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Hillary Clinton: "We Should Abolish the Electoral College..."

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,705 Founders Club

    Northwest water should go south to California. Letting all that snow melt and rain go into the ocean is a waste.

    The Romans are shaking their head at us

    This! Race gets it. The Columbia wastes about 260,000,000 acre feet of water per year into the Pacific.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    People forget that Orange County once grew oranges and Knott's Berry farm was real farm. When we went to Disneyland in the 60's it was in the middle of nowhere relative to the urban area it is today.

    The fabled 909 along the 10 from Pomona to Redlands was citrus central too at the turn of the last century.

    Those half million and above houses for sale once housed migrant workers. The former owner house go for more.

    The workers lived in shacks, the owners in Craftsman homes

    I've lived here since 1989 after graduating from UW. At the time, people all around me were moving out because they couldn't recognize the California that had been their home for decades. In the ensuing 28 years, I have to say I am flabbergasted by the pace of change I've experienced. So cal is manifestly different from I when I arrived here for graduate school. And of course, public policy is driven to accelerate benefits to the wealthy at the expense of the middle class leaving a distinct rich/poor divide. Nevertheless, there is no stop to the rapid course of change. We are on ever-moving 18 mph treadmill. Things always seem to work out, however haphazard.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,705 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:


    AZDuck said:

    it would be nice if people rather than acreage decided who runs the country

    (yes, I had to edit that. it takes time to be pithy)

    I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose - but those people who live in 'the country' don't much like city folks telling them how to manage their lands from behind desks.

    Them cunty folk's hypocrisy about big guvmint makes me laff from time to time. Us here city slickers are the ones that subsidize their roads, schools, etc. If you're a farmer that irrigates at all in WA, CA, ID, etc, all that infrastructure came from big government boondoggles and they only pay pennies on the dollar for the actual cost of the water.
    They aren't subsidizing the farmer, they subsidize the food you eat. Now go back to your topicalchica handle and poast a shitty pole. It's your wheel house.
    This is essential reading by the way, if you want to dig a little deeper into the subject.

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    I agree. We should save our water by diverting it away from Southern California. I prefer my oranges from Florida anyway. Problem solved.
    Your water doesn't go to Southern California.
    Correct. But the point is that So Cal would dry up in a month if they closed the gates to Lake Mead and other areas outside of the state where the wa wa comes from.
    Not exactly. Most of So Cal's water comes from in state- i.e., diverted from the Northern watersheds in the State and diverted south through the CA State Water Project; and for LA, their Aqueduct from the Owens Valley. So Cal gets a portion from the Colorado River, but it's nowhere near the majority of their water. They also have a shit ton or reservoirs that capture rainfall and certain places - e.g., Orange County - have massive aquifers.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    Northwest water should go south to California. Letting all that snow melt and rain go into the ocean is a waste.

    The Romans are shaking their head at us

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_interstate_water_pipelines_to_California

    There have been a few plans to do that.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    The Northwest isn't going to divert its water to California just so they can water their lawns instead of paint them.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,705 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    From cankles eternal suckfest to water rights. All in a days work at HH headquarters.

    Every poast is like a box of chocolates.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,680
    I've ordered food delivery twice today
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:


    AZDuck said:

    it would be nice if people rather than acreage decided who runs the country

    (yes, I had to edit that. it takes time to be pithy)

    I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose - but those people who live in 'the country' don't much like city folks telling them how to manage their lands from behind desks.

    Them cunty folk's hypocrisy about big guvmint makes me laff from time to time. Us here city slickers are the ones that subsidize their roads, schools, etc. If you're a farmer that irrigates at all in WA, CA, ID, etc, all that infrastructure came from big government boondoggles and they only pay pennies on the dollar for the actual cost of the water.
    They aren't subsidizing the farmer, they subsidize the food you eat. Now go back to your topicalchica handle and poast a shitty pole. It's your wheel house.
    This is essential reading by the way, if you want to dig a little deeper into the subject.

    image

    I agree. We should save our water by diverting it away from Southern California. I prefer my oranges from Florida anyway. Problem solved.
    Your water doesn't go to Southern California.
    Correct. But the point is that So Cal would dry up in a month if they closed the gates to Lake Mead and other areas outside of the state where the wa wa comes from.
    Not exactly. Most of So Cal's water comes from in state- i.e., diverted from the Northern watersheds in the State and diverted south through the CA State Water Project; and for LA, their Aqueduct from the Owens Valley. So Cal gets a portion from the Colorado River, but it's nowhere near the majority of their water. They also have a shit ton or reservoirs that capture rainfall and certain places - e.g., Orange County - have massive aquifers.
    I'm sure that works great during the 7 days per year when it rains. So you're saying, and just let me get this clear, cuz I'm a little slow, that So Cal has an abundant in state water supply?

    Is that what you're really trying to say?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Northwest water should go south to California. Letting all that snow melt and rain go into the ocean is a waste.

    The Romans are shaking their head at us

    This! Race gets it. The Columbia wastes about 260,000,000 acre feet of water per year into the Pacific.
    Actually it's better wasted than providing sustenance for all of the polluters in So Cal that are contributing to climate change, no ?