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Cept the Bar has the right to ID everyone who walks in and refuse service for any reason. So while they may not be able to hang a sign that says "over 24 only", they certainly could refuse them service.YellowSnow said:
I'm having a hard time squaring this. It would be analogous to a bar or restaurant saying they won't serve someone a beer until they are 24. It's up to the state legislatures and Feds to pass laws regulating firearms, not private business making up their own "law".Swaye said:For those keeping track at home, you do have to bake a cake for gays even if it violates your religious beliefs, but you do NOT have to sell a .22 rifle to a 20 year old even if State and Federal law says they can legally purchase it. Sounds about right. Christ.
Need one of our fake lawyers to weigh in here.
Young cooglet used to head out to the Idaho state line when the age was 19 (when I was 17 with a Fake ID mind you) and they had one bar out there that would only take 21 or older. It was the 21 club by name
And this was just before insurance companies started to take over the world. So I'm guessing it wasn't to lower their insurance but more because they didn't want the youngest of the punks in their bar. SO that would be my precedent from 30 plus years ago in this issue. -
Dicks engages in interstate commerce
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That's where I draw the line. That place has gotten me through some dark tims.RaceBannon said:Dicks engages in interstate commerce
Sounds impressive, no?
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Everybody knows free market is code for Universal Basic Incomecreepycoug said:
That's not what "free market" means.2001400ex said:creepycoug said:
That was working until you said that. Safeway, all 20 billion of them, will make and sell anyone any cake they want. That's not the point. The point is that, when you are in public commerce, you rely, wittingly or not, on massive amounts of infrastructure common to us all, including the very road to your store. When you hang out a shingle, you serve the public and you don't pick and choose.2001400ex said:
Is it kinda like the NBA saying you can't be drafted until you are 19?YellowSnow said:
I'm having a hard time squaring this. It would be analogous to a bar or restaurant saying they won't serve someone a beer until they are 24. It's up to the state legislatures and Feds to pass laws regulating firearms, not private business making up their own "law".Swaye said:For those keeping track at home, you do have to bake a cake for gays even if it violates your religious beliefs, but you do NOT have to sell a .22 rifle to a 20 year old even if State and Federal law says they can legally purchase it. Sounds about right. Christ.
Need one of our fake lawyers to weigh in here.
I don't know. I think it's fucktarded for a cake baker to deny a gay couple and I think it's equally fucktarded for the gay couple to give a shit when there's 50 other people who can bake them a cake.
In that same vein, this kid can buy a gun from 50 other places, shut the fuck up and stop wasting government time and money over bullshit.
Cakes or guns, there's no difference on that score. If one is regulated and the other not, then the same answer, with regulated limitations that are rationally related to some public concern.
But no. Picking and choosing your retail customers isn't going to work. That could get really complicated for everyone real quickly.
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That's not what "free market" means.
Everybody knows free market is code for Universal Basic Income
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Not really...2001400ex said:
Like I said, that's how I am and that's how my burger shack is. If you have money I don't give a flying fuck who you are.creepycoug said:
That's not what "free market" means.2001400ex said:
Free market is free market. A business owner has a right to refuse service. I think it's stupid for business owners to deny service based on someone's sexual preference. But I think that's their choice and as long as they are respectful about it, they can be idiots if they choose.creepycoug said:
That was working until you said that. Safeway, all 20 billion of them, will make and sell anyone any cake they want. That's not the point. The point is that, when you are in public commerce, you rely, wittingly or not, on massive amounts of infrastructure common to us all, including the very road to your store. When you hang out a shingle, you serve the public and you don't pick and choose.2001400ex said:
Is it kinda like the NBA saying you can't be drafted until you are 19?YellowSnow said:
I'm having a hard time squaring this. It would be analogous to a bar or restaurant saying they won't serve someone a beer until they are 24. It's up to the state legislatures and Feds to pass laws regulating firearms, not private business making up their own "law".Swaye said:For those keeping track at home, you do have to bake a cake for gays even if it violates your religious beliefs, but you do NOT have to sell a .22 rifle to a 20 year old even if State and Federal law says they can legally purchase it. Sounds about right. Christ.
Need one of our fake lawyers to weigh in here.
I don't know. I think it's fucktarded for a cake baker to deny a gay couple and I think it's equally fucktarded for the gay couple to give a shit when there's 50 other people who can bake them a cake.
In that same vein, this kid can buy a gun from 50 other places, shut the fuck up and stop wasting government time and money over bullshit.
Cakes or guns, there's no difference on that score. If one is regulated and the other not, then the same answer, with regulated limitations that are rationally related to some public concern.
But no. Picking and choosing your retail customers isn't going to work. That could get really complicated for everyone real quickly.
So I agree that picking and choosing your customers is idiotic. But it's also idiotic for people to sue for that shit.
If I have legal tender and meat basic standards of public decency relative to where I am (I'm appropriately attired for the business setting and not otherwise being disruptive), then that's it. I don't need to qualify according to your biases. I would think this is one thing everyone here could agree upon.
Otherwise, it's "We don't serve Jews." Not gonna happen.
Our country is different than that tho. It wasn't long ago when businesses were FS and could deny someone based on color. That has been fixed fortunately, and we are still wading through the religious/sexual preference issue. That being said, I don't think Dick's and Walmart upping the age to 21 is an issue someone should sue over. It's a money grab that's going to waste a bunch of time and money.
This law suit will hopefully get the state government off their ass and decide.
Just like the gay couple, this kid isn't wasting his time. He's going to win, because by law the store is unlawfully discriminating against him. If the law says 18, a store can't just say "we're going to be 21". It doesn't work that way. This is just another example of how some stores misjudge the political atmosphere. Instead of LIPO they jump on board to what they think is a popular social agenda, to which there will be a consequence. In this case, they are going to make the young dude rich. -
I gave up on all this shit when they started passing laws saying you can't attempt to alter sexual preference but its OK to provide medical assistance to change your physical gender.
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I'm thinking the fake lawyers that work for these companies probably took a look at the legal implications of their decision and gave it the green light to go forward.
The young dude isn't getting rich, either. Where are his damages? Emotional distress? lol Quit being a faggot.
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It's a spectrum!LebamDawg said:I gave up on all this shit when they started passing laws saying you can't attempt to alter sexual preference but its OK to provide medical assistance to change your physical gender.
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Civil rights. The only damage needed.dflea said:I'm thinking the fake lawyers that work for these companies probably took a look at the legal implications of their decision and gave it the green light to go forward.
The young dude isn't getting rich, either. Where are his damages? Emotional distress? lol Quit being a faggot. -
Just like you!Pitchfork51 said:
It's a spectrum!LebamDawg said:I gave up on all this shit when they started passing laws saying you can't attempt to alter sexual preference but its OK to provide medical assistance to change your physical gender.
On the spectrum. -
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Just like you!Pitchfork51 said:
It's a spectrum!LebamDawg said:I gave up on all this shit when they started passing laws saying you can't attempt to alter sexual preference but its OK to provide medical assistance to change your physical gender.
On the spectrum. -
Not being a faggot can be really damaging to someone who really needs to be a faggot. We have numerous examples on these boreds.dflea said:I'm thinking the fake lawyers that work for these companies probably took a look at the legal implications of their decision and gave it the green light to go forward.
The young dude isn't getting rich, either. Where are his damages? Emotional distress? lol Quit being a faggot. -
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Just like you!Pitchfork51 said:
It's a spectrum!LebamDawg said:I gave up on all this shit when they started passing laws saying you can't attempt to alter sexual preference but its OK to provide medical assistance to change your physical gender.
On the spectrum.
