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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Eliminating the state tax deduction is brilliant

    Agree. the vast majority of CA will see why federalism is the answer.

    Ryan losing the house is the most likely scenario.

    The uneducated, unskilled and unproductive don’t want CA’s benevolence.

    It’s time to let them all go. Good luck.

    Question for your busted liver Dawg: What state in the US would you say received the largest share (on a per capita basis) of Cold War era defense spending (which was critical to said state becoming the economic powerhouse that it is today)? Tax payer largesse is a 2 way street throughout our history.
    Understood. Post WWII and cold war military spending created a pyrrhic cal economy: George, Norton, Sacramento, alameda, el segundo, et al all closed. I lived through it. Point is CA reformed and educated itself. We didn’t bitch and cry like today’s entitled white trash. Led by our institutions of higher education, we re-skilled and once again lead the workd economy based on an entirely revamped and highly skilled work force. Tromps can fuck off. They will get what they deserve. Ultimately.
    Agree to some extent pyrrhic aspect. I lived in SD till '92 and my Dad's business was definitely affected. Brutal recession. My point is, however, is that in spite of retooling themselves, CA probably wouldn't be where it is today without big government defense spending. Silicon Valley don't happen the way it did w/o Ruskies launching Webber BBQ's into outer space.
    It’s interesting how American progress, ingenuity and success played out over the the 20th century, attrituable in large part to the passion of our immigrants — basque, Slav, German, Irish, Mexican... we made america great. Now the narrow-minded, unskilled, and uneducated say we need to build a “wall”

    Fuck that. Fuck off.


    CA independence.
    We need a wall. On the California/Oregon border. Keep you buttfuckers outta the north.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club

    It’s clear where US law is headed in the absence of any sensible public policy direction.

    thoughtless GOP tax reform (under which cal taxable income earners of $200k pay an additional $2,000 per person or so subsidy to red states)
    — isolationist economic and trade policies
    — mindless nationalist, populist and “Christian” rentrenchment.

    Troomps need educated, skilled and productive California more than we need you.

    I am a Californian.

    The flip side to this coin is those of us living in non income states subsidizing the high state income taxes in places like CA. When prison guards are getting those ridiculous pensions, it tells me the average CA tax payer is being overbilled (yes, this is an over generalization, but you get the idea).

    The tax code is like the Papacy selling indulgences and in general it should be made to be as neutral as possible.
    There’s a path to a rational tax and spending policy. Unfortunately, It’s not happening any time soon with the DC shit show.

    CA independence.
    Rare time when we agree. I too would like to see California go.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    Eliminating the state tax deduction is brilliant

    Agree. the vast majority of CA will see why federalism is the answer.

    Ryan losing the house is the most likely scenario.

    The uneducated, unskilled and unproductive don’t want CA’s benevolence.

    It’s time to let them all go. Good luck.

    Question for your busted liver Dawg: What state in the US would you say received the largest share (on a per capita basis) of Cold War era defense spending (which was critical to said state becoming the economic powerhouse that it is today)? Tax payer largesse is a 2 way street throughout our history.
    Understood. Post WWII and cold war military spending created a pyrrhic cal economy: George, Norton, Sacramento, alameda, el segundo, et al all closed. I lived through it. Point is CA reformed and educated itself. We didn’t bitch and cry like today’s entitled white trash. Led by our institutions of higher education, we re-skilled and once again lead the world economy based on an entirely revamped and highly skilled work force. Troomps can fuck off. They will get what they deserve. Ultimately.
    Your benevolence is, um.... yeah.


    You sound bitter.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.

    UCI acquittal?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,757 Standard Supporter

    Eliminating the state tax deduction is brilliant

    Agree. the vast majority of CA will see why federalism is the answer.

    Ryan losing the house is the most likely scenario.

    The uneducated, unskilled and unproductive don’t want CA’s benevolence.

    It’s time to let them all go. Good luck.

    Question for your busted liver Dawg: What state in the US would you say received the largest share (on a per capita basis) of Cold War era defense spending (which was critical to said state becoming the economic powerhouse that it is today)? Tax payer largesse is a 2 way street throughout our history.
    Understood. Post WWII and cold war military spending created a pyrrhic cal economy: George, Norton, Sacramento, alameda, el segundo, et al all closed. I lived through it. Point is CA reformed and educated itself. We didn’t bitch and cry like today’s entitled white trash. Led by our institutions of higher education, we re-skilled and once again lead the workd economy based on an entirely revamped and highly skilled work force. Tromps can fuck off. They will get what they deserve. Ultimately.
    Agree to some extent pyrrhic aspect. I lived in SD till '92 and my Dad's business was definitely affected. Brutal recession. My point is, however, is that in spite of retooling themselves, CA probably wouldn't be where it is today without big government defense spending. Silicon Valley don't happen the way it did w/o Ruskies launching Webber BBQ's into outer space.
    It’s interesting how American progress, ingenuity and success played out over the the 20th century, attrituable in large part to the passion of our immigrants — basque, Slav, German, Irish, Mexican... we made america great. Now the narrow-minded, unskilled, and uneducated say we need to build a “wall”

    Fuck that. Fuck off.


    CA independence.
    You leave out how those "builders" came here legally and it only proves others will do the work illegals are stealing.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,850 Founders Club
    edited November 2017
    salemcoog said:

    Eliminating the state tax deduction is brilliant

    Agree. the vast majority of CA will see why federalism is the answer.

    Ryan losing the house is the most likely scenario.

    The uneducated, unskilled and unproductive don’t want CA’s benevolence.

    It’s time to let them all go. Good luck.

    Question for your busted liver Dawg: What state in the US would you say received the largest share (on a per capita basis) of Cold War era defense spending (which was critical to said state becoming the economic powerhouse that it is today)? Tax payer largesse is a 2 way street throughout our history.
    Understood. Post WWII and cold war military spending created a pyrrhic cal economy: George, Norton, Sacramento, alameda, el segundo, et al all closed. I lived through it. Point is CA reformed and educated itself. We didn’t bitch and cry like today’s entitled white trash. Led by our institutions of higher education, we re-skilled and once again lead the world economy based on an entirely revamped and highly skilled work force. Troomps can fuck off. They will get what they deserve. Ultimately.
    So if gurgle is the drown sound. What sound would best describe your State cut off from outside water?


    Crackle???
    CA could probably actually get by on its own water supply (i.e., no more Colorado River imports) if they were not such a bunch of tree huggers and would build more reservoirs, get more of the So Cal rainfall (yes they get a fair bit) stored in aquifers, plus maybe some more desalinization plants. There's a lot of water in the state; it's just about storing it properly and moving it from point A to B. Some farmers would have to be bought ought to which would be expensive.

    Plus no one wants your dirty Willamette water anyhow which is polluted with Salem bum piss, fecal matter and full blow AIDS.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,691
    Swaye said:

    It’s clear where US law is headed in the absence of any sensible public policy direction.

    thoughtless GOP tax reform (under which cal taxable income earners of $200k pay an additional $2,000 per person or so subsidy to red states)
    — isolationist economic and trade policies
    — mindless nationalist, populist and “Christian” rentrenchment.

    Troomps need educated, skilled and productive California more than we need you.

    I am a Californian.

    The flip side to this coin is those of us living in non income states subsidizing the high state income taxes in places like CA. When prison guards are getting those ridiculous pensions, it tells me the average CA tax payer is being overbilled (yes, this is an over generalization, but you get the idea).

    The tax code is like the Papacy selling indulgences and in general it should be made to be as neutral as possible.
    There’s a path to a rational tax and spending policy. Unfortunately, It’s not happening any time soon with the DC shit show.

    CA independence.
    Rare time when we agree. I too would like to see California go.
    Mainly just LA. I like the rest
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468



    salemcoog said:

    Eliminating the state tax deduction is brilliant

    Agree. the vast majority of CA will see why federalism is the answer.

    Ryan losing the house is the most likely scenario.

    The uneducated, unskilled and unproductive don’t want CA’s benevolence.

    It’s time to let them all go. Good luck.

    Question for your busted liver Dawg: What state in the US would you say received the largest share (on a per capita basis) of Cold War era defense spending (which was critical to said state becoming the economic powerhouse that it is today)? Tax payer largesse is a 2 way street throughout our history.
    Understood. Post WWII and cold war military spending created a pyrrhic cal economy: George, Norton, Sacramento, alameda, el segundo, et al all closed. I lived through it. Point is CA reformed and educated itself. We didn’t bitch and cry like today’s entitled white trash. Led by our institutions of higher education, we re-skilled and once again lead the world economy based on an entirely revamped and highly skilled work force. Troomps can fuck off. They will get what they deserve. Ultimately.
    So if gurgle is the drown sound. What sound would best describe your State cut off from outside water?


    Crackle???
    CA could probably actually get by on its own water supply (i.e., no more Colorado River imports) if they were not such a bunch of tree huggers and would build more reservoirs, get more of the So Cal rainfall (yes they get a fair bit) stored in aquifers, plus maybe some more desalinization plants. There's a lot of water in the state; it's just about storing it properly and moving it from point A to B. Some farmers would have to be bought ought to which would be expensive.

    Plus no one wants your dirty Willamette water anyhow which is polluted with Salem bum piss, fecal matter and full blow AIDS.
    and heroin. lots and lots of heroin.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    AZDuck said:

    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.
    PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION NOW.

    Fuck off. Electoral college is there for a reason, to prevent NY and CA from deciding every election. You lost you fucking crybaby. Fair and square. The rules are the rules. Did your mommy change them every time your spoilt ass started crying and threw a tantrum?