your example of that. They can't get good outcomes for a population of people who are considered a sacred cows where no expense is too much.
Socialists should still be able to hold office. Much like the rest of the idiots that can.
“If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists.”
― Friedrich A. Hayek -
YellowSnow said:
Never said it did. BUT if we were smart and quit stepping on our dicks we could have a healthcare system in this country that was both free market and socialistic.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Socialismo myths. The US doesn't have a free market healthcare system. We've been moving away from that for 30+ years and spending has gone up while health outcomes have gone down because of ever more government involvement in an attempt to "fix" the free market.YellowSnow said:
This!allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tools fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
You asked what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
When people axe my about my political beliefs, I often say I'm FREE MARKET SOCIALIST.
Government interventionism creates market imbalances and poor outcomes which it then uses to justify further interventionism. Socialist playbook 101.
Want to see what "American" single payer looks like? Look no further than Dialysis which ironically the GOP signed into law as single payer. It's a fucking disaster that is only getting worse.
Or what about "Universal care"...The VA would be your example of that. They can't get good outcomes for a population of people who are considered a sacred cows where no expense is too much.
Socialists should still be able to hold office. Much like the rest of the idiots that can.
“If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists.”
― Friedrich A. Hayek
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I'm more libertarian than not, but not to the extreme that I think it's ok for communists or nazis to take over the business of governing just because they were voted in. That's where libertarianism ends. It can't coexist with those types of systems.creepycoug said: -
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HSA accounts for medical care up to a certain amount. Single payer for catastrophic. That's the solution my frens.GrundleStiltzkin said:YellowSnow said:
Never said it did. BUT if we were smart and quit stepping on our dicks we could have a healthcare system in this country that was both free market and socialistic.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Socialismo myths. The US doesn't have a free market healthcare system. We've been moving away from that for 30+ years and spending has gone up while health outcomes have gone down because of ever more government involvement in an attempt to "fix" the free market.YellowSnow said:
This!allpurpleallgold said:
Capitalism is the best economic system humans have come up but it’s not perfect. And when and where it fails us we need to be willing to look at alternatives. Healthcare is the best example of this. We have the 37th ranked healthcare system and we are the worlds lone super power. Capitalism fails us here.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a difficult one to read and you're far from stupid, what's your deal? What do you have to gain from socialism? What makes you think your buddies will succeed where their predecessors have all failed in every country it's been tried in?allpurpleallgold said:
Dubya was the end of America. Obama was the end of America. Trump is the end of America. Now universal healthcare will bring us to our knees. Dubya was a nazi. Obama was a nazi. Trump is a nazi. Now paying for college is the same as gassing Jews.oregonblitzkrieg said:So the majority doesn't think banning socialists is a good idea. Ok. How do you deal with them then? Because no one in their right mind wants those fucks running the country in the future. It would be the end of America. The alternative is to dismantle and rebuild the broken education system that failed to educate them about the evils of Marxism/socialism/communism. Trump getting to name another justice to the court will go a long way in pre-emptively breaking the legs of the next generation so that it will be more difficult for them to get these filthy systems of oppression and failure off the ground. It's all about stopping millennials from acting on the ignorance they were taught by their predecessors, Gen X and the baby boomers.
And we don’t give a shit about the Supreme Court. We’ll just amend the constitution.
The countries with the best healthcare all have universal healthcare. It’s not about socialism, I want the system that’s the best. So if you can come up with a way to get America to number 1, where we should be striving to be on everything, that keeps the healthcare system in the capitalist system, I’m all ears. Until then, we have a problem, I have a solution and you’re screaming about Nazis.
The difference between us, in my view, is you think one economic system is inherently good and another inherently evil. I think they’re tools to be used. You can use the tools to do good and you can use them to do evil. It’s not the tools fault what you do with it. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right?
You asked what I have to gain. I believe a capitalist system that utilizes the best elements of socialism will make America the best it can be. I think kids walking off their college campus with a degree and no debt is good for the country. Just like I think improving healthcare is good for the country. Some people will have to sacrifice more then others to make the country a better place. But some asshole once said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” and I don’t understand how anyone that calls themselves a patriot doesn’t think that way.
When people axe my about my political beliefs, I often say I'm FREE MARKET SOCIALIST.
Government interventionism creates market imbalances and poor outcomes which it then uses to justify further interventionism. Socialist playbook 101.
Want to see what "American" single payer looks like? Look no further than Dialysis which ironically the GOP signed into law as single payer. It's a fucking disaster that is only getting worse.
Or what about "Universal care"...The VA would be your example of that. They can't get good outcomes for a population of people who are considered a sacred cows where no expense is too much.
Socialists should still be able to hold office. Much like the rest of the idiots that can.
“If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists.”
― Friedrich A. Hayek
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YesLibertarianism will fail, like anything when it's taken to the extreme. So say you follow the philosophy of libertarianism in 1930's Germany. Your fellow citizens voted in fascists. You stood by twiddling your thumbs as the country was taken over by thugs. You might be excused because you have no roadmap at the time showing you were this is all going to lead, but you helped kill your own liberty by allowing the mob to fundamentally change the nature of the country into something hostile to liberty, into something that goes against the nature of its founding principles. It must now become your sole purpose to overthrow that system. By then it's too late. You failed.
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Suppose I agree with you. How do we fix this? How do we prevent socialist nazi commies from holding public office? Do we stop the problem at the source? Do we stop them from voting? How do we do that? Well, every problem has a solution. Right?
Quit being such a pussy and spit it out. Remember. No half measures. I want solutions that will work. Bonus points if you come up with the most efficient way of accomplishing your goal.