Would a 1970 Beatles album have been their greatest work? Aka higher level Fab 4 discussion
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Fenderbender123 said:
John really didn't try that hard after Imagine. Paul put out a lot more than John, yet they both had about the same amount of good stuff.YellowSnow said:
I think they still would have split up by the early 70's, regardless. Just too many creative differences. But there's no question John and Paul were better in a group than outside of one. John didn't really have many good songs post Imagine (1971) and Paul left to his own devices, was a lightweight, indeed.chuck said:I'm not much of a fan of anything Paul did post Beatles though I only know a small percentage of what he recorded.
You could compile a greatest hits of the 70s from John and George and blow anything the Beatles did as a group out of the water in terms of sheer # of great songs. I think those two, especially Lennon, kept Paul from going too light hearted and goofy. Paul kept Lennon a little more grounded and his music a little more consistently listenable since he couldn't let Paul be the only one producing #1 hits.. Keep them all together for another decade and I'm pretty sure they would have kept doing great things as a group.
Let's not forget, Paul had an ugly divorce from Heather Mills.
At the start of the proceedings Mills asked for £125 million, but McCartney offered £15.8 million
In his judgment, Justice Bennett stated: "The husband's evidence was, in my judgment, balanced. He expressed himself moderately though at times with justifiable irritation, if not anger. He was consistent, accurate and honest. But I regret to have to say I cannot say the same about the wife's evidence. Having watched and listened to her give evidence, having studied the documents, and having given in her favour every allowance for the enormous strain she must have been under (and in conducting her own case) I am driven to the conclusion that much of her evidence, both written and oral, was not just inconsistent and inaccurate but also less than candid. Overall, she was a less than impressive witness."[16] Regarding her career, the judge said: "I find that, far from the husband dictating to and restricting the wife's career and charitable activities, he did the exact opposite. He encouraged it and lent his support, name and reputation to her business and charitable activities. The facts as I find them do not in any way support her claim."[87] In anger at the judgment, Mills threw a pitcher of water on the head of Fiona Shackleton, McCartney's solicitor, in the courtroom.
She only got about 1/4 of what she asked for because.....
Wait for it.....
She didn't have a leg to stand on.
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As a fan of interesting international music, one of my favorite Beatles songs is Love To You which features the sitar and tabla.
Was going to link it here, but the only youtube version I found had the audio removed for copyright shit.
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Used to be able to play Beatles on YouTube.uzi said:As a fan of interesting international music, one of my favorite Beatles songs is Love To You which features the sitar and tabla.
Was going to link it here, but the only youtube version I found had the audio removed for copyright shit.
Love You Too is awesome...a rocking song with Indian instruments. -
Still wood. Peg leg or no.PurpleThrobber said:Fenderbender123 said:
John really didn't try that hard after Imagine. Paul put out a lot more than John, yet they both had about the same amount of good stuff.YellowSnow said:
I think they still would have split up by the early 70's, regardless. Just too many creative differences. But there's no question John and Paul were better in a group than outside of one. John didn't really have many good songs post Imagine (1971) and Paul left to his own devices, was a lightweight, indeed.chuck said:I'm not much of a fan of anything Paul did post Beatles though I only know a small percentage of what he recorded.
You could compile a greatest hits of the 70s from John and George and blow anything the Beatles did as a group out of the water in terms of sheer # of great songs. I think those two, especially Lennon, kept Paul from going too light hearted and goofy. Paul kept Lennon a little more grounded and his music a little more consistently listenable since he couldn't let Paul be the only one producing #1 hits.. Keep them all together for another decade and I'm pretty sure they would have kept doing great things as a group.
Let's not forget, Paul had an ugly divorce from Heather Mills.
At the start of the proceedings Mills asked for £125 million, but McCartney offered £15.8 million
In his judgment, Justice Bennett stated: "The husband's evidence was, in my judgment, balanced. He expressed himself moderately though at times with justifiable irritation, if not anger. He was consistent, accurate and honest. But I regret to have to say I cannot say the same about the wife's evidence. Having watched and listened to her give evidence, having studied the documents, and having given in her favour every allowance for the enormous strain she must have been under (and in conducting her own case) I am driven to the conclusion that much of her evidence, both written and oral, was not just inconsistent and inaccurate but also less than candid. Overall, she was a less than impressive witness."[16] Regarding her career, the judge said: "I find that, far from the husband dictating to and restricting the wife's career and charitable activities, he did the exact opposite. He encouraged it and lent his support, name and reputation to her business and charitable activities. The facts as I find them do not in any way support her claim."[87] In anger at the judgment, Mills threw a pitcher of water on the head of Fiona Shackleton, McCartney's solicitor, in the courtroom.
She only got about 1/4 of what she asked for because.....
Wait for it.....
She didn't have a leg to stand on. -
Yep. He didn't give a fuck after Imagine. Hence, lost weekend.Fenderbender123 said:
John really didn't try that hard after Imagine. Paul put out a lot more than John, yet they both had about the same amount of good stuff.YellowSnow said:
I think they still would have split up by the early 70's, regardless. Just too many creative differences. But there's no question John and Paul were better in a group than outside of one. John didn't really have many good songs post Imagine (1971) and Paul left to his own devices, was a lightweight, indeed.chuck said:I'm not much of a fan of anything Paul did post Beatles though I only know a small percentage of what he recorded.
You could compile a greatest hits of the 70s from John and George and blow anything the Beatles did as a group out of the water in terms of sheer # of great songs. I think those two, especially Lennon, kept Paul from going too light hearted and goofy. Paul kept Lennon a little more grounded and his music a little more consistently listenable since he couldn't let Paul be the only one producing #1 hits.. Keep them all together for another decade and I'm pretty sure they would have kept doing great things as a group. -
Yeah, anybody that can play the sitar is talented as fuck.chuck said:
Used to be able to play Beatles on YouTube.uzi said:As a fan of interesting international music, one of my favorite Beatles songs is Love To You which features the sitar and tabla.
Was going to link it here, but the only youtube version I found had the audio removed for copyright shit.
Love You Too is awesome...a rocking song with Indian instruments.
This dude doing a decent cover and playing both instruments is the top return on Youtube now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY3Jn5twwSA -
Wings is one of the best bands ever.
The thing is, John was like the banana in a banana split. You take him out of that shit, you've just got a banana... but it sets off the ice cream and ice cream by itself is better than ice cream with something a little bitter or natural; so Paul was always a little too goofy and shit, but the Wings albums are pretty fucking money.
Still, let's never forget that Lennon did fucking 'Whatever gets you through the night'. Let's not act like he was some fucking amazing artist in the 70s. He was a madman when he lived in LA and used to hang out at my favorite LA bar, the Rainbow with Mickey Dolenz, Alice Cooper, Harry Nilsson, Ringo Starr, Keith Moon and Bob Brown.
My favorite Lennon song following the Beatles (well, I suppose he was still technically in the Beatles) is 'Hold on John'.
But his albums past imagine are dry as fuck. Ringo never did anything worthwhile and George had like 3 good songs (Wah Wah, What is Life, Awaiting on You All, maybe a couple more).
Wings has endless fucking amazing songs. Sure, some are corny - but Jet is fucking amazing, Let Me Roll It, the aforementioned Every Night, Some People Never Know, Tomorrow... Another Day.
Fucking Lennon went to shit, man. He had Imagine and Jealous Guy and that's pretty much it. Oh Yoko is okay if you're in the mood. -
Your music cred took a big hit when you chose your name, and was permanently destroyed when you reviewed one of your own albums. It's no surprise that a member of Styx would be a Wings fan.Dennis_DeYoung said:Wings is one of the best bands ever.
The thing is, John was like the banana in a banana split. You take him out of that shit, you've just got a banana... but it sets off the ice cream and ice cream by itself is better than ice cream with something a little bitter or natural; so Paul was always a little too goofy and shit, but the Wings albums are pretty fucking money.
Still, let's never forget that Lennon did fucking 'Whatever gets you through the night'. Let's not act like he was some fucking amazing artist in the 70s. He was a madman when he lived in LA and used to hang out at my favorite LA bar, the Rainbow with Mickey Dolenz, Alice Cooper, Harry Nilsson, Ringo Starr, Keith Moon and Bob Brown.
My favorite Lennon song following the Beatles (well, I suppose he was still technically in the Beatles) is 'Hold on John'.
But his albums past imagine are dry as fuck. Ringo never did anything worthwhile and George had like 3 good songs (Wah Wah, What is Life, Awaiting on You All, maybe a couple more).
Wings has endless fucking amazing songs. Sure, some are corny - but Jet is fucking amazing, Let Me Roll It, the aforementioned Every Night, Some People Never Know, Tomorrow... Another Day.
Fucking Lennon went to shit, man. He had Imagine and Jealous Guy and that's pretty much it. Oh Yoko is okay if you're in the mood. -
This inspired the line in UGK/Outkast's Intl Player's Anthem:PurpleThrobber said:Fenderbender123 said:
John really didn't try that hard after Imagine. Paul put out a lot more than John, yet they both had about the same amount of good stuff.YellowSnow said:
I think they still would have split up by the early 70's, regardless. Just too many creative differences. But there's no question John and Paul were better in a group than outside of one. John didn't really have many good songs post Imagine (1971) and Paul left to his own devices, was a lightweight, indeed.chuck said:I'm not much of a fan of anything Paul did post Beatles though I only know a small percentage of what he recorded.
You could compile a greatest hits of the 70s from John and George and blow anything the Beatles did as a group out of the water in terms of sheer # of great songs. I think those two, especially Lennon, kept Paul from going too light hearted and goofy. Paul kept Lennon a little more grounded and his music a little more consistently listenable since he couldn't let Paul be the only one producing #1 hits.. Keep them all together for another decade and I'm pretty sure they would have kept doing great things as a group.
Let's not forget, Paul had an ugly divorce from Heather Mills.
At the start of the proceedings Mills asked for £125 million, but McCartney offered £15.8 million
In his judgment, Justice Bennett stated: "The husband's evidence was, in my judgment, balanced. He expressed himself moderately though at times with justifiable irritation, if not anger. He was consistent, accurate and honest. But I regret to have to say I cannot say the same about the wife's evidence. Having watched and listened to her give evidence, having studied the documents, and having given in her favour every allowance for the enormous strain she must have been under (and in conducting her own case) I am driven to the conclusion that much of her evidence, both written and oral, was not just inconsistent and inaccurate but also less than candid. Overall, she was a less than impressive witness."[16] Regarding her career, the judge said: "I find that, far from the husband dictating to and restricting the wife's career and charitable activities, he did the exact opposite. He encouraged it and lent his support, name and reputation to her business and charitable activities. The facts as I find them do not in any way support her claim."[87] In anger at the judgment, Mills threw a pitcher of water on the head of Fiona Shackleton, McCartney's solicitor, in the courtroom.
She only got about 1/4 of what she asked for because.....
Wait for it.....
She didn't have a leg to stand on.
Ask Paul McCartney
The lawyers couldn't stop me
Slaughterin' them pockets
Had to tie her to a rocket -
No love for "Mother"? Mother you had me, but I never had you, is as Fast Strategy as it gets. Lennon's first 2 solo efforts - i.e., Plastic Ono and Imagine - we're both classic and ground breaking in their own way. George's first album had closer to 7 or 8 really good songs. Paul had good songs all the way through Band on the Run including all that you mentioned. Hell, I can even get into Venus and Mars / Rock Show when I'm in the mood.Dennis_DeYoung said:Wings is one of the best bands ever.
The thing is, John was like the banana in a banana split. You take him out of that shit, you've just got a banana... but it sets off the ice cream and ice cream by itself is better than ice cream with something a little bitter or natural; so Paul was always a little too goofy and shit, but the Wings albums are pretty fucking money.
Still, let's never forget that Lennon did fucking 'Whatever gets you through the night'. Let's not act like he was some fucking amazing artist in the 70s. He was a madman when he lived in LA and used to hang out at my favorite LA bar, the Rainbow with Mickey Dolenz, Alice Cooper, Harry Nilsson, Ringo Starr, Keith Moon and Bob Brown.
My favorite Lennon song following the Beatles (well, I suppose he was still technically in the Beatles) is 'Hold on John'.
But his albums past imagine are dry as fuck. Ringo never did anything worthwhile and George had like 3 good songs (Wah Wah, What is Life, Awaiting on You All, maybe a couple more).
Wings has endless fucking amazing songs. Sure, some are corny - but Jet is fucking amazing, Let Me Roll It, the aforementioned Every Night, Some People Never Know, Tomorrow... Another Day.
Fucking Lennon went to shit, man. He had Imagine and Jealous Guy and that's pretty much it. Oh Yoko is okay if you're in the mood.
