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Equal administration of the law is the bedrock of our system and the lack of it is the number one cause for injustice in America
To have the same folks that scoffed at the law for 8 years set up this charade is beyond the pale -
Are you emphasizing that Hillary's lawyer didn't get raided? Who's side are you on?pawz said:HR, YK
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Is the basis for being upset about this client/attorney privilege or something? I'm not seeing the attack on the republic here.
Not saying it isn't an attack on the republic.
Don't twist. -
make america glow again?CirrhosisDawg said:
Finally? You think this signals the end of the trump legacy? We only have Ryan’s tax plan and McConnell’s Supreme Court nominee. Remember how we were going to burn it all down? Immigration reform? Trade reform? Infrastructure investment? NATO reform? Such a shame to see it all go down in flames. MAGA?salemcoog said:Finally!!!! The smoking gun we've all been waiting for.
Legal Plans to build in Russia .
And an alleged settlement with a hooker for something that happened 10 years before election day.
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Stick to what you know.Dennis_DeYoung said:Yeah - Trump has such a history of integrity, I really think this is all a big witch hunt. At this point, you have to question the motives of Mueller.
At least that's what Fox News and Russian Trolls told me. For some reason, they seem to be the only people who know the truth! -
Trump seems upset.
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That's actually a fair question. I'm not privy to the details of what Jack or Jill are learning in this investigation, and of course nobody with nothing better to do than poast here is either. So with that in mind I'm entirely agnostic about the whole thing, as I was with Hillary, who, again, is not my first choice of people with whom I'd like to hang out.Gwad said:
Are you emphasizing that Hillary's lawyer didn't get raided? Who's side are you on?pawz said:HR, YK
All I know is that after a bazillion years of investigation and interrogating and $$ spent, Gowdy didn't deliver me a corpse. She was stupid af with the server business ... that's all I know. Call her negligent. Grossly negligent. If it was criminal negligence, then I guess she should be in jail. She's not. Benghazi was a circus and is the battle cry of the stupid. She may not be my first choice to deal with the next shit sandwich in the Middle East, but jail time would've been ridiculous for that one.
Here, same thing. I have no clue what they guy is looking for really, or what he's found. If a bunch of R's gave the ok to hit T's lawyer's office unannounced out of concern he would destroy evidence, I'll reserve judgment until I hear chirping, at which point I'll question the integrity of everyone involved. At some point, this (Mueller) is like the Trey Gowdy show: do something, or move on. It's been long enough.
But @Gawd's question is a fair one: are Trump's HCH groupies upset that his attorney's office was raided? Or upset that Hillary's wasn't? Is it the raiding that isn't ok with you? Or the lack of it last time around?
I honestly don't have a dog in this fight. I don't have these days the time it takes to track this thing with any degree of rigor. Fuck, HCH is arguably my primary news source, so it's up to you degenerates. Don't let me down. -
Hmmm....creepycoug said:
That's actually a fair question. I'm not privy to the details of what Jack or Jill are learning in this investigation, and of course nobody with nothing better to do than poast here is either. So with that in mind I'm entirely agnostic about the whole thing, as I was with Hillary, who, again, is not my first choice of people with whom I'd like to hang out.Gwad said:
Are you emphasizing that Hillary's lawyer didn't get raided? Who's side are you on?pawz said:HR, YK
All I know is that after a bazillion years of investigation and interrogating and $$ spent, Gowdy didn't deliver me a corpse. She was stupid af with the server business ... that's all I know. Call her negligent. Grossly negligent. If it was criminal negligence, then I guess she should be in jail. She's not. Benghazi was a circus and is the battle cry of the stupid. She may not be my first choice to deal with the next shit sandwich in the Middle East, but jail time would've been ridiculous for that one.
Here, same thing. I have no clue what they guy is looking for really, or what he's found. If a bunch of R's gave the ok to hit T's lawyer's office unannounced out of concern he would destroy evidence, I'll reserve judgment until I hear chirping, at which point I'll question the integrity of everyone involved. At some point, this (Mueller) is like the Trey Gowdy show: do something, or move on. It's been long enough.
But @Gawd's question is a fair one: are Trump's HCH groupies upset that his attorney's office was raided? Or upset that Hillary's wasn't? Is it the raiding that isn't ok with you? Or the lack of it last time around?
I honestly don't have a dog in this fight. I don't have these days the time it takes to track this thing with any degree of rigor. Fuck, HCH is arguably my primary news source, so it's up to you degenerates. Don't let me down. -
Well, do you expect me to give up my HCH free time? Not on your fucking life.salemcoog said:
Hmmm....creepycoug said:
That's actually a fair question. I'm not privy to the details of what Jack or Jill are learning in this investigation, and of course nobody with nothing better to do than poast here is either. So with that in mind I'm entirely agnostic about the whole thing, as I was with Hillary, who, again, is not my first choice of people with whom I'd like to hang out.Gwad said:
Are you emphasizing that Hillary's lawyer didn't get raided? Who's side are you on?pawz said:HR, YK
All I know is that after a bazillion years of investigation and interrogating and $$ spent, Gowdy didn't deliver me a corpse. She was stupid af with the server business ... that's all I know. Call her negligent. Grossly negligent. If it was criminal negligence, then I guess she should be in jail. She's not. Benghazi was a circus and is the battle cry of the stupid. She may not be my first choice to deal with the next shit sandwich in the Middle East, but jail time would've been ridiculous for that one.
Here, same thing. I have no clue what they guy is looking for really, or what he's found. If a bunch of R's gave the ok to hit T's lawyer's office unannounced out of concern he would destroy evidence, I'll reserve judgment until I hear chirping, at which point I'll question the integrity of everyone involved. At some point, this (Mueller) is like the Trey Gowdy show: do something, or move on. It's been long enough.
But @Gawd's question is a fair one: are Trump's HCH groupies upset that his attorney's office was raided? Or upset that Hillary's wasn't? Is it the raiding that isn't ok with you? Or the lack of it last time around?
I honestly don't have a dog in this fight. I don't have these days the time it takes to track this thing with any degree of rigor. Fuck, HCH is arguably my primary news source, so it's up to you degenerates. Don't let me down.
Behave yourself. We've been doing so well. Homie. -
No, it's a government being willing to discredit and try to take down the man at the top because his presidency was never approved or supported by them. It's the duty of the people to overthrow such governments.dnc said:
Actually, it's the opposite of that. It's a government being willing to pursue criminal charges against the man at the top. Something you'd have never seen in REAL communism.DerekJohnson said:
I think its a red herring and a fishing expedition. The fact a judge granted this warrant is terrifying, criminal and like something from 1930s Soviet Union or Maoist Chinadnc said:
Ummm, the Democrats are going to absolutely crush the midterms.DerekJohnson said:
Reading the tea leaves, this tells me they are terrified of the mid term elections. Why else would they make such desperate moves like this as well as YouTube Google overplaying their hand with tyrannical censorship? They're terrified of something.pawz said:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382341-fbi-raids-trump-lawyers-office
I'm just gonna grab some popcorn and wait ...
It's the script.
They have nothing to be terrified of.
I'm far more conservative than liberal, but this move tells me they actually have something on Trump. Which isn't exactly shocking.
Checks and balances ftw.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. -- Abraham Lincoln -
If we're going to start bagging on perversion, then I'm out!!!! @Swaye ?oregonblitzkrieg said:
No, it's a government being willing to discredit and try to take down the man at the top because his presidency was never approved or supported by them. It's the duty of the people to overthrow such governments.dnc said:
Actually, it's the opposite of that. It's a government being willing to pursue criminal charges against the man at the top. Something you'd have never seen in REAL communism.DerekJohnson said:
I think its a red herring and a fishing expedition. The fact a judge granted this warrant is terrifying, criminal and like something from 1930s Soviet Union or Maoist Chinadnc said:
Ummm, the Democrats are going to absolutely crush the midterms.DerekJohnson said:
Reading the tea leaves, this tells me they are terrified of the mid term elections. Why else would they make such desperate moves like this as well as YouTube Google overplaying their hand with tyrannical censorship? They're terrified of something.pawz said:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382341-fbi-raids-trump-lawyers-office
I'm just gonna grab some popcorn and wait ...
It's the script.
They have nothing to be terrified of.
I'm far more conservative than liberal, but this move tells me they actually have something on Trump. Which isn't exactly shocking.
Checks and balances ftw.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. -- Abraham Lincoln -
You quote that, which is great. Then ignore it when Trump says "take guns first and due process later". Or when Trump tries to censor the media. Among a bunch of other examples.oregonblitzkrieg said:
No, it's a government being willing to discredit and try to take down the man at the top because his presidency was never approved or supported by them. It's the duty of the people to overthrow such governments.dnc said:
Actually, it's the opposite of that. It's a government being willing to pursue criminal charges against the man at the top. Something you'd have never seen in REAL communism.DerekJohnson said:
I think its a red herring and a fishing expedition. The fact a judge granted this warrant is terrifying, criminal and like something from 1930s Soviet Union or Maoist Chinadnc said:
Ummm, the Democrats are going to absolutely crush the midterms.DerekJohnson said:
Reading the tea leaves, this tells me they are terrified of the mid term elections. Why else would they make such desperate moves like this as well as YouTube Google overplaying their hand with tyrannical censorship? They're terrified of something.pawz said:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382341-fbi-raids-trump-lawyers-office
I'm just gonna grab some popcorn and wait ...
It's the script.
They have nothing to be terrified of.
I'm far more conservative than liberal, but this move tells me they actually have something on Trump. Which isn't exactly shocking.
Checks and balances ftw.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. -- Abraham Lincoln -
When Trump tries to censor the media?
Tell us more Laura.
Guy starts a thread whining about Laura whining about censorship then whines about censorship
Guy is stupid as previously reported here -
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Now that I've read what they were after - payment of hush money to other women - I completely agree. This is preposterous.RaceBannon said:insider.foxnews.com/2018/04/10/rand-paul-fbi-raid-trump-attorney-michael-cohen-was-great-overstep-robert-mueller
Rand Paul has some fans here
EVERYONE with a brain knows Trump dipped his wick in some strange. EVERYONE with a brain knows he lies a little more than the average bear. EVERYONE with a brain knows he's a little duplicitous.
But come on. This is retarded. This has little or nothing to do with running the government, and flying in a law firm's office to raid evidence of this shit is beyond a waste of time and resources, and for any civil libertarian, a gross overreach of government power.
If they were doing it in the name of preventing a crime or national security, that's one thing. Not this.
Sorry. Using power over a subordinate in office is grounds for harsh criticism of judgement and moral turpitude. Cheating on Melania with skank is not.
I still think he's a dangerous Prez, in that he also flouts the rule of law and kinda just does what he wants to do, and in that he fans the flame of a dirty fringe underbelly in this country that we are all better off leaving alone. But this latest move, and continued focus on Stormy, is just bone dead stupid. -
RaceBannon said:
When Trump tries to censor the media?
Tell us more Laura.
Guy starts a thread whining about Laura whining about censorship then whines about censorship
Guy is stupid as previously reported here -
And?
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You asked when Trump discussed censoring the media. I showed you. Do you need an explanation over everything? Do you want me to hold your hand and walk you through the conversation?RaceBannon said:And?
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I just check back in every now and then to make sure a lot of people I love and respect are still buying the brainwashed fascist bullshit our moron President, Russian Troll Farms and Putin have shoved down their throat with complicity from Fox... and, I'm always excited to see that it's as still as hook-line-sinker as ever.
I'll let you back to your echo chamber! I honestly can't tell what's a joke any more. I read this guy on twitter saying that George Soros' office should've been raided and I thought he was pretty funny, if a little silly... then I realized he wasn't joking.
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Good luck the rest of the way!Dennis_DeYoung said:I just check back in every now and then to make sure a lot of people I love and respect are still buying the brainwashed fascist bullshit our moron President, Russian Troll Farms and Putin have shoved down their throat with complicity from Fox... and, I'm always excited to see that it's as still as hook-line-sinker as ever.
I'll let you back to your echo chamber! I honestly can't tell what's a joke any more. I read this guy on twitter saying that George Soros' office should've been raided and I thought he was pretty funny, if a little silly... then I realized he wasn't joking.
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All of the left in this thread like being for a Harvard Law Professor until they're against a Harvard Law Professor. That's what they like to do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5601007/Mueller-violated-Michael-Cohens-constitutional-rights-just-seizing-records-says-Dershowitz.html
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Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
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Holy shit. Sounds like it's more than just paying $130k out if his own pocket. I wonder if the FBI knows how to search emails?insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No." -
No.insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
It sounds like someone who is smart enough to take the high-road. Something we are aware you know nothing about.
Kind of like POTUS.
So you have that going for you, which is nice. -
Yes Trump is a model of taking the high road. Point taken.pawz said:
No.insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
It sounds like someone who is smart enough to take the high-road. Something we are aware you know nothing about.
Kind of like POTUS.
So you have that going for you, which is nice.
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POTUS is smart and takes the high road?pawz said:
No.insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
It sounds like someone who is smart enough to take the high-road. Something we are aware you know nothing about.
Kind of like POTUS.
So you have that going for you, which is nice.
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2001400ex said:
Yes Trump is a model of taking the high road. Point taken.pawz said:
No.insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
It sounds like someone who is smart enough to take the high-road. Something we are aware you know nothing about.
Kind of like POTUS.
So you have that going for you, which is nice.
Why would a party of abject losers crush it in the midterms when Trump keeps winning and they keep getting exposed as criminals & supporters of totalitarian government?dnc said:
Ummm, the Democrats are going to absolutely crush the midterms.DerekJohnson said:
Reading the tea leaves, this tells me they are terrified of the mid term elections. Why else would they make such desperate moves like this as well as YouTube Google overplaying their hand with tyrannical censorship? They're terrified of something.pawz said:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382341-fbi-raids-trump-lawyers-office
I'm just gonna grab some popcorn and wait ...
It's the script.
They have nothing to be terrified of.
I'm far more conservative than liberal, but this move tells me they actually have something on Trump. Which isn't exactly shocking. -
Yes the Trump admin does keep getting exposed as criminals and supporters of totalitarian government. I'm glad you finally came around. Really it depends how Rs can rile up their base to vote for that R next to their name. They want this gun control narrative to continue.oregonblitzkrieg said:2001400ex said:
Yes Trump is a model of taking the high road. Point taken.pawz said:
No.insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
It sounds like someone who is smart enough to take the high-road. Something we are aware you know nothing about.
Kind of like POTUS.
So you have that going for you, which is nice.
Why would a party of abject losers crush it in the midterms when Trump keeps winning and they keep getting exposed as criminals & supporters of totalitarian government?dnc said:
Ummm, the Democrats are going to absolutely crush the midterms.DerekJohnson said:
Reading the tea leaves, this tells me they are terrified of the mid term elections. Why else would they make such desperate moves like this as well as YouTube Google overplaying their hand with tyrannical censorship? They're terrified of something.pawz said:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382341-fbi-raids-trump-lawyers-office
I'm just gonna grab some popcorn and wait ...
It's the script.
They have nothing to be terrified of.
I'm far more conservative than liberal, but this move tells me they actually have something on Trump. Which isn't exactly shocking. -
That's.The. Joke.insinceredawg said:
POTUS is smart and takes the high road?pawz said:
No.insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
It sounds like someone who is smart enough to take the high-road. Something we are aware you know nothing about.
Kind of like POTUS.
So you have that going for you, which is nice.
Good to know you are such a quick study. Can't get anything by you. -
Not surprised you don't get itoregonblitzkrieg said:2001400ex said:
Yes Trump is a model of taking the high road. Point taken.pawz said:
No.insinceredawg said:Cohen sounds like someone who's ready to cooperate
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-fbi-raid/
"I am unhappy to have my personal residence and office raided. But I will tell you that members of the FBI that conducted the search and seizure were all extremely professional, courteous and respectful. And I thanked them at the conclusion," Cohen said in a phone conversation on Tuesday with CNN.
Asked if he was worried, Cohen said; "I would be lying to you if I told that I am not. Do I need this in my life? No. Do I want to be involved in this? No."
It sounds like someone who is smart enough to take the high-road. Something we are aware you know nothing about.
Kind of like POTUS.
So you have that going for you, which is nice.
Why would a party of abject losers crush it in the midterms when Trump keeps winning and they keep getting exposed as criminals & supporters of totalitarian government?dnc said:
Ummm, the Democrats are going to absolutely crush the midterms.DerekJohnson said:
Reading the tea leaves, this tells me they are terrified of the mid term elections. Why else would they make such desperate moves like this as well as YouTube Google overplaying their hand with tyrannical censorship? They're terrified of something.pawz said:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/382341-fbi-raids-trump-lawyers-office
I'm just gonna grab some popcorn and wait ...
It's the script.
They have nothing to be terrified of.
I'm far more conservative than liberal, but this move tells me they actually have something on Trump. Which isn't exactly shocking.
Watch and learn junior.
Some of us have been around long enough to have seen this shit play out multiple times.
Never question the script.
