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John Canzano: Oregon needs new focus to ever catch Washington
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That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
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If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok... -
Sources said:
Bill Tags took over a 4 win team. The dudes that got to the playoffs were gone outside of Freeman, Nelson, and Mondeau.Mosster47 said:This article is a fucking joke. You need two things to catch anyone in football: Talent and coaching.
Peterman is in year four. Say what you want about Sark, but that drunkard could recruit. Pete came in with talent on the roster and is a good coach. Sark was a better recruiter, Pete is a better coach. Those things both work out to a 9 win program, which is not bad in any way.
Slingblade was a pussy who couldn't do either. Campbell and Greatwood kept up their coaching and recruiting after Chip left because they are just great coaches. Everyone else went into retirement mode. Outside of running back, the O-line, and one QB that grew up across the street the Ducks had a shitty roster. The rumblings were there were six guys in the team when Willie took over that could bench 225lbs. That's fucking mind blowing but not surprising with Sling being a pussy and Radcliff valuing stretching over lifting.
Willie is bringing in talent regardless of his coaching ability. He will get Oregon to a 9 win program by his fourth year regardless of anything else. If he bails for a job in the south after that point the next guy will have a roster to work with.
UW's head coach left for USC. That means UW's program wasn't in a bad place. Oregon fired their head coach because he let the train run off the tracks. If Herbert plays this article doesn't get written and it's year one of getting it back together.
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rustysavage said:
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rodmansrage said:
The fact that Sling did such a terrible job developing his team and recruiting players.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is70-2138-3?
In 2014 if Mariota went down we would have won maybe 7 games. Instead he played all year and we made the NC.
2015 was basically this year, but with more Chip leftover. If Adams doesn't break his hand in garbage time we win in Lansing with ease and finish the season with maybe one loss to Utah and it's back in the playoffs. Instead we play in Lansing with a QB that can't hold the ball and he sits out a month after that. The season dies and he gets a concussion at half time and Sling blows a 34 point lead against TCU.
2016 is another Big Sky QB that actually plays like a Big Sky QB. He shoves Herbie in there to save his job and it's a 4 win season.
2017 Herbie goes down for six weeks and the season is toast.
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love?rodmansrage said:rustysavage said:
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PlayoffsMikeSeaver said:
He took over the year after Oregon won four games.RaceBannon said:You can't expect Taggs to take over the year after a play off trip and have anything to work with
Other than that, unbelievable poast. Really dialed in.
Helfrich fired
Taggert takes over
So they lost all that talent in one year. Cool story. Helfrich got fired for under performing did he not? If it was a lack of talent why was he fired? He just need more time to get his guys in there.
Lambo went 7-4 in 1993, the same time frame after our title. And we knew he wasn't the guy
Hope this helps. If not just keep sucking off ASU and Stanford for doing what Oregon can't.
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Is this 2005?RaceBannon said:
PlayoffsMikeSeaver said:
He took over the year after Oregon won four games.RaceBannon said:You can't expect Taggs to take over the year after a play off trip and have anything to work with
Other than that, unbelievable poast. Really dialed in.
Helfrich fired
Taggert takes over
So they lost all that talent in one year. Cool story. Helfrich got fired for under performing did he not? If it was a lack of talent why was he fired? He just need more time to get his guys in there.
Lambo went 7-4 in 1993, the same time frame after our title. And we knew he wasn't the guy
Hope this helps. If not just keep sucking off ASU and Stanford for doing what Oregon can't.
Little bro
“Little bro”
That actually curled my back up. Embarrassing.
Listen, you thought Mora was the guy, I believe you called him “The next Pete Carroll”
I offered to pick him up at Sea-Tac and drive him to Husky Stadium.
Spare us the “We get it” shit.
Oregon went to the playoffs in Helfrich year two with an alien at QB. Then year three he won 4 games, the culture died and he was a pussy. This is year 4 since CK left and you’re all acting like this is his team. That’s 3 years of slingblade recruiting and a month of Bill Taggs.
In year 4 of Pete you couldn’t win the worst Pac 12 in 50 years (not even your division) with nobody in your way. I believe this is why they invented the term “couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse”
Nice recruiting class though.
You guys a for sure back this time.
Good luck rest of the way.
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Your deflection is noted. Just admitting I'm right would be easierMikeSeaver said:
Is this 2005?RaceBannon said:
PlayoffsMikeSeaver said:
He took over the year after Oregon won four games.RaceBannon said:You can't expect Taggs to take over the year after a play off trip and have anything to work with
Other than that, unbelievable poast. Really dialed in.
Helfrich fired
Taggert takes over
So they lost all that talent in one year. Cool story. Helfrich got fired for under performing did he not? If it was a lack of talent why was he fired? He just need more time to get his guys in there.
Lambo went 7-4 in 1993, the same time frame after our title. And we knew he wasn't the guy
Hope this helps. If not just keep sucking off ASU and Stanford for doing what Oregon can't.
Little bro
“Little bro”
That actually curled my back up. Embarrassing.
Listen, you thought Mora was the guy, I believe you called him “The next Pete Carroll”
I offered to pick him up at Sea-Tac and drive him to Husky Stadium.
Spare us the “We get it” shit.
Oregon went to the playoffs in Helfrich year two with an alien at QB. Then year three he won 4 games, the culture died and he was a pussy. This is year 4 since CK left and you’re all acting like this is his team. That’s 3 years of slingblade recruiting and a month of Bill Taggs.
In year 4 of Pete you couldn’t win the worst Pac 12 in 50 years (not even your division) with nobody in your way. I believe this is why they invented the term “couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse”
Nice recruiting class though.
You guys a for sure back this time.
Good luck rest of the way.
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Lil bro
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I said good luck rest of the way, not sure what’s so confusing about that.RaceBannon said:
Your deflection is noted. Just admitting I'm right would be easierMikeSeaver said:
Is this 2005?RaceBannon said:
PlayoffsMikeSeaver said:
He took over the year after Oregon won four games.RaceBannon said:You can't expect Taggs to take over the year after a play off trip and have anything to work with
Other than that, unbelievable poast. Really dialed in.
Helfrich fired
Taggert takes over
So they lost all that talent in one year. Cool story. Helfrich got fired for under performing did he not? If it was a lack of talent why was he fired? He just need more time to get his guys in there.
Lambo went 7-4 in 1993, the same time frame after our title. And we knew he wasn't the guy
Hope this helps. If not just keep sucking off ASU and Stanford for doing what Oregon can't.
Little bro
“Little bro”
That actually curled my back up. Embarrassing.
Listen, you thought Mora was the guy, I believe you called him “The next Pete Carroll”
I offered to pick him up at Sea-Tac and drive him to Husky Stadium.
Spare us the “We get it” shit.
Oregon went to the playoffs in Helfrich year two with an alien at QB. Then year three he won 4 games, the culture died and he was a pussy. This is year 4 since CK left and you’re all acting like this is his team. That’s 3 years of slingblade recruiting and a month of Bill Taggs.
In year 4 of Pete you couldn’t win the worst Pac 12 in 50 years (not even your division) with nobody in your way. I believe this is why they invented the term “couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse”
Nice recruiting class though.
You guys a for sure back this time.
Good luck rest of the way.
Again, you’re wrong.
Playoffs.
TCU shitfest
4 wins
William arrives
Tell me again how Willie was hired the year after the playoffs.
Also need an update, how are we doing on ASU is the best team in the south?
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Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
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The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok... -
So it took him three years? Sounds like Willie should have won it in his first year with this deep roster full of Chip Kelly’s playoff players.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Peterson recruits like White Bellotti. Seems like he’s app to lose what should be run of the mill games for a team gunning for a championship and ruin promising seasons. Don’t forget the Colorado game last year where 3 blocks from behind weren’t called. Phew... Just seeing some comparisons.
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EVERY coach (even good to great ones) loses run of the mill games. PC lost to Beaves and Stanford. Dabo Swinney lost to Syracuse this year and Pitt last year. In year 2 of Dabo's tenure tenure he lost to 2 unranked opponents. In year 3 he lost to 4 unranked opponents. In year 4 he lost to 2 unranked opponent. Shit fucking happens and college football coaches are stubborn headed fucks sometimes.MikeSeaver said:
So it took him three years? Sounds like Willie should have won it in his first year with this deep roster full of Chip Kelly players.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Peterson recruits like White Bellotti. Seems like he’s app to lose what should be run of the mill games that should be business taken care of and ruin promising seasons. Just seeing some comparisons. -
UW:
1991: 12-0 (James) *National title win/ W Rose*
1992: 9-3 (James)
1993: 7-4 (Lambright)
1994: 7-4 (Lambright)
1995: 7-4-1 (Lambright)
1996: 9-3 (Lambright)
1997: 8-4 (Lambright)
1998: 6-6 (Lambright)
-fired-
1999: 7-5 (Neuheisel)
2000: 11-1 (Neuehisel) *W Rose*
... (lots of losing and Sarking)
2014: 8-6 (Peterman)
2015: 7-6 (Peterman)
2016: 12-2 (Peterman) *L Peach*
2017: 8-2 and counting (Peterman)
UO:
2009: 10-3 (Kelly) *L Rose*
2010: 12-1 (Kelly) *L BCS CG*
2011: 12-2 (Kelly) *W Rose*
2012: 12-1 (Kelly) *W Fiesta*
2013: 11-2 (Helfrich)
2014: 13-2 (Helfrich) *W Rose, L CFB CG*
2015: 9-4 (Helfrich)
2016: 4-8 (Helfrich)
-fired-
2017: 5-5 and counting (Taggart)
It took UW five years of meh football to realize that Lambo wasn't the guy. Helfrich fell off the wagon in year 4 and got shit-canned.
UO 2013 class on the roster: Tyree Robinson, Taylor Alie
UO 2014 class on the roster: Royce Freeman, Arrion Springs, Tony Brooks-James, Jimmie Swain, Tyrell Crosby, Jalen Jelks, Charles Nelson, Henry Mondeaux
So that's the last bunch of guys who had some taste of success beyond the amazing antics of Vernon Adams.
Even assuming the best possible outcome for the DWAGS this year (win out), Peterman have virtually identical W-L at the end of year 4, but Helfrich has a major bowel win.
So, I'm still on team LIFPO for Oregon, and UW just might have peaked?
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I'm hearing Iron Mike has two Pac-10 ringsYellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok... -
I love you man, but some terrible analogies being drawn here.AZDuck said:UW:
1991: 12-0 (James) *National title win/ W Rose*
1992: 9-3 (James)
1993: 7-4 (Lambright)
1994: 7-4 (Lambright)
1995: 7-4-1 (Lambright)
1996: 9-3 (Lambright)
1997: 8-4 (Lambright)
1998: 6-6 (Lambright)
-fired-
1999: 7-5 (Neuheisel)
2000: 11-1 (Neuehisel) *W Rose*
... (lots of losing and Sarking)
2014: 8-6 (Peterman)
2015: 7-6 (Peterman)
2016: 12-2 (Peterman) *L Peach*
2017: 8-2 and counting (Peterman)
UO:
2009: 10-3 (Kelly) *L Rose*
2010: 12-1 (Kelly) *L BCS CG*
2011: 12-2 (Kelly) *W Rose*
2012: 12-1 (Kelly) *W Fiesta*
2013: 11-2 (Helfrich)
2014: 13-2 (Helfrich) *W Rose, L CFB CG*
2015: 9-4 (Helfrich)
2016: 4-8 (Helfrich)
-fired-
2017: 5-5 and counting (Taggart)
It took UW five years of meh football to realize that Lambo wasn't the guy. Helfrich fell off the wagon in year 4 and got shit-canned.
UO 2013 class on the roster: Tyree Robinson, Taylor Alie
UO 2014 class on the roster: Royce Freeman, Arrion Springs, Tony Brooks-James, Jimmie Swain, Tyrell Crosby, Jalen Jelks, Charles Nelson, Henry Mondeaux
So that's the last bunch of guys who had some taste of success beyond the amazing antics of Vernon Adams.
Even assuming the best possible outcome for the DWAGS this year (win out), Peterman have virtually identical W-L at the end of year 4, but Helfrich has a major bowel win.
So, I'm still on team LIFPO for Oregon, and UW just might have peaked?
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So your saying Sweeney just needed more time?YellowSnow said:
EVERY coach (even good to great ones) loses run of the mill games. PC lost to Beaves and Stanford. Dabo Swinney lost to Syracuse this year and Pitt last year. In year 2 of Dabo's tenure tenure he lost to 2 unranked opponents. In year 3 he lost to 4 unranked opponents. In year 4 he lost to 2 unranked opponent. Shit fucking happens and college football coaches are stubborn headed fucks sometimes.MikeSeaver said:
So it took him three years? Sounds like Willie should have won it in his first year with this deep roster full of Chip Kelly players.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Peterson recruits like White Bellotti. Seems like he’s app to lose what should be run of the mill games that should be business taken care of and ruin promising seasons. Just seeing some comparisons.
Anyway, ‘tis not me trying to predict the future. peterson might pull a generational QB (next year) but he also might not. He hasn’t come in and changed the league like Carroll, Kelly or even Harbough did.
This all started with Canzano saying Oregon must match the great Washington huskies program.
Oh the one in third place right now?
Oh, ok.
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if we're going back to the topic of the thread (I generally avoid this as a matter of policy), I have to deploy ad hominem to point out that John Canzano is a stupid goat fucker from Fresno.
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In terms of comparison Pete to the 3 above coaches, there's a lot of apples to oranges going on an in his own way, his impact on the league has been pretty fucking significant. He won the PAC in year 3 and went to the playoffs. That is a YUGE change in trajectory for a program that hadn't done shit in a decade before he arrived and had basically gone the way or Syracuse and Minnesota (i.e., formerly great programs that are dead forever). There's still a very realistic shot to go 10-2 with a mediocre to shitty QB. That's still progress, ugly and wart covered or not. He also broke the stranglehold the USC, Stanford and Oregon have had on the league for 15 years now.MikeSeaver said:
So your saying Sweeney just needed more time?YellowSnow said:
EVERY coach (even good to great ones) loses run of the mill games. PC lost to Beaves and Stanford. Dabo Swinney lost to Syracuse this year and Pitt last year. In year 2 of Dabo's tenure tenure he lost to 2 unranked opponents. In year 3 he lost to 4 unranked opponents. In year 4 he lost to 2 unranked opponent. Shit fucking happens and college football coaches are stubborn headed fucks sometimes.MikeSeaver said:
So it took him three years? Sounds like Willie should have won it in his first year with this deep roster full of Chip Kelly players.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Peterson recruits like White Bellotti. Seems like he’s app to lose what should be run of the mill games that should be business taken care of and ruin promising seasons. Just seeing some comparisons.
Anyway, ‘tis not me trying to predict the future. peterson might pull a generational QB (next year) but he also might not. He hasn’t come in and changed the league like Carroll, Kelly or even Harbough did.
This all started with Canzano saying Oregon must match the great Washington huskies program.
Oh the one in third place right now?
Oh, ok.
Carroll - His achievement was being the only coach at USC since the 1970's to get the talent to live up to its potential and win NT's. Great coach but not comparable to what Petersen came into with Washington. He also lost some run of the mill games.
Harbough - His turnaround at Stanford was phenomenal, but the pop didn't happen until year 4 and he did have a once in a generation type of college QB. Put a guy like Luck on this year's Husky team and it's undefeated and headed towards the CFP.
Chip - Totally changed the game and took Oregon to the next level. But again, the situation he came into at Oregon is not the same as Pete at UW.
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Oregon went 7-6 the year before Bellotti hired Chip as his OC.
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Little bro gonna little bro
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So you're saying having a good OC is important?AZDuck said:Oregon went 7-6 the year before Bellotti hired Chip as his OC.
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DisagreeYellowSnow said:
In terms of comparison Pete to the 3 above coaches, there's a lot of apples to oranges going on an in his own way, his impact on the league has been pretty fucking significant. He won the PAC in year 3 and went to the playoffs. That is a YUGE change in trajectory for a program that hadn't done shit in a decade before he arrived and had basically gone the way or Syracuse and Minnesota (i.e., formerly great programs that are dead forever). There's still a very realistic shot to go 10-2 with a mediocre to shitty QB. That's still progress, ugly and wart covered or not. He also broke the stranglehold the USC, Stanford and Oregon have had on the league for 15 years now.MikeSeaver said:
So your saying Sweeney just needed more time?YellowSnow said:
EVERY coach (even good to great ones) loses run of the mill games. PC lost to Beaves and Stanford. Dabo Swinney lost to Syracuse this year and Pitt last year. In year 2 of Dabo's tenure tenure he lost to 2 unranked opponents. In year 3 he lost to 4 unranked opponents. In year 4 he lost to 2 unranked opponent. Shit fucking happens and college football coaches are stubborn headed fucks sometimes.MikeSeaver said:
So it took him three years? Sounds like Willie should have won it in his first year with this deep roster full of Chip Kelly players.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Peterson recruits like White Bellotti. Seems like he’s app to lose what should be run of the mill games that should be business taken care of and ruin promising seasons. Just seeing some comparisons.
Anyway, ‘tis not me trying to predict the future. peterson might pull a generational QB (next year) but he also might not. He hasn’t come in and changed the league like Carroll, Kelly or even Harbough did.
This all started with Canzano saying Oregon must match the great Washington huskies program.
Oh the one in third place right now?
Oh, ok.
Carroll - His achievement was being the only coach at USC since the 1970's to get the talent to live up to its potential and win NT's. Great coach but not comparable to what Petersen came into with Washington. He also lost some run of the mill games.
Harbough - His turnaround at Stanford was phenomenal, but the pop didn't happen until year 4 and he did have a once in a generation type of college QB. Put a guy like Luck on this year's Husky team and it's undefeated and headed towards the CFP.
Chip - Totally changed the game and took Oregon to the next level. But again, the situation he came into at Oregon is not the same as Pete at UW.
Jk. I know all of that above and agree. Again, just saying this Canzano article is premature at best and the following William
stuff in the thread was funny the first 23 times with 500 other coaches.
How about UW matches what USC, UO or Stanford did for half the amount of years those three did before we even start considering them as some sort measuring stick of success.
As I said earlier this week. There’s a real shot that after 4 years of Pete and 1 year of William, they may both be tied with one middling bowl win each.
Also Race Bannon is almost always wrong. It’s quite funny.
That said I still can’t help but like him.
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Yeah, but supposedly UW has all these advantages. Better recruiting, big city in the rain that everyone likes, academis, blue blood, Don James, blah blah blah.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Bellotti too Oregon to a BCS game and won. He also recruited some of the best players to ever play for the Ducks. I can't stand him myself, but he wasn't a shit coach.
I think "White Bellotti" is rather clever. I was searching for one of these for Peterman the other day and missing badly. I think I found my mark.
"White Bellotti" it is. -
Yes, he broke that strangle hold during a time when those three coaches were gone and their programs had fallen off what they'd built. The Ducks had to hear this shit from Washington fans during their entire run, no matter how many Pac 12 teams finished in the top 25 and/or top 10. It was always that the conference was down, and it was always that they could have never pulled it off in a league with Don James. As if ....YellowSnow said:
In terms of comparison Pete to the 3 above coaches, there's a lot of apples to oranges going on an in his own way, his impact on the league has been pretty fucking significant. He won the PAC in year 3 and went to the playoffs. That is a YUGE change in trajectory for a program that hadn't done shit in a decade before he arrived and had basically gone the way or Syracuse and Minnesota (i.e., formerly great programs that are dead forever). There's still a very realistic shot to go 10-2 with a mediocre to shitty QB. That's still progress, ugly and wart covered or not. He also broke the stranglehold the USC, Stanford and Oregon have had on the league for 15 years now.MikeSeaver said:
So your saying Sweeney just needed more time?YellowSnow said:
EVERY coach (even good to great ones) loses run of the mill games. PC lost to Beaves and Stanford. Dabo Swinney lost to Syracuse this year and Pitt last year. In year 2 of Dabo's tenure tenure he lost to 2 unranked opponents. In year 3 he lost to 4 unranked opponents. In year 4 he lost to 2 unranked opponent. Shit fucking happens and college football coaches are stubborn headed fucks sometimes.MikeSeaver said:
So it took him three years? Sounds like Willie should have won it in his first year with this deep roster full of Chip Kelly players.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Peterson recruits like White Bellotti. Seems like he’s app to lose what should be run of the mill games that should be business taken care of and ruin promising seasons. Just seeing some comparisons.
Anyway, ‘tis not me trying to predict the future. peterson might pull a generational QB (next year) but he also might not. He hasn’t come in and changed the league like Carroll, Kelly or even Harbough did.
This all started with Canzano saying Oregon must match the great Washington huskies program.
Oh the one in third place right now?
Oh, ok.
Carroll - His achievement was being the only coach at USC since the 1970's to get the talent to live up to its potential and win NT's. Great coach but not comparable to what Petersen came into with Washington. He also lost some run of the mill games.
Harbough - His turnaround at Stanford was phenomenal, but the pop didn't happen until year 4 and he did have a once in a generation type of college QB. Put a guy like Luck on this year's Husky team and it's undefeated and headed towards the CFP.
Chip - Totally changed the game and took Oregon to the next level. But again, the situation he came into at Oregon is not the same as Pete at UW.
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Your specialty (in addition to jungle fever). Ignore the content, go for the witty quip.RaceBannon said:Little bro gonna little bro
Go back to bed old man and WTF me in your dreams. -
Didn't mean this to say Bellotti sucked or was shit coach - don't twist the witness, law dog. Rather, just saying he's not in the same conversation as Petersen IMO. UW is not a Blue Blood (i.e., Bama, SC, Ohio State, et al) but should be a high tier 2 for the above reasons. There's no reason why Pete should not achieve DJ level type success, which is win the PAC every 3 years or so and be in the hunt for a NT from time to time.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but supposedly UW has all these advantages. Better recruiting, big city in the rain that everyone likes, academis, blue blood, Don James, blah blah blah.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Bellotti too Oregon to a BCS game and won. He also recruited some of the best players to ever play for the Ducks. I can't stand him myself, but he wasn't a shit coach.
I think "White Bellotti" is rather clever. I was searching for one of these for Peterman the other day and missing badly. I think I found my mark.
"White Bellotti" it is.
P.S. - On his pod last week, Wilner said we? were the clear #2 all time in the Pac to USC, so put that in your "UW as #2 is a myth" pipe and smoke it. -
Not sure how he came to that conclusion.YellowSnow said:
Didn't mean this to say Bellotti sucked or was shit coach - don't twist the witness, law dog. Rather, just saying he's not in the same conversation as Petersen IMO. UW is not a Blue Blood (i.e., Bama, SC, Ohio State, et al) but should be a high tier 2 for the above reasons. There's no reason why Pete should not achieve DJ level type success, which is win the PAC every 3 years or so and be in the hunt for a NT from time to time.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but supposedly UW has all these advantages. Better recruiting, big city in the rain that everyone likes, academis, blue blood, Don James, blah blah blah.YellowSnow said:
The fuck is this White Bellotti crap? That's just dumb. Bellotti didn't win the Pac until year 7. Pete did it in year 3. Bellotti won the Pac once in 14 tries. You think it Peterman coaches at UW that long he's going to go 1 for 14?MikeSeaver said:
Glad you’re satisfied with the Stanford performance in year 4 of White Bellotti. You guys were totally in that one.rustysavage said:
If losing by 8 is getting "gangraped" ,then what is 70-21?MikeSeaver said:
That’s the best part about this article I didn’t read.ntxduck said:Canzano is your source??
Washington has won the Pac-12 one year in a row lost to ASU and was gangraped by Stanford.
Washington Husky football is not what Oregon is striving to become.
Just a few years ago 8-2 was a nightmare scenario for Oregon. Now it’s the pinnacle of the Pac-12 I guess?
Oh, ok...
Bellotti too Oregon to a BCS game and won. He also recruited some of the best players to ever play for the Ducks. I can't stand him myself, but he wasn't a shit coach.
I think "White Bellotti" is rather clever. I was searching for one of these for Peterman the other day and missing badly. I think I found my mark.
"White Bellotti" it is.
P.S. - On his pod last week, Wilner said we? were the clear #2 all time in the Pac to USC, so put that in your "UW as #2 is a myth" pipe and smoke it.
Stanford has been to more Rose Bowls and has won just as many as UW. Think you have an orange Bowl and they have a Fiesta?
Conf championships:
USC: 40 (minus 2)
UCLA: 17
UW: 16
Standford: 15
Cal: 14
UO: 11
“Clear #2” is a lot closer to the “clear #5” than it is to the “clear #1”
Your shit head little brother has won 5 “BCS” games, you’ve won 8 with a 100 year head start.
Cal has 5 national titles or something like that.
We basically all suck except USC.
