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Trump Disavows Racists Over and Over Again - While Media Says Exactly the Opposite.

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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    The Nazi's will be the ones trying to sensor free speech and destroying and rewriting history.

    HTH
    The Nazis were the guys at the rally carrying Nazi flags.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    It's not a false equivalency, nor even an equivalency. Someday you will have unpopular views or view considered offensive or horrible, and unless you're willing to be censored, punished, beaten or killed solely for your views, you have to tolerate even the most despicable views of others to ensure your own protections when that day comes. Almost any veteran will say "I despise you and your views, but I will fight to the death to protect your right to have and speak them, because this is America." It's weird so many people have a problem with that.
    It's fucked up that people want to censor alt-right racist views.

    It's also fucked up to have alt-right racist views. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died to defeat this bullshit and assholes like you are pissing on them for their service.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited August 2017
    It's also fucked up to have alt-left racist views.

    seems to me all this FREESPEECH talk depends on who is hearing the message After words have been spoken
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    doogie said:

    It's also fucked up to have alt-left racist views.

    Stop pissing on the constitution.

    Go on... tell me what alt-left racist views are. I'll tell you if i have those views or not.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    I have spent most of my life with unpopular views that many consider offensive and horrible.

    I'm willing to be censored, punished, beaten or killed for those views.

    That doesn't mean I'm against the first amendment. I think those idiots had the right to assemble. I also think the rest of us have the right to hold them accountable for what transpired there.
    But you don't have to worry about that, thanks to the Bill of Rights.

    Otherwise agree about accountability. And that I'm a fucking asshole. Problem I have is when opposing groups embrace violence, which is not a protected right, to oppose speech and assembly, which is. The Constitution doesn't work that way. Violence begets violence (I didn't invent that phrase) and we pick up the tab.

    Better to let the Far Right Nazis speak and hoist themselves publicly on their own petards, diminishing their own strengths with their own offensive, unpopular words than to drive them back into the darkness to plot even worse offenses.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    But you don't have to worry about that, thanks to the Bill of Rights.

    Otherwise agree about accountability. And that I'm a fucking asshole. Problem I have is when opposing groups embrace violence, which is not a protected right, to oppose speech and assembly, which is. The Constitution doesn't work that way. Violence begets violence (I didn't invent that phrase) and we pick up the tab.

    Better to let the Far Right Nazis speak and hoist themselves publicly on their own petards, diminishing their own strengths with their own offensive, unpopular words than to drive them back into the darkness to plot even worse offenses.
    Totally agree.

    We can close the thread now.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    But you don't have to worry about that, thanks to the Bill of Rights.

    Otherwise agree about accountability. And that I'm a fucking asshole. Problem I have is when opposing groups embrace violence, which is not a protected right, to oppose speech and assembly, which is. The Constitution doesn't work that way. Violence begets violence (I didn't invent that phrase) and we pick up the tab.

    Better to let the Far Right Nazis speak and hoist themselves publicly on their own petards, diminishing their own strengths with their own offensive, unpopular words than to drive them back into the darkness to plot even worse offenses.
    Agree. But why did they bring guns, shields and clubs to their "assembly"?
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    Go on... tell me what alt-left racist views are. I'll tell you if i have those views or not.
    The crazy psycho lefts like to abuse terms such as racist/sexist/homophobic as a fear tactic with anyone who doesn't align with their views 100%. While it isn't "racist" it is still super fucked up.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club


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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,828

    But you don't have to worry about that, thanks to the Bill of Rights.

    Otherwise agree about accountability. And that I'm a fucking asshole. Problem I have is when opposing groups embrace violence, which is not a protected right, to oppose speech and assembly, which is. The Constitution doesn't work that way. Violence begets violence (I didn't invent that phrase) and we pick up the tab.

    Better to let the Far Right Nazis speak and hoist themselves publicly on their own petards, diminishing their own strengths with their own offensive, unpopular words than to drive them back into the darkness to plot even worse offenses.
    I'm not one who thinks it's a foregone conclusion the Bill of Rights will be in place, or at least enforced, throughout my lifetim. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. (EWIWBI!)

    If it's not, I'm prepared to stand for what I believe in anyway.

  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    Agree. But why did they bring guns, shields and clubs to their "assembly"?
    Rather than speculate, why do you think they brought them? Intimidation? Protection?
    You'd have to ask them.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2017
    .Fucked that one up.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    Rather than speculate, why do you think they brought them? Intimidation? Protection?
    You'd have to ask them.
    No I don't. An armed assembly speaks for itself.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Now you have a problem with lawful assembly approved by a Federal Judge?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,915
    Swaye said:

    I guess I am alone in hoping all the blacks, whites and messicans get into a huge race war and the only people left standing are red. Who got the last laugh now Columbus? You fucking prick. Ha!

    Forgot the Asians. Fuck. They will probably enslave me next. Goddamnit!

    Spoiler.

    The blacks and messicans go at it.

    Jax dies in a horrendous motorcycle/semi- suicide crash.

  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    No I don't. An armed assembly speaks for itself.
    What does it say?
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    doogie said:

    Now you have a problem with lawful assembly approved by a Federal Judge?

    Jones v. Parmley, 465 F.3d 46, 56–57 (2d Cir. 2006)
    Cole v. Arkansas, 338 U.S. 345 (1949)
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