Hillary Clinton: "We Should Abolish the Electoral College..."
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That was actually pretty funny.dflea said:
It's hard for me to believe your dads didn't bonk you on the head and use the milk to raise a pig instead.salemcoog said:
I guess all the reports of towns literally going dry 2 years ago were completely false then? The sharts showing groundwater dropping to un precedented levels up and down the state measured by satellites was all bunk???CirrhosisDawg said:
In years when it rains and snows at average or above, we are fine for 40+ million people and the worlds 6th largest economy. We are even doing a lot better in water storage. There are massive new resources (underground and reservoirs) in the Central Valley and riverside county. The wet winter pattern generally predominates (and it rains like a motherfucker that makes this Seattle native cringe when it's occurring-- not seattle mist and drizzle but a fucking shitstorm for days). Every decade or so, however, is interrupted with a 1-3 year drought. This last one was the most severe. In the end, CA is absolutely water independent with multiple back-up resources (water storage, reduction in use and desalinization) if necessary. Water is CA's weakest defense. If, however, you think it's defeating the single largest wealth creating entity in the world you are wrong.salemcoog said:
I'm sure that works great during the 7 days per year when it rains. So you're saying, and just let me get this clear, cuz I'm a little slow, that So Cal has an abundant in state water supply?YellowSnow said:
Not exactly. Most of So Cal's water comes from in state- i.e., diverted from the Northern watersheds in the State and diverted south through the CA State Water Project; and for LA, their Aqueduct from the Owens Valley. So Cal gets a portion from the Colorado River, but it's nowhere near the majority of their water. They also have a shit ton or reservoirs that capture rainfall and certain places - e.g., Orange County - have massive aquifers.salemcoog said:
Correct. But the point is that So Cal would dry up in a month if they closed the gates to Lake Mead and other areas outside of the state where the wa wa comes from.YellowSnow said:
Your water doesn't go to Southern California.salemcoog said:
I agree. We should save our water by diverting it away from Southern California. I prefer my oranges from Florida anyway. Problem solved.YellowSnow said:
This is essential reading by the way, if you want to dig a little deeper into the subject.salemcoog said:
They aren't subsidizing the farmer, they subsidize the food you eat. Now go back to your topicalchica handle and poast a shitty pole. It's your wheel house.YellowSnow said:
Them cunty folk's hypocrisy about big guvmint makes me laff from time to time. Us here city slickers are the ones that subsidize their roads, schools, etc. If you're a farmer that irrigates at all in WA, CA, ID, etc, all that infrastructure came from big government boondoggles and they only pay pennies on the dollar for the actual cost of the water.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose - but those people who live in 'the country' don't much like city folks telling them how to manage their lands from behind desks.AZDuck said:it would be nice if people rather than acreage decided who runs the country
(yes, I had to edit that. it takes time to be pithy)
Is that what you're really trying to say?
It's hard for me to believe that one wet year fixes all that. -
I LOVE TRAINS!!AZDuck said:Fer fucks' sake
ARE YOU NOT INTO TRAINS POAST O' THE DAY
The California bullet train is a necessity, if people are going to continue to cram in there. California is slightly larger than Japan, with much more urbanized land (if you can believe that - Cali housing density versus Japanese housing density).
Either that or sit on the freewayz until the end of time, or join the Elon Musk or Self-Driving Car cargo cults.
Or, you know, embrace a technology that's been successful everywhere it's been tried. Yes, America does it's level best to fuck up train travel, but it works well here too in places with sufficient population density and train frequency (East coast and Chicago).
FUCK
But still the roads are fucking falling apart and a death trap. And the Delta situation is a ticking time bomb for lack of a even lazier, shitty cliché.
I'd love to see all 3 get dun, but the first 2 seem like more urgent priorities. -
If people were traveling en masse from Redding-Sacramento-Fresno-bakersfield then the train would be great (400 miles of flat farmland). But the vast majority of the state's population is commuting the coastal / mountain route from LAX/ LA union station to downtown SF. The necessary cost and feat of engineering to pull that off is insurmountable.AZDuck said:Fer fucks' sake
ARE YOU NOT INTO TRAINS POAST O' THE DAY
The California bullet train is a necessity, if people are going to continue to cram in there. California is slightly larger than Japan, with much more urbanized land (if you can believe that - Cali housing density versus Japanese housing density).
Either that or sit on the freewayz until the end of time, or join the Elon Musk or Self-Driving Car cargo cults.
Or, you know, embrace a technology that's been successful everywhere it's been tried. Yes, America does it's level best to fuck up train travel, but it works well here too in places with sufficient population density and train frequency (East coast and Chicago).
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Dam that shit up and flood Portland all to hell.RaceBannon said:Northwest water should go south to California. Letting all that snow melt and rain go into the ocean is a waste.
The Romans are shaking their head at us
Lots of problems solved.
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Typical Phoenician!Pitchfork51 said:I turned the shower on and let it run for like 15 mins then didn't actually go in because it was cold by then.
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Electoral college is archaic and takes away the true voting power away from all but a few swing states and allows presidential candidates to disproportionately spend time/money/resources into winning those states.
But Hillary fucking Clinton is the last person who should be opposing it. Makes her look like even more of a sore loser. She needs to disappear... but like someone else mentioned in the thread earlier there are still idiots who pay to hear her opinions so she stays active.
Also, I love how quickly this thread turned from electoral college talk to talk about trains. Tug at its finest. -
OuchPurpleThrobber said:
Dam that shit up and flood Portland all to hell.RaceBannon said:Northwest water should go south to California. Letting all that snow melt and rain go into the ocean is a waste.
The Romans are shaking their head at us
Lots of problems solved. -
I plagiarismed that from a friend's grandpa. His actual line was "We should have bonked you on the head and used the milk to raise a pig."salemcoog said:
That was actually pretty funny.dflea said:
It's hard for me to believe your dads didn't bonk you on the head and use the milk to raise a pig instead.salemcoog said:
I guess all the reports of towns literally going dry 2 years ago were completely false then? The sharts showing groundwater dropping to un precedented levels up and down the state measured by satellites was all bunk???CirrhosisDawg said:
In years when it rains and snows at average or above, we are fine for 40+ million people and the worlds 6th largest economy. We are even doing a lot better in water storage. There are massive new resources (underground and reservoirs) in the Central Valley and riverside county. The wet winter pattern generally predominates (and it rains like a motherfucker that makes this Seattle native cringe when it's occurring-- not seattle mist and drizzle but a fucking shitstorm for days). Every decade or so, however, is interrupted with a 1-3 year drought. This last one was the most severe. In the end, CA is absolutely water independent with multiple back-up resources (water storage, reduction in use and desalinization) if necessary. Water is CA's weakest defense. If, however, you think it's defeating the single largest wealth creating entity in the world you are wrong.salemcoog said:
I'm sure that works great during the 7 days per year when it rains. So you're saying, and just let me get this clear, cuz I'm a little slow, that So Cal has an abundant in state water supply?YellowSnow said:
Not exactly. Most of So Cal's water comes from in state- i.e., diverted from the Northern watersheds in the State and diverted south through the CA State Water Project; and for LA, their Aqueduct from the Owens Valley. So Cal gets a portion from the Colorado River, but it's nowhere near the majority of their water. They also have a shit ton or reservoirs that capture rainfall and certain places - e.g., Orange County - have massive aquifers.salemcoog said:
Correct. But the point is that So Cal would dry up in a month if they closed the gates to Lake Mead and other areas outside of the state where the wa wa comes from.YellowSnow said:
Your water doesn't go to Southern California.salemcoog said:
I agree. We should save our water by diverting it away from Southern California. I prefer my oranges from Florida anyway. Problem solved.YellowSnow said:
This is essential reading by the way, if you want to dig a little deeper into the subject.salemcoog said:
They aren't subsidizing the farmer, they subsidize the food you eat. Now go back to your topicalchica handle and poast a shitty pole. It's your wheel house.YellowSnow said:
Them cunty folk's hypocrisy about big guvmint makes me laff from time to time. Us here city slickers are the ones that subsidize their roads, schools, etc. If you're a farmer that irrigates at all in WA, CA, ID, etc, all that infrastructure came from big government boondoggles and they only pay pennies on the dollar for the actual cost of the water.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose - but those people who live in 'the country' don't much like city folks telling them how to manage their lands from behind desks.AZDuck said:it would be nice if people rather than acreage decided who runs the country
(yes, I had to edit that. it takes time to be pithy)
Is that what you're really trying to say?
It's hard for me to believe that one wet year fixes all that.
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I really didn't know traffic was so bad between Bakersfield and Fresno.AZDuck said:Fer fucks' sake
ARE YOU NOT INTO TRAINS POAST O' THE DAY
The California bullet train is a necessity, if people are going to continue to cram in there. California is slightly larger than Japan, with much more urbanized land (if you can believe that - Cali housing density versus Japanese housing density).
Either that or sit on the freewayz until the end of time, or join the Elon Musk or Self-Driving Car cargo cults.
Or, you know, embrace a technology that's been successful everywhere it's been tried. Yes, America does it's level best to fuck up train travel, but it works well here too in places with sufficient population density and train frequency (East coast and Chicago).
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We are. You don't have enough aqueducts to service the plebes. It's miserabilis to see how far you have fallen.RaceBannon said:Northwest water should go south to California. Letting all that snow melt and rain go into the ocean is a waste.
The Romans are shaking their head at us
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How did Stuart Resnick end up owning and controlling so much of California's water?
I'm sure the wussian investigation will turn up SOMETHING.
