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Just think how awesome Mediocre Mike would have been if he hadn't had to worry about the Mrs. shining the helmet of every Nike salesman in a 3 state region.dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
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The power ball is being a school in Los Angeles, like 3 states in the South or being Ohio State.WilburHooksHands said:
Theyre not just another program, they're a shit program that hit the booster powerball for a billion fucking dollars.creepycoug said:
Da doog run run run, da doog run run.dnc said:
Oregon didn't have a duckade long run of anything except dominating a shit UW team.oregonblitzkrieg said:"Kelly is a college winner until he's not." It's funny watching all these doogs yank Kelly's schlong like a bunch of horny schoolgirls. They're the same ones that continually trash Oregon's duckade long run of excellence.
They had a four year run of excellence with Chip at the helm, so good that they still had one great year and a really good one left in them under Helfrich.
A great six year run, all thanks to Chip.
Oregon was mediocre before Chip got there as OC and they became mediocre after Chip's players were gone.
Oregon didn't have a run. Chip did.
Chip's an incredible coach. Oregon's just another program.
Jesus.
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To me "Mediocre" is a C. "Good" is a B, and "Excellent" is an A.dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
Coaching in the league kind of sucks right now. There's no Carrolls, Harbaughs, un-burned out Tedfords, kings of Poop Island, or good Dennis Ericksons right now.
Bellotti was a B coach with a couple of B+ years. He got good results from the talent he had, usually overperformed his recruiting, and learned from his mistakes.
At major conference programs, Bellotti and Peterman have averaged about 9 wins per season, and Bellotti did it with one fewer game than Peterman, for the most part.
Bellotti had one losing record in 14 seasons at a program that had finished below .500 in 18 of the previous 30 years before he became head coach.
And Peterman's finished top 25 7 times, same as Iron Mike, over roughly the same amount of tim.
So who in the league would be better? Peterman? Shaw? the Pirate?
Peterman and Shaw are probably better than Iron Mike but not be a super-wide margin, and Shaw is Shaw. We're going to see what Peterman is really made of over the next 2-3 years.
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Holy quook alert. Pete has a better winning percentage "at major programs" despite winning the same amount of games per year and getting an extra game.AZDuck said:
To me "Mediocre" is a C. "Good" is a B, and "Excellent" is an A.dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
Coaching in the league kind of sucks right now. There's no Carrolls, Harbaughs, un-burned out Tedfords, kings of Poop Island, or good Dennis Ericksons right now.
Bellotti was a B coach with a couple of B+ years. He got good results from the talent he had, usually overperformed his recruiting, and learned from his mistakes.
At major conference programs, Bellotti and Peterman have averaged about 9 wins per season, and Bellotti did it with one fewer game than Peterman, for the most part.
Bellotti had one losing record in 14 seasons at a program that had finished below .500 in 18 of the previous 30 years before he became head coach.
And Peterman's finished top 25 7 times, same as Iron Mike, over roughly the same amount of tim.
So who in the league would be better? Peterman? Shaw? the Pirate?
Peterman and Shaw are probably better than Iron Mike but not be a super-wide margin, and Shaw is Shaw. We're going to see what Peterman is really made of over the next 2-3 years.
Your narrative sucks harder than your maff.
Oh and they both coached before they were at a major program and Pete > Bellotti there.
If you really think the average of Pete's first four years at UW is the average of what he'll accomplish at UW then sure, he's about Bellotti's level of a mediocre coach.
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UW Pete has as many top 5 finishes as Bellotti did in 11 less years.
UW Pete has as many outright conference titles as Bellotti did in 11 years.
Overall Pete has more BCS wins than Bellotti did in two less years (and that's just counting Bellotti at Oregon).
Only a Quook would look at their resumes and say they're on the same level.
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No, no he's notdnc said:
Holy quook alert. Pete has a better winning percentage "at major programs" despite winning the same amount of games per year and getting an extra game.AZDuck said:
To me "Mediocre" is a C. "Good" is a B, and "Excellent" is an A.dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
Coaching in the league kind of sucks right now. There's no Carrolls, Harbaughs, un-burned out Tedfords, kings of Poop Island, or good Dennis Ericksons right now.
Bellotti was a B coach with a couple of B+ years. He got good results from the talent he had, usually overperformed his recruiting, and learned from his mistakes.
At major conference programs, Bellotti and Peterman have averaged about 9 wins per season, and Bellotti did it with one fewer game than Peterman, for the most part.
Bellotti had one losing record in 14 seasons at a program that had finished below .500 in 18 of the previous 30 years before he became head coach.
And Peterman's finished top 25 7 times, same as Iron Mike, over roughly the same amount of tim.
So who in the league would be better? Peterman? Shaw? the Pirate?
Peterman and Shaw are probably better than Iron Mike but not be a super-wide margin, and Shaw is Shaw. We're going to see what Peterman is really made of over the next 2-3 years.
Your narrative sucks harder than your maff.
Oh and they both coached before they were at a major program and Pete > Bellotti there.
If you really think the average of Pete's first four years at UW is the average of what he'll accomplish at UW then sure, he's about Bellotti's level of a mediocre coach.
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UW Pete has as many top 5 finishes as Bellotti did in 11 less years.
UW Pete has as many outright conference titles as Bellotti did in 11 years.
Overall Pete has more BCS wins than Bellotti did in two less years (and that's just counting Bellotti at Oregon).
Only a Quook would look at their resumes and say they're on the same level.
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AZDuck has always been one of my favorite, classy, poasters.Southerndawg said:
No, no he's notdnc said:
Holy quook alert. Pete has a better winning percentage "at major programs" despite winning the same amount of games per year and getting an extra game.AZDuck said:
To me "Mediocre" is a C. "Good" is a B, and "Excellent" is an A.dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
Coaching in the league kind of sucks right now. There's no Carrolls, Harbaughs, un-burned out Tedfords, kings of Poop Island, or good Dennis Ericksons right now.
Bellotti was a B coach with a couple of B+ years. He got good results from the talent he had, usually overperformed his recruiting, and learned from his mistakes.
At major conference programs, Bellotti and Peterman have averaged about 9 wins per season, and Bellotti did it with one fewer game than Peterman, for the most part.
Bellotti had one losing record in 14 seasons at a program that had finished below .500 in 18 of the previous 30 years before he became head coach.
And Peterman's finished top 25 7 times, same as Iron Mike, over roughly the same amount of tim.
So who in the league would be better? Peterman? Shaw? the Pirate?
Peterman and Shaw are probably better than Iron Mike but not be a super-wide margin, and Shaw is Shaw. We're going to see what Peterman is really made of over the next 2-3 years.
Your narrative sucks harder than your maff.
Oh and they both coached before they were at a major program and Pete > Bellotti there.
If you really think the average of Pete's first four years at UW is the average of what he'll accomplish at UW then sure, he's about Bellotti's level of a mediocre coach.
Sure.gif
UW Pete has as many top 5 finishes as Bellotti did in 11 less years.
UW Pete has as many outright conference titles as Bellotti did in 11 years.
Overall Pete has more BCS wins than Bellotti did in two less years (and that's just counting Bellotti at Oregon).
Only a Quook would look at their resumes and say they're on the same level.
Once again, your better than this.
This week hasn't been his best work. -
Is Peterman the best coach in this league?dnc said:
Holy quook alert. Pete has a better winning percentage "at major programs" despite winning the same amount of games per year and getting an extra game.AZDuck said:
To me "Mediocre" is a C. "Good" is a B, and "Excellent" is an A.dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
Coaching in the league kind of sucks right now. There's no Carrolls, Harbaughs, un-burned out Tedfords, kings of Poop Island, or good Dennis Ericksons right now.
Bellotti was a B coach with a couple of B+ years. He got good results from the talent he had, usually overperformed his recruiting, and learned from his mistakes.
At major conference programs, Bellotti and Peterman have averaged about 9 wins per season, and Bellotti did it with one fewer game than Peterman, for the most part.
Bellotti had one losing record in 14 seasons at a program that had finished below .500 in 18 of the previous 30 years before he became head coach.
And Peterman's finished top 25 7 times, same as Iron Mike, over roughly the same amount of tim.
So who in the league would be better? Peterman? Shaw? the Pirate?
Peterman and Shaw are probably better than Iron Mike but not be a super-wide margin, and Shaw is Shaw. We're going to see what Peterman is really made of over the next 2-3 years.
Your narrative sucks harder than your maff.
Oh and they both coached before they were at a major program and Pete > Bellotti there.
If you really think the average of Pete's first four years at UW is the average of what he'll accomplish at UW then sure, he's about Bellotti's level of a mediocre coach.
Sure.gif
UW Pete has as many top 5 finishes as Bellotti did in 11 less years.
UW Pete has as many outright conference titles as Bellotti did in 11 years.
Overall Pete has more BCS wins than Bellotti did in two less years (and that's just counting Bellotti at Oregon).
Only a Quook would look at their resumes and say they're on the same level.
Once again, your better than this.
If you believe he is or if he’s in the top 2, AZ isn’t far off in his analysis.
You would have to agree with that. There’s literally no argument.
#whitebellotti
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If I'm a UW fan, this year's performance has me at least a little bit concerned.
Peterman is one of the top coaches in the league, and most likely the top. I thought I made that clear. It just isn't a super high bar right now. Utah and Stanford should be concerning for Peterman partizans.
Bellotti was a good to very good coach. Karl Dorrell, John Cooper and Bruce Snyder are the epitome of long-term "mediocre" coaches, who typically have one peak year at a coaching stop and tended to do a little less with a little more. Or a lot more, in Cooper's case.
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I believe Pete is the best coach in the league but if his next four years match his first four years (slightly better than Bellotti) I'll be very disappointed.MikeSeaver said:
Is Peterman the best coach in this league?dnc said:
Holy quook alert. Pete has a better winning percentage "at major programs" despite winning the same amount of games per year and getting an extra game.AZDuck said:
To me "Mediocre" is a C. "Good" is a B, and "Excellent" is an A.dnc said:
1 outright conference championship and 1/3 of a conference championship in 14 years on the job (11 of those 14 years in a ten team conference) makes him nothing but mediocre.AZDuck said:Bellotti won the Fiesta Bowel, owns 4 10-win seasons, 2 conference titles and beat the best UW team since the 1991 squad.
I know it's fun to call him "Mediocre Mike" around here, but he'd be either the best or second best coach in the league if he were coaching in the PAC now.
He's mediocre compared to Kelly, but so is everyone else in this league and most of college football save Saban or Urbz.
1 top 5 finish in 14 years on the job makes him nothing but mediocre.
1 meaningful bowel win in 14 years makes him nothing but mediocre.
A worse conference winning percentage than Jim Lambright makes him nothing but mediocre.
He's mediocre Mike because he was mediocre.
Best coach in the conference if he was coaching today my ass.
Your better than this.
Coaching in the league kind of sucks right now. There's no Carrolls, Harbaughs, un-burned out Tedfords, kings of Poop Island, or good Dennis Ericksons right now.
Bellotti was a B coach with a couple of B+ years. He got good results from the talent he had, usually overperformed his recruiting, and learned from his mistakes.
At major conference programs, Bellotti and Peterman have averaged about 9 wins per season, and Bellotti did it with one fewer game than Peterman, for the most part.
Bellotti had one losing record in 14 seasons at a program that had finished below .500 in 18 of the previous 30 years before he became head coach.
And Peterman's finished top 25 7 times, same as Iron Mike, over roughly the same amount of tim.
So who in the league would be better? Peterman? Shaw? the Pirate?
Peterman and Shaw are probably better than Iron Mike but not be a super-wide margin, and Shaw is Shaw. We're going to see what Peterman is really made of over the next 2-3 years.
Your narrative sucks harder than your maff.
Oh and they both coached before they were at a major program and Pete > Bellotti there.
If you really think the average of Pete's first four years at UW is the average of what he'll accomplish at UW then sure, he's about Bellotti's level of a mediocre coach.
Sure.gif
UW Pete has as many top 5 finishes as Bellotti did in 11 less years.
UW Pete has as many outright conference titles as Bellotti did in 11 years.
Overall Pete has more BCS wins than Bellotti did in two less years (and that's just counting Bellotti at Oregon).
Only a Quook would look at their resumes and say they're on the same level.
Once again, your better than this.
If you believe he is or if he’s in the top 2, AZ isn’t far off in his analysis.
You would have to agree with that. There’s literally no argument.
#whitebellotti
I'd take David Shaw over Bellotti in a heartbeat.
I don't believe Bellotti could do what Leach has done at WSU.
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I agree with most of this but anything calling Bellotti "a very good coach" is an automatic downvote. He was slightly above average but nothing close to very good.AZDuck said:If I'm a UW fan, this year's performance has me at least a little bit concerned.
Peterman is one of the top coaches in the league, and most likely the top. I thought I made that clear. It just isn't a super high bar right now. Utah and Stanford should be concerning for Peterman partizans.
Bellotti was a good to very good coach. Karl Dorrell, John Cooper and Bruce Snyder are the epitome of long-term "mediocre" coaches, who typically have one peak year at a coaching stop and tended to do a little less with a little more. Or a lot more, in Cooper's case.
Jury's still out with Peterman. Next year is all his own recruits for the first tim, yes?
I guaranfuckingtee you if Peterman only wins one conference championship in 14 years you won't be here calling him "good to very good".
I sure as fuck won't.
GTFO of here with that shit.
