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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    Never owned/shot a gun because I am nothing more than a cowardly pussy, but I really don't think their legality is nearly as big a problem as the technological/media upbringing of the current and future generations.

    I'm not going to pretend to be the psychoanalytic master of all, and if my post history means anything i'm probably one of the more mentally unstable poasters on the board, but we created this monster and glorified it in the process.

    For a dude on the edge, it's the cool thing to do. I don't know what the solution is.

    So, you're what my dad called "a Punter."
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2018

    The strict constructionists hate you now.

    PS: that's kinda the point. Spending time thinking about what someone was thinking 200 years ago lost its appeal about 100 years ago. Principles to be applied in the age in which they are considered. And today, the idea that your gun collection is a legitimate buffer against a modern-day government and military is frankly silly and contrived.

    When everyone had the same, inaccurate, hard af to load, pea shooters and a few family and friends could put up a fight against a military regiment? Yeah, different story.

    Look, Cuog: You and I both know it's the "well regulated militia" that provides the avenue of redress for keeping guns out of the hands of crazies, but the fucking libs keep making it about the guns & ammo, instead of the sanity of the fucking people who shoot them.

    So, why doesn't anyone listen to me and appropriate my brilliance? Because the fucking authoritarian, big government libs don't understand shit about guns or gun culture, and they hate the 2nd amendment with a passion.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Sledog said:

    Which of these would have stopped the shooting? None of them.
    Way to miss the first fucking sentence. You're retarded. This isn't hard.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,841 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2018
    2001400ex said:

    Wut? That's right, contrary to what I watch on the history channel, they did have fully automatic weapons in the 1700s when the Constitution was written. And tanks and attack helicopters.
    You better read what the founders had to say as it seems your history teachers sucked ass.

    Why is this a new, last 20 years or so, problem Hondo? Just an FYI the AR15 has been around for over 50 years.

    The implement isn't the problem. As I have pointed out you're not screaming to outlaw large trucks. Evil and crazy exist and the only way to stop evil crazy people when they do either of these, or a number of other acts, is to shoot them. HTH
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    You better read what the founders had to say as it seems your history teachers sucked ass.

    Why is this a new, last 20 years or so, problem Hondo? Just an FYI the AR15 has been around for over 50 years.

    The implement isn't the problem. As I have pointed out you're not screaming to outlaw large trucks. Evil and crazy exist and the only way to stop evil crazy people when they do either of these, or a number of other acts, is to shoot them. HTH
    I'm not screaming to outlaw guns either dumbfuck.
  • AlexisAlexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,273 Swaye's Wigwam

    I like the way you think. (Faggy Wink ;))
    Wanna Cyber?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,841 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    I'm not screaming to outlaw guns either dumbfuck.
    You always are. That's like saying you aren't in the tank for Hillary.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    Hondo Shrillz for Hillz.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    Sledog said:

    Move to fucking Australia!
    Won't help.



    They have internet in Australia now too.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,903 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Semi and full auto firearms have been around for well over a hundred years. Prior to 1932 you could walk in to your local gun shop or hardware store and buy a Thompson sub machine gun or a Browning BAR.

    My point is guns haven't really changed at all but somehow we have. Kids used to take their guns to school in rural areas so they could hunt to and from school and were usually racked in the school office. We didn't have school shootings. What's different? The way children are raised? Massive use of prescription psychotropic drugs? Kids on Ritalin? The thought of being remembered for their act?

    I don't know. There are more than 8 million AR 15's out there and millions more of the many other various semi autos. The government doesn't know where they are. You can not go get them unless someone is willing to search every home in the entire country and that won't work either. You can't outlaw what you can't control or find. Mexico cops just recovered a big stash of AK's, ammo, grenades and claymore mines near our border. Hundreds of thousands of people sneak in to our country every year. So those that say "legalize drugs we can't stop them" think this stupid horse shit will work.

    It's a people problem not a gun problem.

    I typed this long ass post on my phone so don't bitch!

    So a Thompson Sub Machine cost about $200 in 1920 which in 2018 USD is about $2,600. What's an AR run these days? $600 - $900 sound about right? Nobody but gangsters or the military could afford them back then so they never became widespread amongst the civilian population.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,841 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2018

    So a Thompson Sub Machine cost about $200 in 1920 which in 2018 USD is about $2,600. What's an AR run these days? $600 - $900 sound about right? Nobody but gangsters or the military could afford them back then so they never became widespread amongst the civilian population.
    I see so now it's about cost? Bonnie and Clyde didn't pay for their Thompson's or BAR's (Clyde was a BAR fan). They stole them from National Guard Armories. The Capone type gangsters simply bought them at the store.

    Why not ban the FBI and police as they dropped the ball and could have prevented this.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/16/alleged-florida-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz-was-reported-to-fbi-cops-school-but-warning-signs-missed.html
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    I see so now it's about cost? Bonnie and Clyde didn't pay for their Thompson's or BAR's (Clyde was a BAR fan). They stole them from National Guard Armories. The Capone type gangsters simply bought them at the store.

    Why not ban the FBI and police as they dropped the ball and could have prevented this.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/16/alleged-florida-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz-was-reported-to-fbi-cops-school-but-warning-signs-missed.html
    Curious. Who runs the FBI now?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,841 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Curious. Who runs the FBI now?
    Obama. His plants are still screwing shit up.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Obama. His plants are still screwing shit up.
    Trump hasn't had tim fucktarded POTD.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,841 Standard Supporter
    All these guns we speak of are illegal in France and most other Euro nations. Doesn' stop mass shooting there. Paris was a biggie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,274
    Sledog said:

    Obama. His plants are still screwing shit up.
    And he's back to the guy that needs to be set on fucking fire and then snuffed out with a steamroller.

  • BlackieBlackie Member Posts: 499
    2001400ex said:

    Are you reading the Quran or some shit? Cause that's not in the Bible I read.
    Exodus 22:2....
    If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,043
    My bumper sticker says 2 Kings 9:20
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    You better read what the founders had to say as it seems your history teachers sucked ass.

    Why is this a new, last 20 years or so, problem Hondo? Just an FYI the AR15 has been around for over 50 years.

    The implement isn't the problem. As I have pointed out you're not screaming to outlaw large trucks. Evil and crazy exist and the only way to stop evil crazy people when they do either of these, or a number of other acts, is to shoot them. HTH
    You had me but you're losing me Sledog. You're making a Gary Bauer argument about changing hearts and minds, and that's a fucking loser all the way.

    We can easily restrict the availability of high-cap magazines, bump stocks, and shit like that won't necessarily prevent shootings of this type, but can reduce the impact and deadliness we are seeing far too often. And none of it will stop you and I from hunting, shooting, protecting ourselves, or even restrict us from anything necessary, except blowing a watermelon to smithereens for fun. (Which will piss throbber off, I'm pretty sure).
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