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FS Great Compromise of 1787 - Looking at the numbers

YellowSnow
YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,850 Founders Club
Lot of bitching back and forth these days between the BLUE and RED states about who's getting the shaft. Thought it would be worthwhile to look back quickly at the numbers.

1790 US Census (Data included people counted at 3/5 of one human)

- Average Population of the 3 most populous states (23% of the states at the time): 506,000
- Average Population of the 3 least populous states: 69,000
- So the average large population state was 7.3 times more populous in 1790 than the average low population state.

2010 US Census Data

- Average Population of the 10 most populous states (20% of the states at the time): 16.6 million
- Average Population of the 10 least populous states: 887,000
- The average large population state in 2010 was 18.7 times more populous than the average low population state.

I know you small (mostly RED) states grow a lot of food, extract a lot of minerals and energy, so TYFYS, but you certainly aren't getting fucked over by the federal government.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,782 Standard Supporter
    Well, I'm sold. Should be pretty easy to get 3/4 of the states to amend the Constitution of the United States.

    Electoral Coollege gonna Electoral Coollege.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,850 Founders Club

    Well, I'm sold. Should be pretty easy to get 3/4 of the states to amend the Constitution of the United States.

    Electoral Coollege gonna Electoral Coollege.

    More likely that Jake Browning will put the Dawgs on his shoulders and lead the team to a come back victory. The small states ain't going to give up their power and influence no matter what.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club

    Well, I'm sold. Should be pretty easy to get 3/4 of the states to amend the Constitution of the United States.

    Electoral Coollege gonna Electoral Coollege.

    More likely that Jake Browning will put the Dawgs on his shoulders and lead the team to a come back victory. The small states ain't going to give up their power and influence no matter what.
    ding ding ding

    In order to form a more perfect union compromise was required. If the University of Electoral went out of bidness tomorrow the map of the country would change as states merge to maintain a voice against the coastal powers.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,850 Founders Club
    edited November 2017

    Well, I'm sold. Should be pretty easy to get 3/4 of the states to amend the Constitution of the United States.

    Electoral Coollege gonna Electoral Coollege.

    More likely that Jake Browning will put the Dawgs on his shoulders and lead the team to a come back victory. The small states ain't going to give up their power and influence no matter what.
    ding ding ding

    In order to form a more perfect union compromise was required. If the University of Electoral went out of bidness tomorrow the map of the country would change as states merge to maintain a voice against the coastal powers.
    And it was a good compromise at the time. The EC has been somewhat of a check, but the popular vote winner, usually still wins. 2016 was speshial and only Bannon called it. The real check on big states was always the Senate and in this respect the power of the little guy has expanded dramatically. LA County, for example, has more people than something like 30 of the states in the US.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club
    I could see the popular vote winner losing more often going forward. Its happened twice this century. More so if the GOP candidate wins the Electoral College Bowl

    Take 2020 - Trump will lose California by millions of votes again but he has the new coalition that the democrats continue to ignore that gives him the EC map to victory.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,782 Standard Supporter

    Well, I'm sold. Should be pretty easy to get 3/4 of the states to amend the Constitution of the United States.

    Electoral Coollege gonna Electoral Coollege.

    More likely that Jake Browning will put the Dawgs on his shoulders and lead the team to a come back victory. The small states ain't going to give up their power and influence no matter what.
    ding ding ding

    In order to form a more perfect union compromise was required. If the University of Electoral went out of bidness tomorrow the map of the country would change as states merge to maintain a voice against the coastal powers.
    Whatever happen, I hope my state is teamed up with Utah because, you know, anal and armpits.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,850 Founders Club

    I could see the popular vote winner losing more often going forward. Its happened twice this century. More so if the GOP candidate wins the Electoral College Bowl

    Take 2020 - Trump will lose California by millions of votes again but he has the new coalition that the democrats continue to ignore that gives him the EC map to victory.

    As it relates to this hypothetical, RussiaGate, doesn't bother me...I could see it if the economy is growing at 4% a year and there's no unpopular military action overseas. But ultimately, I think it comes down to who the Dems nominate. If it's someone who doesn't turn off too many centrists and whilst still getting the pissed off snowflakes out to vote, Trump is toast.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    I could see the popular vote winner losing more often going forward. Its happened twice this century. More so if the GOP candidate wins the Electoral College Bowl

    Take 2020 - Trump will lose California by millions of votes again but he has the new coalition that the democrats continue to ignore that gives him the EC map to victory.

    January 21, 2021. Independence Day!
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,850 Founders Club

    I could see the popular vote winner losing more often going forward. Its happened twice this century. More so if the GOP candidate wins the Electoral College Bowl

    Take 2020 - Trump will lose California by millions of votes again but he has the new coalition that the democrats continue to ignore that gives him the EC map to victory.

    January 21, 2021. Independence Day!
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    It’s clear where US law is headed in the absence of any sensible public policy direction.

    — thoughtless GOP tax reform (under which cal taxable income earners of $200k pay an additional $2,000 per person or so subsidy to red states)
    — isolationist economic and trade policies
    — mindless nationalist, populist and “Christian” rentrenchment.

    Troomps need educated, skilled and productive California more than we need you.

    I am a Californian.