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  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
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    You have no idea what you’re talking about. During the Vietnam War the weather underground were setting off bombs but that’s the same as being politely asked to leave a restaurant.

    Who was marching in Charlottesville last August? Who drove their car into a crowd of marchers?

    The right wing has been harassing and even murdering abortion providers since the late 70’s but when they get even a little incivility thrown back in their face they meltdown.

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Democrats of the day largely condemned the actions of the Weather Underground. Today, you see very few leaders within the democrat party condemning the violence and hatred coming from groups like ANTIFA, and instead are calling for the harassment of anyone who disagrees or supports those who disagree with them. The party has changed dramatically.

    “Hatred and violence coming from groups like ANTIFA”

    Who have they murdered? Give me a fucking break.

    I saw Pelosi and Schumer both condemned Waters the other day. It’s dumb because democrats are never going to get any credit from the right for doing this (as demonstrated by you here). The right won’t have some epiphany about democrats and start thinking that they aren’t raging communist baby murderers.

    It’s a sucker’s game.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,226
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    2001400ex said:


    You have no idea what you’re talking about. During the Vietnam War the weather underground were setting off bombs but that’s the same as being politely asked to leave a restaurant.

    Who was marching in Charlottesville last August? Who drove their car into a crowd of marchers?

    The right wing has been harassing and even murdering abortion providers since the late 70’s but when they get even a little incivility thrown back in their face they meltdown.

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Democrats of the day largely condemned the actions of the Weather Underground. Today, you see very few leaders within the democrat party condemning the violence and hatred coming from groups like ANTIFA, and instead are calling for the harassment of anyone who disagrees or supports those who disagree with them. The party has changed dramatically.

    That being said. You support a president that has zero problems supporting white supremacists and blamed antifa for violence actually caused by white supremacists. And incites violence with his words and tweets. Why don't you and Republicans push back on Trump's words?
    “Racism is evil,” the US president said at the White House. “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,705
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    Don't apologize

    Ever

    Works for Trump
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,226
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    You have no idea what you’re talking about. During the Vietnam War the weather underground were setting off bombs but that’s the same as being politely asked to leave a restaurant.

    Who was marching in Charlottesville last August? Who drove their car into a crowd of marchers?

    The right wing has been harassing and even murdering abortion providers since the late 70’s but when they get even a little incivility thrown back in their face they meltdown.

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Democrats of the day largely condemned the actions of the Weather Underground. Today, you see very few leaders within the democrat party condemning the violence and hatred coming from groups like ANTIFA, and instead are calling for the harassment of anyone who disagrees or supports those who disagree with them. The party has changed dramatically.

    “Hatred and violence coming from groups like ANTIFA”

    Who have they murdered? Give me a fucking break.

    I saw Pelosi and Schumer both condemned Waters the other day. It’s dumb because democrats are never going to get any credit from the right for doing this (as demonstrated by you here). The right won’t have some epiphany about democrats and start thinking that they aren’t raging communist baby murderers.

    It’s a sucker’s game.
    If you are old enough to remember the democrat party of Scoop Jackson, and can't see the difference in the party today, then I can't help you.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:


    You have no idea what you’re talking about. During the Vietnam War the weather underground were setting off bombs but that’s the same as being politely asked to leave a restaurant.

    Who was marching in Charlottesville last August? Who drove their car into a crowd of marchers?

    The right wing has been harassing and even murdering abortion providers since the late 70’s but when they get even a little incivility thrown back in their face they meltdown.

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Democrats of the day largely condemned the actions of the Weather Underground. Today, you see very few leaders within the democrat party condemning the violence and hatred coming from groups like ANTIFA, and instead are calling for the harassment of anyone who disagrees or supports those who disagree with them. The party has changed dramatically.

    That being said. You support a president that has zero problems supporting white supremacists and blamed antifa for violence actually caused by white supremacists. And incites violence with his words and tweets. Why don't you and Republicans push back on Trump's words?
    Come watch hondo lie in every post
    Where is the lie? Is your Google broken?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,705
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    If you're typing your lying

    There is a reason the old democrats are dying out and you illustrate it daily

    Give me one solution to "wage inequality" that doesn't involve a straw man or some shot at me for something I never said
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    edited June 2018

    2001400ex said:


    You have no idea what you’re talking about. During the Vietnam War the weather underground were setting off bombs but that’s the same as being politely asked to leave a restaurant.

    Who was marching in Charlottesville last August? Who drove their car into a crowd of marchers?

    The right wing has been harassing and even murdering abortion providers since the late 70’s but when they get even a little incivility thrown back in their face they meltdown.

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Democrats of the day largely condemned the actions of the Weather Underground. Today, you see very few leaders within the democrat party condemning the violence and hatred coming from groups like ANTIFA, and instead are calling for the harassment of anyone who disagrees or supports those who disagree with them. The party has changed dramatically.

    That being said. You support a president that has zero problems supporting white supremacists and blamed antifa for violence actually caused by white supremacists. And incites violence with his words and tweets. Why don't you and Republicans push back on Trump's words?
    “Racism is evil,” the US president said at the White House. “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”
    White supremacists sure seem to think Trump supports them:



    Less than a half-hour after Trump’s live remarks, the Daily Stormer had declared the president’s words as a signal of tacit support for their side:

    Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us.

    He said that we need to study why people are so angry, and implied that there was hate … on both sides!

    So he implied the antifa are haters.

    There was virtually no counter-signaling of us at all.

    He said he loves us all.

    The neo-Nazi live blog also noted that Trump had refused to respond when a reporter asked about white nationalists who supported him.

    “No condemnation at all,” the Daily Stormer wrote. “When asked to condemn, [Trump] just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/13/one-group-loved-trumps-remarks-about-charlottesville-white-supremacists/
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,480
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    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:
    Watch the video bruh
    I thought you'd support a burning limo.
    There you go with that thinking business again.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,470
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    You have no idea what you’re talking about. During the Vietnam War the weather underground were setting off bombs but that’s the same as being politely asked to leave a restaurant.

    Who was marching in Charlottesville last August? Who drove their car into a crowd of marchers?

    The right wing has been harassing and even murdering abortion providers since the late 70’s but when they get even a little incivility thrown back in their face they meltdown.

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Democrats of the day largely condemned the actions of the Weather Underground. Today, you see very few leaders within the democrat party condemning the violence and hatred coming from groups like ANTIFA, and instead are calling for the harassment of anyone who disagrees or supports those who disagree with them. The party has changed dramatically.

    “Hatred and violence coming from groups like ANTIFA”

    Who have they murdered? Give me a fucking break.

    I saw Pelosi and Schumer both condemned Waters the other day. It’s dumb because democrats are never going to get any credit from the right for doing this (as demonstrated by you here). The right won’t have some epiphany about democrats and start thinking that they aren’t raging communist baby murderers.

    It’s a sucker’s game.
    If you are old enough to remember the democrat party of Scoop Jackson, and can't see the difference in the party today, then I can't help you.
    John F. Kennedy would be called an extreme right wing lunatic today.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    It should be. All those things poll really well. Corporate democrats are fighting it though because they’d rather lose than represent the voters.

    Or.... Maybe some of them have at least a slice of integrity and won’t run on Faery tails.

    Either way, lack of abundance.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    great platform. Of course it's not realistic but we need democrats like her who will pull the Overton Window back to normalcy.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,272
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    I actually support one of her ideas:

    Universal Jobs Guarantee: We already fork over billions of dollars every year for welfare benefits. Why can't the government open up beach cleanup, forest cleanup, and trail maintenance teams. You do away with welfare outside of SSI recipients who physically or mentally can't work. We already pay these people, so why not make them work for it. At least the government gets something for the money they pay out.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,705
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    I actually support one of her ideas:

    Universal Jobs Guarantee: We already fork over billions of dollars every year for welfare benefits. Why can't the government open up beach cleanup, forest cleanup, and trail maintenance teams. You do away with welfare outside of SSI recipients who physically or mentally can't work. We already pay these people, so why not make them work for it. At least the government gets something for the money they pay out.

    We need to streamline the delivery of benefits for the safety net which unfortunately would eliminate a bunch more jobs because most of the net is government jobs for life telling poor folks how many crumbs they get
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    salemcoog said:

    It should be. All those things poll really well. Corporate democrats are fighting it though because they’d rather lose than represent the voters.

    Or.... Maybe some of them have at least a slice of integrity and won’t run on Faery tails.

    Either way, lack of abundance.
    And this is why we can’t be friends. What is this nonsense? You’re talking about Obama and Hillary, you fucking idiot. Yes, nothing screams integrity like elected politicians making every deccision based on who donated how much to them.

    If you look at that list of platforms and hate it, that’s fine. But you want to pretend it shows a lack of integrity, if you want to play victim like @Southerndawg , then we can never be on the same team. Millennials and Gen Z are coming and everything on that platform is going to happen whether you like it or not. And when really big shit comes up, things like freedom of speech, people like me aren’t going to fight them. Because I’d rather let them fuck up the constitution then ever be on the same side as someone like you.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    salemcoog said:

    It should be. All those things poll really well. Corporate democrats are fighting it though because they’d rather lose than represent the voters.

    Or.... Maybe some of them have at least a slice of integrity and won’t run on Faery tails.

    Either way, lack of abundance.
    And this is why we can’t be friends. What is this nonsense? You’re talking about Obama and Hillary, you fucking idiot. Yes, nothing screams integrity like elected politicians making every deccision based on who donated how much to them.

    If you look at that list of platforms and hate it, that’s fine. But you want to pretend it shows a lack of integrity, if you want to play victim like @Southerndawg , then we can never be on the same team. Millennials and Gen Z are coming and everything on that platform is going to happen whether you like it or not. And when really big shit comes up, things like freedom of speech, people like me aren’t going to fight them. Because I’d rather let them fuck up the constitution then ever be on the same side as someone like you.
    Sincerely,

    Dude that voted for Trump
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,705
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    I think you have a better chance of getting old school new deal free shit from Trump than you would have from Hillary but the dems are too stupid to realize they control the White House

































    What?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,102
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    I actually support one of her ideas:

    Universal Jobs Guarantee: We already fork over billions of dollars every year for welfare benefits. Why can't the government open up beach cleanup, forest cleanup, and trail maintenance teams. You do away with welfare outside of SSI recipients who physically or mentally can't work. We already pay these people, so why not make them work for it. At least the government gets something for the money they pay out.

    "Universal Job Guarantee" is a rebranding of "Work for Welfare" which the Dems vehemently oppose...

    It's already a policy in many states and is considered "Punishing the poor".
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