DDY Fast Strategy White Head Coach Hall of Fame
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The marketing of the entire conference and each individual school is horrendous. UW, Oregon (to some extent albeit very faggy but the kids love it), and USC are doing a great job on the social media front (graphics, content, involvement etc.). The rest of the schools are just pure aids. UW's marketing as a whole is yikes, from the uniforms (hopefully they get fixed) to the overall branding. SC is SC. Oregon is just trying to hard.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
The three schools that combined social media content, uniforms, branding, and just general marketing the best are Clemson, Ohio State, and Alabama hmmmm. The best is Clemson however.
The conference marketing as a whole is dreck. It has no identity and is all over the map. The tv stations suck, the social media accounts suck, everything sucks. Fire Larry Scott and please bring in more talented marketers and designers.
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If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him" -
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him" -
Does Washington State even have an in-house designer/marketing department because their social media shit is pathetic. There are MWC, MAC and FCS schools (Eastern WA, and a lot of the bigger east coast FCS schools ) that put out much much much better content.
ASU is turrrrible.
OSU lol.
Cal eww.
USC is boring.
UCLA is decent.
Oregon is good but super gay (their brand is weak and faggy).
Stanford CHRYST.
Colorado bhahahahahaha.
Utah, the most mormon thing I've ever seen.
UofA uhhhh see WSU.
UW is alright but could be amazing. creative staff is unbelievable but their marketing department bahahaha christ. Don't we have the foster school or no?
If you think this shit doesn't matter in recruiting:
https://www.si.com/college-football/2016/12/28/ohio-state-clemson-social-media-fiesta-bowl-playoff-semifinal
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18565611/meet-kenton-stufflebeam-ohio-state-buckeyes-secret-recruiting-weapon (Urban fucking gets it) -
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land -
"You play to win the game" " Why is knowledge" that's why kids leave the pac-12 lol. Incompetence starts from the top (Hi Larry) and works its way down to every basically every AD and coach in the conference.Pitchfork51 said:
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land -
just win, winning cures all problems
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I don't need your teenage philosophybackthepack said:
"You play to win the game" " Why is knowledge" that's why kids leave the pac-12 lol. Incompetence starts from the top (Hi Larry) and works its way down to every basically every AD and coach in the conference.Pitchfork51 said:
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land
The pac sucks because the entire south part of the conference decided to be shitty at the same time.
And Stanford being good throws everything way out of whack
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How do you get good players? Wow by relating to teenagers!!1!!Pitchfork51 said:
I don't need your teenage philosophybackthepack said:
"You play to win the game" " Why is knowledge" that's why kids leave the pac-12 lol. Incompetence starts from the top (Hi Larry) and works its way down to every basically every AD and coach in the conference.Pitchfork51 said:
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land
The pac sucks because the entire south part of the conference decided to be shitty at the same time.
And Stanford being good throws everything way out of whack
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Winning helps a lotbackthepack said:
How do you get good players? Wow by relating to teenagers!!1!!Pitchfork51 said:
I don't need your teenage philosophybackthepack said:
"You play to win the game" " Why is knowledge" that's why kids leave the pac-12 lol. Incompetence starts from the top (Hi Larry) and works its way down to every basically every AD and coach in the conference.Pitchfork51 said:
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land
The pac sucks because the entire south part of the conference decided to be shitty at the same time.
And Stanford being good throws everything way out of whack -
Oh really? I hadn't thought of that!WeakarmCobra said:
Winning helps a lotbackthepack said:
How do you get good players? Wow by relating to teenagers!!1!!Pitchfork51 said:
I don't need your teenage philosophybackthepack said:
"You play to win the game" " Why is knowledge" that's why kids leave the pac-12 lol. Incompetence starts from the top (Hi Larry) and works its way down to every basically every AD and coach in the conference.Pitchfork51 said:
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land
The pac sucks because the entire south part of the conference decided to be shitty at the same time.
And Stanford being good throws everything way out of whack -
I've been saying this shit for years. It is never good when Alabama or Oklahoma beats out USC or UCLA for a Cali recruit. Not only for conference perception but for the size of the pool we are recruiting in.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
Also every kid that goes to Bama from Cali or Hawaii makes it easier for the next kid faced with that decision and from Bama's perspective makes it a better value proposition for them to expend resources out West. -
Wrongbackthepack said:
How do you get good players? Wow by relating to teenagers!!1!!Pitchfork51 said:
I don't need your teenage philosophybackthepack said:
"You play to win the game" " Why is knowledge" that's why kids leave the pac-12 lol. Incompetence starts from the top (Hi Larry) and works its way down to every basically every AD and coach in the conference.Pitchfork51 said:
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land
The pac sucks because the entire south part of the conference decided to be shitty at the same time.
And Stanford being good throws everything way out of whack
By giving them cash and hookers and assuring them they don't have to do schoolwork you dumb fuck -
Base you've already taken the year off, the only one you've been at HH.Baseman said:
Go ahead and take the rest of thepuppylove_sugarsteel said:
Dont even know where you were going with this race. Sorry but for lack of a better word this is stupid.RaceBannon said:The dearth of non white head coaches in college football requires cultural appropriation white head coaches who coach fast strategy Black players better than the rest. Why this is needed is a discussion for another time. This post will deal with the reality we face.
The white fast strategy coach is like a Black coach in that he is known as a "great recruiter" who "rolls the ball out and lets them play". Maybe not a great Xs and Os coach but relates to the kids and is a players coach. Often know for swaggy behavior that is embarrassing to adults but the kids really like it.
You have your fast strategy white coaches who can't seem to win anything like Lane Kiffin or Rick Neuheisel but getting mentioned by Lil Wayne should at least get Kiffin honorable mention. Kliff Klingsbury is on the hot seat.
Who is on Mount Rushmore?
Jimmy Johnson
The GOAT. He finished the work that Schnellenberger started in turning a sleepy white Miami University into the center of hip hop, recruiting violations, and championship football by recruiting anyone that could play regardless of academics or criminal record with a promise of a fast track to the NFL. He enjoyed beating the blue bloods and the whitest of the white Notre Dame got his particular scorn.
Barry Switzer
Barry is second because Jimmy beat him like a rented mule. Not many others could say the same. Barry took over OU when Chuck Fairbanks left to Colorado and Barry ended up hanging 84 on old Chuck. Barry took all the best players from under Darryl Royal's nose and beat him with them. Barry knew Sooner fans wanted national titles or else and coached and recruited accordingly. He played Black quarterbacks earlier than most.
Bobby Bowden
Bobby said he made it a point to never drive past the players parking lot. Bobby knew he had to beat Miami. Bobby turned FSU into Miami.
John McKay
People forget that McKay started a Black QB in the 60's as well as a double murderer Heisman winner.
Bill McCartney, Don James, and others were among those solid white coaches who went fast strategy late to get an elusive National Title. Chris Petersen may be the next one
Hey I'm race I watched college football back in the day like Pup and 2, but what are u fucking talking about?
BTW, Rick won a rose bowl. This program really needed one. Kiffin doesnt belong in same sentence. The legends you speak of were great coaches but just ain't seeing point of post...but what a new?nightyear off. -
Wasnt asking you dnc, we know you were listening to depeche mode and madonna cassettes with your social leper crowd on Saturdays at 12:30 in the beddy room back then....stay outta itdnc said:
Polys are demographically superior to blacks on a per capita football playing basis. There's just not nearly as many of them in the West as there are blacks int he south.YellowSnow said:
Exactly. The West Coast has no natural recrootin' advantage over the SEC other than QB and Polys.WeakarmCobra said:
Pete would win a natty in his fifth year if he was at South Carolina. The demographics are just betterDennis_DeYoung said:
Pete needs to incorporate two Dabo things to get to Dabo's level: fun and openness.YellowSnow said:
Going into the Syracuse locker room post L and congratulating them is a douche canoe clown as it gets. Fuck off with that shit. Still, the results are there. You win a Natty in the CFP era at a Tier II school - albeit one with high ceiling - something about your program is working.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yep if they (we?) have learned anything from blowing '14 not playing Deshaun up front and play Trevor Lawrence from the get-go, they are odds on favorites. And they are recruiting just as well as Bama.YellowSnow said:Seems the odds are that if Dabo stays at Clempson for a while longer, he will win another NT. 2 NTs at Clempson (i.e., Tier II school) would have to get a coach into Mt Rushmore consideration would it not?
Dabo is a clown, but holy shit: results.
Dabo keeps high standards and he does not fuck around with assistant coaches. He creates an atmosphere where he would NEVER protect under-recruiting white dudes. He needs everyone to be great at everything and he demands it.
I have a lot of respect for the way he's done it. Dabo is weird, but he's a fast-strategy guy and he's tuned in with the fast-strategy kids. Chris Petersen has a great personality, but his bullshit tight-ass routine is fucking pointless.
Dabo is open as shit and is winning Natties.
None of our media members have the balls to ask Pete about the fact that literally every other program has a big spring game. We just suck our own dicks and tell ourselves it doesn't matter. -
J Smith could win the ACC @ north Carolina. What a shit conferenceYellowSnow said:Seems the odds are that if Dabo stays at Clempson for a while longer, he will win another NT. 2 NTs at Clempson (i.e., Tier II school) would have to get a coach into Mt Rushmore consideration would it not?
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ACC has 2 NTs in the past decade. Pac 12 has 0.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
J Smith could win the ACC @ north Carolina. What a shit conferenceYellowSnow said:Seems the odds are that if Dabo stays at Clempson for a while longer, he will win another NT. 2 NTs at Clempson (i.e., Tier II school) would have to get a coach into Mt Rushmore consideration would it not?
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Let it go, he's on a roll.YellowSnow said:
ACC has 2 NTs in the past decade. Pac 12 has 0.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
J Smith could win the ACC @ north Carolina. What a shit conferenceYellowSnow said:Seems the odds are that if Dabo stays at Clempson for a while longer, he will win another NT. 2 NTs at Clempson (i.e., Tier II school) would have to get a coach into Mt Rushmore consideration would it not?
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That works too.Pitchfork51 said:
Wrongbackthepack said:
How do you get good players? Wow by relating to teenagers!!1!!Pitchfork51 said:
I don't need your teenage philosophybackthepack said:
"You play to win the game" " Why is knowledge" that's why kids leave the pac-12 lol. Incompetence starts from the top (Hi Larry) and works its way down to every basically every AD and coach in the conference.Pitchfork51 said:
HuhDennis_DeYoung said:
You are an ASU fan. You wouldn’t understand.Pitchfork51 said:
If an sec kid doesn't go to the home town school he and his family are shamed forever.Dennis_DeYoung said:
THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR FOUR+ STARS LEAVE THE REGION.backthepack said:
People are stupid. Also, thanks Larry Scott FS and FS Pac 12 ADS/marketing departments. It's why kids are leaving the WC in droves.Dennis_DeYoung said:So, doing the math for you losers:
CA - 15.5 players per Tier I&II programs
TX - 7 players
FL - 3.8 players
GA - 2.4 players
OH - 1.5 players
I bolded it so you idiots could get the point.
THIRTY.
If this isn't a fucking crisis, I don't know what the fuck is.
When kids from the West leave everyone says shit like "he's just gotta do what's best for him"
I'm saying the fans suck out west and let kids leave pac land
The pac sucks because the entire south part of the conference decided to be shitty at the same time.
And Stanford being good throws everything way out of whack
By giving them cash and hookers and assuring them they don't have to do schoolwork you dumb fuck -
That’s because the PAC 12 is such a tough conference that the teams beat each other up. If those teams had scheduled Rutgers, Portland St, and Fresno State like UW, I doubt they would have won any titles.YellowSnow said:
ACC has 2 NTs in the past decade. Pac 12 has 0.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
J Smith could win the ACC @ north Carolina. What a shit conferenceYellowSnow said:Seems the odds are that if Dabo stays at Clempson for a while longer, he will win another NT. 2 NTs at Clempson (i.e., Tier II school) would have to get a coach into Mt Rushmore consideration would it not?
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No one in the ACC would want to tustle with a TUFF Fresno St squad. ANYONE, ANYTIME, ANYPLACE!!!RoadDawg55 said:
That’s because the PAC 12 is such a tough conference that the teams beat each other up. If those teams had scheduled Rutgers, Portland St, and Fresno State like UW, I doubt they would have won any titles.YellowSnow said:
ACC has 2 NTs in the past decade. Pac 12 has 0.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
J Smith could win the ACC @ north Carolina. What a shit conferenceYellowSnow said:Seems the odds are that if Dabo stays at Clempson for a while longer, he will win another NT. 2 NTs at Clempson (i.e., Tier II school) would have to get a coach into Mt Rushmore consideration would it not?
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Can't be expected to beat the San Diego States of the world
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Way too many words and numbers Dennis. Jimminy Christmas!Dennis_DeYoung said:
I don't buy this at all. This shit is getting out of hand with the demographics shit. There are more black people, but there are also 3x the amount of schools recruiting them.WeakarmCobra said:
Pete would win a natty in his fifth year if he was at South Carolina. The demographics are just betterDennis_DeYoung said:
Pete needs to incorporate two Dabo things to get to Dabo's level: fun and openness.YellowSnow said:
Going into the Syracuse locker room post L and congratulating them is a douche canoe clown as it gets. Fuck off with that shit. Still, the results are there. You win a Natty in the CFP era at a Tier II school - albeit one with high ceiling - something about your program is working.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yep if they (we?) have learned anything from blowing '14 not playing Deshaun up front and play Trevor Lawrence from the get-go, they are odds on favorites. And they are recruiting just as well as Bama.YellowSnow said:Seems the odds are that if Dabo stays at Clempson for a while longer, he will win another NT. 2 NTs at Clempson (i.e., Tier II school) would have to get a coach into Mt Rushmore consideration would it not?
Dabo is a clown, but holy shit: results.
Dabo keeps high standards and he does not fuck around with assistant coaches. He creates an atmosphere where he would NEVER protect under-recruiting white dudes. He needs everyone to be great at everything and he demands it.
I have a lot of respect for the way he's done it. Dabo is weird, but he's a fast-strategy guy and he's tuned in with the fast-strategy kids. Chris Petersen has a great personality, but his bullshit tight-ass routine is fucking pointless.
Dabo is open as shit and is winning Natties.
None of our media members have the balls to ask Pete about the fact that literally every other program has a big spring game. We just suck our own dicks and tell ourselves it doesn't matter.
The reason why the Pac-12 sucks is because USC is down and our brand is killing us, so like 30% of good players are leaving the west whereas only 5-7% leave the south.
And Pete wouldn't win shit at South Carolina. USC is like winning at Cal. He would get them good, but never Natties.
I'm so sick of this fucking one-factor thinking. Oh they have a lot of talent there. YEAH BUT THEY HAVE MORE TEAMS SHIT FOR BRAINS.
In 2015-16 the top 4*+ talent producing states were
TX: 59.5
CA: 54.5
FL: 45.5
GA: 33
OH: 22.5
But here are the amounts of P5 schools in-region (overlapping conference ties or adjacent states):
TX: 24 (Big XII/SEC)
CA: 12 (Pac-12)
FL: 29 (SEC/ACC)
GA: 29 (SEC/ACC)
OH: 42 (B1G, SEC, ACC)
So, basically even though there are more players in the south, the competition is much more fierce. It gets even heavier if you consider the amount of tier 1 and 2 teams within a 550 mile radius of primary population centers (this is the length you need to connect UW to LA.
Near CA: (3-4)
UW, UCLA and USC (Oregon?).
Near to TX: (8-9)
A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, LSU, Arkansas, Iowa and Bama (Wiscy just out of range; Colorado sucks, but maybe?).
Near to FL: (12)
FSU, UF, Miami, UGA, Bama, Auburn, Clemson, Tennessee, LSU, VTech, Ohio State, A&M
Near to GA: (14)
FSU, UF, Miami, UGA, Bama, Auburn, Clemson, Tennessee, LSU, VTech, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Notre Dame
Near to OH: (15)
Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Iowa, Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas, VTech, FSU, UF, UGA, Clemson
So - the teams in the south are competing with 3x the big time programs (or more) on average.
There are no fucking excuses.
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Very true. Watch the first 30 for 30 and you get the distinct impression that Jimmy was able to relate to those kids. That whole thing with their prez at the time? That was real shit, not made-for-TV dram. Tad Foote made Gerbs look like a community college dropout. Dude was all academis all the time, he liked Miami lilly white, and had much, much different aspirations for the school than what came to pass. I loved the quote by, I think, Randall Hill: "we put this mother fucker on the map. you don't like us now, then to hell witcha!"RaceBannon said:The dearth of non white head coaches in college football requires cultural appropriation white head coaches who coach fast strategy Black players better than the rest. Why this is needed is a discussion for another time. This post will deal with the reality we face.
The white fast strategy coach is like a Black coach in that he is known as a "great recruiter" who "rolls the ball out and lets them play". Maybe not a great Xs and Os coach but relates to the kids and is a players coach. Often know for swaggy behavior that is embarrassing to adults but the kids really like it.
You have your fast strategy white coaches who can't seem to win anything like Lane Kiffin or Rick Neuheisel but getting mentioned by Lil Wayne should at least get Kiffin honorable mention. Kliff Klingsbury is on the hot seat.
Who is on Mount Rushmore?
Jimmy Johnson
The GOAT. He finished the work that Schnellenberger started in turning a sleepy white Miami University into the center of hip hop, recruiting violations, and championship football by recruiting anyone that could play regardless of academics or criminal record with a promise of a fast track to the NFL. He enjoyed beating the blue bloods and the whitest of the white Notre Dame got his particular scorn.
Barry Switzer
Barry is second because Jimmy beat him like a rented mule. Not many others could say the same. Barry took over OU when Chuck Fairbanks left to Colorado and Barry ended up hanging 84 on old Chuck. Barry took all the best players from under Darryl Royal's nose and beat him with them. Barry knew Sooner fans wanted national titles or else and coached and recruited accordingly. He played Black quarterbacks earlier than most.
Bobby Bowden
Bobby said he made it a point to never drive past the players parking lot. Bobby knew he had to beat Miami. Bobby turned FSU into Miami.
John McKay
People forget that McKay started a Black QB in the 60's as well as a double murderer Heisman winner.
Bill McCartney, Don James, and others were among those solid white coaches who went fast strategy late to get an elusive National Title. Chris Petersen may be the next one
Jimmy was no stranger to poor white trash and thus related MUCH more readily to blick inner city than to Tad "Ivy League" Foote. Foote and Johnson fucking HATED each other. The kid knew Foote didn't want them there, and loved Jimmy for being with them. Remember, the U is not in the hood. It's in fucking Coral Gables.
The thing that gets too often overlooked about Jimmy were his technical coaching skills. He made a few blunders as a HC during his time at Miami, one of which cost them the national championship in 86. But Jimmy was as good as they come on the D side of the ball. He may have learned it from someone else, but he is to be credited with changing the way you play D by focusing on speed and quickness at positions where the focus up the then was entirely on size and strength. Compare Jimmy for Switzer for a minute. In the end, the key difference comes down to this: Jimmy had an answer for Barry's offense. Barry had no answer for Jimmy's defense.
That, and he could find talent under a rock. He found Cortez, Russell Maryland, Steve Walsh ... not everyone on those teams was highly recruited. I think next to nobody wanted Maryland, and he found Kennedy playing at a JC in Arkansas with hardly any other programs interested. And what he did in Dallas with the Walker trade - the players he got in the 2nd and 3rd round for what seemed like an eternity - is an all-time move. The guy can spot a player and rarely misses.
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Spurrier and Bobby Bowden are on the Mt. Rushmore of white boys coaching up the bruthas.
Jimmy Johnson, Bowden, Spurrier and Switzer.
John McKay should probably get a plaque because he taught the Bear about the value of the fast, dark skinned ones.
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I thought of Spurrier too but Danny Weurfell...................
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Program of the 90's? Skrong evidence to support it.
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Classy fast stategery, IMOYellowSnow said:Program of the 90's? Skrong evidence to support it.
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Osborne was actually who I meant when I put McCartney in honorable mention as a white coach who went to the fast side to win a title. Osborne is the poster boy for that
He could go 11-2 in his sleep with roided out white boys but he had to go fast strategy to beat the Florida schools and Oklahoma
He doesn't make the mount because he just did it at the end like our own Don James -
Yeah, but boy did he finish skrong. 2.5 NT's to James' and Promise Keeper's .5 NT's each. And he was at fucking Nebraska so the distance to FS recruiting country was even mor that Switzer at Oklahomo.RaceBannon said:Osborne was actually who I meant when I put McCartney in honorable mention as a white coach who went to the fast side to win a title. Osborne is the poster boy for that
He could go 11-2 in his sleep with roided out white boys but he had to go fast strategy to beat the Florida schools and Oklahoma
He doesn't make the mount because he just did it at the end like our own Don James
