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pawz
pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,453 Founders Club
It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    Funny how you blame the Muslim religion but not the culture.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited February 2018
    17 children are dead in Florida thanks to Obama and his creation of police No-Go- Zones in Broward County schools.

    “So they reclassified about a dozen problems as being potentially police related. Not surprisingly the rate of arrests plummeted. If you don’t arrest kids for things, then your arrest rates will go down which they did [in Broward]. They got really great public attention for it. The Obama administration brought them in and said they were a national model now that they’re getting their arrest rates down.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/26/promise-agreement-parkland-shooting/
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    17 children are dead in Florida thanks to Obama and his creation of police No-Go- Zones in Broward County schools.

    “So they reclassified about a dozen problems as being potentially police related. Not surprisingly the rate of arrests plummeted. If you don’t arrest kids for things, then your arrest rates will go down which they did [in Broward]. They got really great public attention for it. The Obama administration brought them in and said they were a national model now that they’re getting their arrest rates down.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/26/promise-agreement-parkland-shooting/

    I was waiting for someone to blame Obama for killing those 17 kids. Congrats, you did it.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    When 17 children are murdered. People start asking questions. It didn’t take long to find the truth and a direct link to another Obama policy.

    Educating youth to accept Police no-go-zones, one school at a time.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,453 Founders Club
    edited February 2018
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    Funny how you blame the Muslim religion but not the culture.
    Not that we needed the verification, but thanks for reconfirming - again - you're the dumbest mother fucker anywhere.

    Do try to stay on topic.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    Funny how you blame the Muslim religion but not the culture.
    Not that we needed the verification, but thanks for reconfirming - again - you're the dumbest mother fucker anywhere.

    Do try to stay on topic.
    It's clear you don't see your own hypocrisy.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    Funny how you blame the Muslim religion but not the culture.
    “Just a bit outside”
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,868 Founders Club
    edited February 2018
    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards. Why would we listen to them?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards. Why would we listen to them?

    The school essentially had an armed guard.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    Funny how you blame the Muslim religion but not the culture.
    Not that we needed the verification, but thanks for reconfirming - again - you're the dumbest mother fucker anywhere.

    Do try to stay on topic.
    It's clear you don't see your own hypocrisy.
    He started the thread. How fucking retarded are you? Serious question.
    What does him starting the thread have to do with anything?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,868 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards. Why would we listen to them?

    The school essentially had an armed guard.
    No it didn't asshole

    It had a fucking coward

    We're not talking "essentially". Congress doesn't have an essential armed guard

    Let me reiterate

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards. Why would we listen to them?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,057

    2001400ex said:

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards. Why would we listen to them?

    The school essentially had an armed guard.
    No it didn't asshole

    It had a fucking coward

    We're not talking "essentially". Congress doesn't have an essential armed guard

    Let me reiterate

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards. Why would we listen to them?


    yeah...but how are we? going to guard against cane-beatings in the Senate?


  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,737 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards. Why would we listen to them?

    The school essentially had an armed guard.
    It had an armed coward. He was probably put there because he didn't meet standards elsewhere so they stuck him at the school.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    doogie said:

    When 17 children are murdered. People start asking questions. It didn’t take long to find the truth and a direct link to another Obama policy.

    Educating youth to accept Police no-go-zones, one school at a time.

    Brilliant analysis per usual.

    You would have been a Nazi.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    edited February 2018

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards.
    Why would we listen to them?

    This is correct.

    One other question: I thought the Gun-Free school zones shit started in 1990. What did Obama do?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,737 Standard Supporter
    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,737 Standard Supporter
    Cul
    ture. Sure as hell.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    Sadly, there is some truth to this point.

    But, abortion is regulated, and for good reason. You don't want just anyone up in there.

    Should gun ownership be regulated? Should it be a little harder, and take a little longer, to buy one? Regardless of the black market.

    With literally millions of words typed on this forum on this issue, the questions really comes down the that one. Only stupid people advocate for a ban on all weapons and door to door. It's so stupid that I see it as more of a Red Herring for the gun freaks.

    The question is better regulation or no?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,868 Founders Club

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards.
    Why would we listen to them?

    This is correct.

    One other question: I thought the Gun-Free school zones shit started in 1990. What did Obama do?
    I didn't mention Obama

    The first gun free zone I recall was at a Group Health clinic where I was pimping some flooring. I saw the sign and laughed to myself not out loud.

    And that was quite awhile back. Probably was the 90's
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards.
    Why would we listen to them?

    This is correct.

    One other question: I thought the Gun-Free school zones shit started in 1990. What did Obama do?
    I didn't mention Obama

    The first gun free zone I recall was at a Group Health clinic where I was pimping some flooring. I saw the sign and laughed to myself not out loud.

    And that was quite awhile back. Probably was the 90's
    Yeah, I only flew by another poast an misread it. Nevermind.

    Back to the poont: yes, armed guards. yes, demand better performance. yes, study the issue. alienation? SSRIs? Video Games. Whatever. Put the Harvard people on it. Those fuckers figure out everything it seems.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,453 Founders Club
    edited February 2018

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    He ded.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    obviously the answer is all of the above. So in a free society do those of us who enjoy violent media, drugs, porn, and guns and can do so without committing mass murder want to give them all up for safety?

    I don't think so. I have seen a lot of people who make their living from entertainment giving a spirited defense of the First Amendment and I don't blame them any more than those who defend the Second Amendment.

    So since we aren't going to solve the problem from that angle put some fucking guards in the school like we do everywhere else

    Retards here who spent the week claiming armed guards won't work are fucking retards.
    Why would we listen to them?

    This is correct.

    One other question: I thought the Gun-Free school zones shit started in 1990. What did Obama do?
    I didn't mention Obama

    The first gun free zone I recall was at a Group Health clinic where I was pimping some flooring. I saw the sign and laughed to myself not out loud.

    And that was quite awhile back. Probably was the 90's
    Yeah, I only flew by another poast an misread it. Nevermind.

    Back to the poont: yes, armed guards. yes, demand better performance. yes, study the issue. alienation? SSRIs? Video Games. Whatever. Put the Harvard people on it. Those fuckers figure out everything it seems.
    @BobMcNamaraDwag68 true?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
    Fair enough. Nothing wrong with acknowledging spirituality in the abstract sense of it. The more organized and institutionalized rule-drive, the worse.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,868 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    It's not our possession of guns, it's our culture that must change. Freud intoned: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. As such, attacking a 'tool' is a band-aid for a failing social society.

    From over prescription of psychotropic medication; to the violence propagated on TV, movies and video games; to social media's inherent mouth piece for narcissism; to society's vanquishing of spiritual, faith based principles (east, west or in between).

    If we really aim to keep our children safe, we must focus on the deep-rooted cause of an assailants anguish, not his tool of destruction. And to do that, we must focus inwardly on what we have allowed ourselves to become. Unfortunately self-reflection in our society is as far from en vogue as is possible to imagine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-OSyQkPXM







    *in before boobs' flagging

    I agree w/ this. I don't agree with the bold part. The road to hell is paved with fairy tales about a better life waiting for us when this one's over.
    Meditation techniques and other breathing exercises can be taught non-denominationally.
    Fair enough. Nothing wrong with acknowledging spirituality in the abstract sense of it. The more organized and institutionalized rule-drive, the worse.
    I kind of chuckle when someone thanks the "Universe". Its like I don't want to say God but I want to thank some mysterious entity but I'm an atheist so I'll just sound stupid and say universe instead.

    I imagine that our atheist friends here find it as silly as I do.

    I'm the kind of guy that insists that atheists be pure in their atheism. There is nothing to thank, no hidden hand, no force no nothing.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    For the liberals. Your own logic should apply to guns as well.



    First poont: what liberal actually wants to outlaw guns?

    Second poont: conservatives actually want to outlaw abortion and think that'll stop abortions from happening. Just like banning drugs stopped people from using drugs.