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Is DAT the closest thing to the "Rocket"?
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He was a dogkiller in college?Steve_Bowman said:Vick is a piece of shit human garbage and shouldn't be given credit for anything.
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I'll take (in order) Reggie Bush, DAT, then Rocket.
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Bush wasn't an electric ST Guy. Ismail was Desmond Howard with speed (Howard won a Heisman). I believe DAT could win a heismman next yearCollegeDoog said:Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Certainly better than DAT. Never watched "the rocket" play.
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Yes, he was. I remember Bush having some great punt returns. The one against Oregon State in the fog comes to mind. He had one for a TD against UW as well. Howard and Ismail were a little before my time, and I am sure they were electric, but Reggie Bush was pretty damn good as a punt returner.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Bush wasn't an electric ST Guy. Ismail was Desmond Howard with speed (Howard won a Heisman). I believe DAT could win a heismman next yearCollegeDoog said:Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Certainly better than DAT. Never watched "the rocket" play.
I am curious to see DAT this year. He should have an expanded role now that Barner is gone, but I wonder how many touches he will get. The Heisman has gone to a QB in 11 of the past 12 years, so I doubt he will win it. He is an incredible player though.
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Are you fucking kidding me? Fast forward to 1:35.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Bush wasn't an electric ST Guy. Ismail was Desmond Howard with speed (Howard won a Heisman). I believe DAT could win a heismman next yearCollegeDoog said:Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Certainly better than DAT. Never watched "the rocket" play.
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Ismael was explosive, and changed games as a return man, but come on, he had 9 total TDs from scrimmage in 3 years.
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No one was more electric than Jack Lockner when he walked across lake washington to save us all.
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Wow. That comment is S14AFS.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Bush wasn't an electric ST Guy.CollegeDoog said:Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Certainly better than DAT. Never watched "the rocket" play.
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Touchdown Timmy > Rocket
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Perhaps. Although with college I think stats seem like a silly thing to point to considering no one is saying Timmy Chang is one of the greatest players ever. Vick performance against FSU in the national championship was the greatest thing I've ever seen. Vince Young was great against USC but USCs defense was awful that year. Florida State had Tech beat at every position but quarterback and their defense was great.RoadDawg55 said:
Vick was an amazing talent, but he didn't put up the numbers to match up with some of the other guys who have been mentioned.TheKobeStopper said:This thread is worthless. Michael Vick is the answer to everything and its not even close.
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Sadly that's not even close to being his dumbest comment. Check all his SEC ramblings.BAMAdawg10 said:
Wow. That comment is S14AFS.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Bush wasn't an electric ST Guy.CollegeDoog said:Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Certainly better than DAT. Never watched "the rocket" play.
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TheKobeStopper said:
Perhaps. Although with college I think stats seem like a silly thing to point to considering no one is saying Timmy Chang is one of the greatest players ever. Vick performance against FSU in the national championship was the greatest thing I've ever seen. Vince Young was great against USC but USCs defense was awful that year. Florida State had Tech beat at every position but quarterback and their defense was great.RoadDawg55 said:
Vick was an amazing talent, but he didn't put up the numbers to match up with some of the other guys who have been mentioned.TheKobeStopper said:This thread is worthless. Michael Vick is the answer to everything and its not even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk4IS67qXpQ
Pretty much that was a really good Florida State team. If you look at Frank Beamer's coaching at VaTech you'll quickly notice the Vick years.
1987 Virginia Tech 2–9
1988 Virginia Tech 3–8
1989 Virginia Tech 6–4–1
1990 Virginia Tech 6–5
Virginia Tech Hokies (Big East Conference) (1991–2003)
1991 Virginia Tech 5–6 1–0 ‡
1992 Virginia Tech 2–8–1 1–4 ‡
1993 Virginia Tech 9–3 4–3 4th W Independence 20 22
1994 Virginia Tech 8–4 5–2 2nd L Gator† 24
1995 Virginia Tech 10–2 6–1 T–1st W Sugar† 9 10
1996 Virginia Tech 10–2 6–1 T–1st L Orange† 12 13
1997 Virginia Tech 7–5 5–2 2nd L Gator
1998 Virginia Tech 9–3 5–2 T–2nd W Music City 19 23
1999 Virginia Tech 11–1 7–0 1st L Sugar† 3 2
2000 Virginia Tech 11–1 6–1 2nd W Gator 6 6
2001 Virginia Tech 8–4 4–3 T–3rd L Gator 18 18
2002 Virginia Tech 10–4 3–4 T–4th W San Francisco 14 18
2003 Virginia Tech 8–5 4–3 4th L Insight
Virginia Tech Hokies (Atlantic Coast Conference) (2004–present)
2004 Virginia Tech 10–3 7–1 1st L Sugar† 10 10
2005 Virginia Tech 11–2 7–1 1st (Coastal) W Gator 7 7
2006 Virginia Tech 10–3 6–2 2nd (Coastal) L Chick-fil-A 18 19
2007 Virginia Tech 11–3 7–1 1st (Coastal) L Orange† 9 9
2008 Virginia Tech 10–4 5–3 T–1st (Coastal) W Orange† 14 15
2009 Virginia Tech 10–3 6–2 2nd (Coastal) W Chick-fil-A 10 10
2010 Virginia Tech 11–3 8–0 1st (Coastal) L Orange† 15 16
2011 Virginia Tech 11–3 7–1 1st (Coastal) L Sugar† 17 21
2012 Virginia Tech 7–6 4–4 4th (Coastal) W Russell Athletic -
Beamer = Brown = Bellotti
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For a guy who is always talking shit about how much he knows about football, he sure posts a lot of dumb shit. He also predicted Cal to win the North last year and posted last week that Talia Crichton matured into a good player at UW.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Sadly that's not even close to being his dumbest comment. Check all his SEC ramblings.BAMAdawg10 said:
Wow. That comment is S14AFS.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Bush wasn't an electric ST Guy.CollegeDoog said:Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Certainly better than DAT. Never watched "the rocket" play.
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I noticed in life if you have to constantly tell someone you are good or knowledgeable at something you really aren't.RoadDawg55 said:
For a guy who is always talking shit about how much he knows about football, he sure posts a lot of dumb shit. He also predicted Cal to win the North last year and posted last week that Talia Crichton matured into a good player at UW.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Sadly that's not even close to being his dumbest comment. Check all his SEC ramblings.BAMAdawg10 said:
Wow. That comment is S14AFS.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Bush wasn't an electric ST Guy.CollegeDoog said:Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Certainly better than DAT. Never watched "the rocket" play.
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It's worth noting that in Vicks only other loss, to Miami his second year, he had a badly sprained ankle and could barely walk.He_Needs_More_Time said:TheKobeStopper said:
Perhaps. Although with college I think stats seem like a silly thing to point to considering no one is saying Timmy Chang is one of the greatest players ever. Vick performance against FSU in the national championship was the greatest thing I've ever seen. Vince Young was great against USC but USCs defense was awful that year. Florida State had Tech beat at every position but quarterback and their defense was great.RoadDawg55 said:
Vick was an amazing talent, but he didn't put up the numbers to match up with some of the other guys who have been mentioned.TheKobeStopper said:This thread is worthless. Michael Vick is the answer to everything and its not even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk4IS67qXpQ
Pretty much that was a really good Florida State team. If you look at Frank Beamer's coaching at VaTech you'll quickly notice the Vick years.
1987 Virginia Tech 2–9
1988 Virginia Tech 3–8
1989 Virginia Tech 6–4–1
1990 Virginia Tech 6–5
Virginia Tech Hokies (Big East Conference) (1991–2003)
1991 Virginia Tech 5–6 1–0 ‡
1992 Virginia Tech 2–8–1 1–4 ‡
1993 Virginia Tech 9–3 4–3 4th W Independence 20 22
1994 Virginia Tech 8–4 5–2 2nd L Gator† 24
1995 Virginia Tech 10–2 6–1 T–1st W Sugar† 9 10
1996 Virginia Tech 10–2 6–1 T–1st L Orange† 12 13
1997 Virginia Tech 7–5 5–2 2nd L Gator
1998 Virginia Tech 9–3 5–2 T–2nd W Music City 19 23
1999 Virginia Tech 11–1 7–0 1st L Sugar† 3 2
2000 Virginia Tech 11–1 6–1 2nd W Gator 6 6
2001 Virginia Tech 8–4 4–3 T–3rd L Gator 18 18
2002 Virginia Tech 10–4 3–4 T–4th W San Francisco 14 18
2003 Virginia Tech 8–5 4–3 4th L Insight
Virginia Tech Hokies (Atlantic Coast Conference) (2004–present)
2004 Virginia Tech 10–3 7–1 1st L Sugar† 10 10
2005 Virginia Tech 11–2 7–1 1st (Coastal) W Gator 7 7
2006 Virginia Tech 10–3 6–2 2nd (Coastal) L Chick-fil-A 18 19
2007 Virginia Tech 11–3 7–1 1st (Coastal) L Orange† 9 9
2008 Virginia Tech 10–4 5–3 T–1st (Coastal) W Orange† 14 15
2009 Virginia Tech 10–3 6–2 2nd (Coastal) W Chick-fil-A 10 10
2010 Virginia Tech 11–3 8–0 1st (Coastal) L Orange† 15 16
2011 Virginia Tech 11–3 7–1 1st (Coastal) L Sugar† 17 21
2012 Virginia Tech 7–6 4–4 4th (Coastal) W Russell Athletic -
Worth noting to your worth noting Vick had two losses in college. One was to national championship Florida State the other to a Miami team that was in the middle of a 34 game winning streak.TheKobeStopper said:
It's worth noting that in Vicks only other loss, to Miami his second year, he had a badly sprained ankle and could barely walk.He_Needs_More_Time said:TheKobeStopper said:
Perhaps. Although with college I think stats seem like a silly thing to point to considering no one is saying Timmy Chang is one of the greatest players ever. Vick performance against FSU in the national championship was the greatest thing I've ever seen. Vince Young was great against USC but USCs defense was awful that year. Florida State had Tech beat at every position but quarterback and their defense was great.RoadDawg55 said:
Vick was an amazing talent, but he didn't put up the numbers to match up with some of the other guys who have been mentioned.TheKobeStopper said:This thread is worthless. Michael Vick is the answer to everything and its not even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk4IS67qXpQ
Pretty much that was a really good Florida State team. If you look at Frank Beamer's coaching at VaTech you'll quickly notice the Vick years.
1987 Virginia Tech 2–9
1988 Virginia Tech 3–8
1989 Virginia Tech 6–4–1
1990 Virginia Tech 6–5
Virginia Tech Hokies (Big East Conference) (1991–2003)
1991 Virginia Tech 5–6 1–0 ‡
1992 Virginia Tech 2–8–1 1–4 ‡
1993 Virginia Tech 9–3 4–3 4th W Independence 20 22
1994 Virginia Tech 8–4 5–2 2nd L Gator† 24
1995 Virginia Tech 10–2 6–1 T–1st W Sugar† 9 10
1996 Virginia Tech 10–2 6–1 T–1st L Orange† 12 13
1997 Virginia Tech 7–5 5–2 2nd L Gator
1998 Virginia Tech 9–3 5–2 T–2nd W Music City 19 23
1999 Virginia Tech 11–1 7–0 1st L Sugar† 3 2
2000 Virginia Tech 11–1 6–1 2nd W Gator 6 6
2001 Virginia Tech 8–4 4–3 T–3rd L Gator 18 18
2002 Virginia Tech 10–4 3–4 T–4th W San Francisco 14 18
2003 Virginia Tech 8–5 4–3 4th L Insight
Virginia Tech Hokies (Atlantic Coast Conference) (2004–present)
2004 Virginia Tech 10–3 7–1 1st L Sugar† 10 10
2005 Virginia Tech 11–2 7–1 1st (Coastal) W Gator 7 7
2006 Virginia Tech 10–3 6–2 2nd (Coastal) L Chick-fil-A 18 19
2007 Virginia Tech 11–3 7–1 1st (Coastal) L Orange† 9 9
2008 Virginia Tech 10–4 5–3 T–1st (Coastal) W Orange† 14 15
2009 Virginia Tech 10–3 6–2 2nd (Coastal) W Chick-fil-A 10 10
2010 Virginia Tech 11–3 8–0 1st (Coastal) L Orange† 15 16
2011 Virginia Tech 11–3 7–1 1st (Coastal) L Sugar† 17 21
2012 Virginia Tech 7–6 4–4 4th (Coastal) W Russell Athletic -
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