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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,671 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
    If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
    If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
    @Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,671 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
    If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
    @Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
    I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
    If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
    @Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
    I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
    So you want California to be dumb and poor?

    We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,015

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
    If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
    @Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
    I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
    So you want California to be dumb and poor?

    We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    edited January 2018

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
    If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
    @Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
    I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
    So you want California to be dumb and poor?

    We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment
    14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.

    Thanks for proving my point.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,671 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.

    If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.

    Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?

    Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
    I'm sorry you hate maff too.

    One word: states' rights.
    So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.

    Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.

    Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.

    Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.

    Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.

    My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.

    Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
    About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.
    And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.

    But other than that... Spot on as always.
    Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?

    Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
    Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
    The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
    Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
    No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
    If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
    @Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
    I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
    So you want California to be dumb and poor?

    We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
    California is mud fence stupid at the moment.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,052 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2018

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.
    So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.

    The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.

    For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886

    And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!

    Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.


    Nega, please.

    Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.
    So you're in favor of regressive sales taxes that also encourage the poor to go into debt buying things they don't need.

    Yes. Someone's gotta buy the shit, and I pay enough in taxes. I don't need to help my brother kewg live out his golden years in comfort down in Salem any more than I already have.

    Let me be clear: I want to keep what I earn in the FREE market place (real or pretend), and I want to share it with NOBODY. I don't care about other people's problems.

    I'm a REAL conservative. Most of these bananas are union-loving protectionist brown shirt commies who want my stuff w/o having to work for it.
    You left out "who have nothing to offer that anyone wants, so fail in the marketplace and must work for large employers or government to avoid starvation and death."
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,326

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!

    Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?

    The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.

    To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.
    So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.

    The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.

    For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886

    And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!

    Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.


    Nega, please.

    Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.
    So you're in favor of regressive sales taxes that also encourage the poor to go into debt buying things they don't need.

    Yes. Someone's gotta buy the shit, and I pay enough in taxes. I don't need to help my brother kewg live out his golden years in comfort down in Salem any more than I already have.

    Let me be clear: I want to keep what I earn in the FREE market place (real or pretend), and I want to share it with NOBODY. I don't care about other people's problems.

    I'm a REAL conservative. Most of these bananas are union-loving protectionist brown shirt commies who want my stuff w/o having to work for it.
    You left out "who have nothing to offer that anyone wants, so fail in the marketplace and must work for large employers or government to avoid starvation and death."
    Two things: you bolded the wrong section; and no, I did not.

    I stopped working for my retirement over 5 years ago my good freng. This is now for the kids ... so that come what may, they will have the means to educate my grandchildren properly and forever ensure that there be no Kewg in my line. That's pretty much all I have to care about.

    As I said: I'm a real conservative. Present day enthusiasm for tax cuts and street fighters, while admirable, overlooks the compromises it has taken to get them. I'm a Reagan / Bush I republican. We don't like unions, we don't like barriers to the workings of free market economics and we like the freedom to win and live like it, even if at the expense of others.m We also fundamentally distrust the Russians because, well, you know. Missiles to the Persians is one thing. Getting in bed with the Red Scare is another. It's in their DNA.

    If you can't get all that, then you're part of the new populism, and you will soon enough be dispatched. There's a McCarthy-esque storm a comin' honcho, and Red hunting season will soon be upon us. Find your hiding place punk. You can't have my stuff.