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People need to pay their fair share of taxes
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It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around. -
All this time I just thought Mississippi was a shithole cause the blicks.creepycoug said:
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around. -
raysiss.2001400ex said:
All this time I just thought Mississippi was a shithole cause the blicks.creepycoug said:
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around. -
Liberal ruled states and cities are the most poverty ridden and violent places in the country. You might look some of that shit up before making stupid statements.creepycoug said:
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around. -
The northeast, west coast and mid-Atlantic. And your favorite place, California. What do they have in common?Sledog said:
Liberal ruled states and cities are the most poverty ridden and violent places in the country. You might look some of that shit up before making stupid statements.creepycoug said:
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around. -
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.HoustonHusky said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainmentTierbsHsotBoobs said:
So you want California to be dumb and poor?Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
Thanks for proving my point.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts... -
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?HoustonHusky said:
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.HoustonHusky said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainmentTierbsHsotBoobs said:
So you want California to be dumb and poor?Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
Thanks for proving my point.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you? -
CirrhosisDawg said:
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?HoustonHusky said:
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.HoustonHusky said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainmentTierbsHsotBoobs said:
So you want California to be dumb and poor?Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
Thanks for proving my point.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
But then everyone will want to get away from the DC too
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Lotsa fags?creepycoug said:
The northeast, west coast and mid-Atlantic. And your favorite place, California. What do they have in common?Sledog said:
Liberal ruled states and cities are the most poverty ridden and violent places in the country. You might look some of that shit up before making stupid statements.creepycoug said:
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around. -
Go and fuck off. Provide your own defense. You'll be Mexifornia in 20 years, 'cause all you faggy libbies can't even hold a gun without pissing your pants.CirrhosisDawg said:
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?HoustonHusky said:
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.HoustonHusky said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainmentTierbsHsotBoobs said:
So you want California to be dumb and poor?Sledog said:
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!CirrhosisDawg said:
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.Sledog said:
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.CirrhosisDawg said:
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.Sledog said:
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.CirrhosisDawg said:
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.salemcoog said:
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.CirrhosisDawg said:
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?salemcoog said:
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds.CirrhosisDawg said:
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.PurpleThrobber said:
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.creepycoug said:
One word: states' rights.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
Thanks for proving my point.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
