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Richard "Fig" Newton, 3* 2018 RB, Palmdale, CA (COMMITTED)
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That's fine, but every opponent of Alabama knew Eddie Lacy and Trent Richardson was big. Whether they were listed 230 or 240 made no psychological difference.BallzDeep said:
It's the truth. Eddie Lacy was listed at 230 when he played for Bama but he was more like 245. Same with Trent Richardson at Bama. The Seahawks listed Marshawn at 215. But from his own mouth he plays at 225-230.RoadDawg55 said:
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And Scarborough is easily 250. Most coaches don't list their RB's as weighing more than 230. They like it when defenders are surprised by how heavy their RB is when they try to tackle him. Psychological war fare.Tequilla said:
My point is that he's 220 and by your definition a big backBallzDeep said:
Big back in terms of size, yes. Power back in terms of physicality, no. He's more of a finesse back which is why he's a 3rd string back up and the starter is 250 lb Feast Mode.Tequilla said:
Do you consider CJ Prosise a big back?BallzDeep said:
I would consider a big back a RB that's 215+, a medium back is 200-215, and a small back less than 200. The purpose is having a big motherfucker that can break tackles, get yards after contact, and wear down defenses so that your team can finish strong in the fourth quarter against a defense that's tired of tackling a big motherfucker. But no I'm sure your right and every NFL coach is wrong and every college coach winning national championships is wrong. You guys are right. Big backs don't matter. What was I thinking.Tequilla said:The big back argument is vastly overrated to me as what is a big back and what's the purpose of one?
As with most things, all things being equal you take the size ... but I'd take talent ahead of size
Scarborough at 235+ is a big back
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Defense. Singular. Oklahoma St, who was ranked in the 80s overall for rush defense. Keep trying.BallzDeep said:
Doesn't matter. Warren actually tore his PCL the 4th game of the season last year and was out the rest of the season. Before that he was running wild on those Big12 defenses. Colorado's run defense was not stout and Coleman ran it down their throats as well. Nothing Chris Warren couldn't have done if he was on our roster. Sorry your such a fucking doog you can't admit when other players are better than UW players. I would take Ronald Jones over Gaskin as well.NEsnake12 said:
Colorado had the 44th best run defense in college football last year, was 6th in the Pac12 but still better than all but 1 Big12 team (Kansas St.). I'm sorry that you hate facts.BallzDeep said:
Like I said, Warren was a back up to an NFL draft pick and still managed to have a couple of big games. Texas was also a bad team last season overall. Gaskin was in a much better situation. Gaskin had a good game against Utah. I'll give him that. Colorado's front seven was trash. That's not all that impressive. Gaskin doesn't suck. He's a good, solid college back against Pac-12 competition. But he gets tripped up easily, doesn't break many tackles, doesn't have elite speed, and he's not gonna carry a team on his back against playoff competition. It won't happen. I would have rather had Warren against Bama for sure.NEsnake12 said:
You're missing the point. WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT THE NFL??? We're talking about college football. Gaskin is a better college back.BallzDeep said:
Up until this season he was a back up to another NFL talent in Deonte Foreman. I'll be sure to bump this thread when Warren is drafted ahead of Gaskin if Gaskin gets drafted at all. And yeah, Gaskin is running all over great defenses in the Pac-12. Those defenses for Oregon, Cal, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, and WSU were all so good last season.NEsnake12 said:
Wake me up when Chris Warren does anything against a remotely good defense.BallzDeep said:
FUCK NO! Warren is a fucking beast! I would trade him for Gaskin in a heart beat. Congratulations, you just won Doog of the year with that one.NEsnake12 said:In the 2015 class UW went after both Chris Warren and Myles Gaskin. Warren was the higher rated recruit and undeniably a "power back" at 6'3 240. His highlights were more him just running over people while Gaskin's showcased his vision and elusiveness a bit more. I think everyone on this bored would rather have Gaskin than Warren and wouldn't think twice about it.
Warren ran over JV defenses in Texas Tech and Oklahoma St... then played decent against the Cal team you just trashed. Every other game was low YPC.
Like I said, wake me up when Chris Warren as a great performance against a legit defense like Gaskin did last year at Utah or in the Pac12 championship game against Colorado. -
And Salvon won't do it all by himself either. He'll have McGrew and Pleasant and Brown or Newton and maybe Lowe.BallzDeep said:
He may be. We'll see when Warren is back and healthy this season. I think Coleman is better than Gaskin too. Coleman wasn't recruited by Pete and this discussion started with me saying I want Chris Brown over Fig Newton. Coach Pete has yet to recruit a real big back. Salvon will be great but it's damn hard to do it all himself. Even Reggie Bush had LenDale White to help carry the load.dnc said:
Lavon Coleman is a better RB than Chris Warren and will have a better NFL career. That's the power back dick you should be sucking.BallzDeep said:
Doesn't matter. Warren actually tore his PCL the 4th game of the season last year and was out the rest of the season. Before that he was running wild on those Big12 defenses. Colorado's run defense was not stout and Coleman ran it down their throats as well. Nothing Chris Warren couldn't have done if he was on our roster. Sorry your such a fucking doog you can't admit when other players are better than UW players. I would take Ronald Jones over Gaskin as well.NEsnake12 said:
Colorado had the 44th best run defense in college football last year, was 6th in the Pac12 but still better than all but 1 Big12 team (Kansas St.). I'm sorry that you hate facts.BallzDeep said:
Like I said, Warren was a back up to an NFL draft pick and still managed to have a couple of big games. Texas was also a bad team last season overall. Gaskin was in a much better situation. Gaskin had a good game against Utah. I'll give him that. Colorado's front seven was trash. That's not all that impressive. Gaskin doesn't suck. He's a good, solid college back against Pac-12 competition. But he gets tripped up easily, doesn't break many tackles, doesn't have elite speed, and he's not gonna carry a team on his back against playoff competition. It won't happen. I would have rather had Warren against Bama for sure.NEsnake12 said:
You're missing the point. WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT THE NFL??? We're talking about college football. Gaskin is a better college back.BallzDeep said:
Up until this season he was a back up to another NFL talent in Deonte Foreman. I'll be sure to bump this thread when Warren is drafted ahead of Gaskin if Gaskin gets drafted at all. And yeah, Gaskin is running all over great defenses in the Pac-12. Those defenses for Oregon, Cal, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, and WSU were all so good last season.NEsnake12 said:
Wake me up when Chris Warren does anything against a remotely good defense.BallzDeep said:
FUCK NO! Warren is a fucking beast! I would trade him for Gaskin in a heart beat. Congratulations, you just won Doog of the year with that one.NEsnake12 said:In the 2015 class UW went after both Chris Warren and Myles Gaskin. Warren was the higher rated recruit and undeniably a "power back" at 6'3 240. His highlights were more him just running over people while Gaskin's showcased his vision and elusiveness a bit more. I think everyone on this bored would rather have Gaskin than Warren and wouldn't think twice about it.
Warren ran over JV defenses in Texas Tech and Oklahoma St... then played decent against the Cal team you just trashed. Every other game was low YPC.
Like I said, wake me up when Chris Warren as a great performance against a legit defense like Gaskin did last year at Utah or in the Pac12 championship game against Colorado.
Of course you need multiple backs, no ones arguing otherwise.
And we all want Brown more than Newton, Pete included. But I don't want him cause he's bigger, I want him cause he's better. -
/thread.BallzDeep said:
Eye injury? He tore a knee ligament dumb ass.AIRWOLF said:Chris Warren isn't even a lock to start for Texas this season, as a junior.
He has one really exceptional game in his career, against Texas Tech in 2015. And @GrandpaSankey could have run for 100+ against the Red Raiders...before his eye surgery. -
YikesBallzDeep said:
Eye injury? He tore a knee ligament dumb ass.AIRWOLF said:Chris Warren isn't even a lock to start for Texas this season, as a junior.
He has one really exceptional game in his career, against Texas Tech in 2015. And @GrandpaSankey could have run for 100+ against the Red Raiders...before his eye surgery. -
Even I can see you don't belong hereBallzDeep said:
Eye injury? He tore a knee ligament dumb ass.AIRWOLF said:Chris Warren isn't even a lock to start for Texas this season, as a junior.
He has one really exceptional game in his career, against Texas Tech in 2015. And @GrandpaSankey could have run for 100+ against the Red Raiders...before his eye surgery. -
Not to mention that the term "power back" doesn't really refer to weight. Judging whether a guy is a power back based solely on his weight is the kind of analysis that a not-particularly bright fifth grader would do.dnc said:
He already listed 5 of the past 12 champions who didn't start big backs (by your definition).BallzDeep said:
Full on cop out. You're on the losing side of an argument. You can't dispute that teams with a stable of big backs are the ones winning national championships. You sound like a pussy who's like "I would kick your ass man but you're not even worth it."AIRWOLF said:
I'd tear apart all of your bullshit piece by piece, except that it would be a waste of time because everybody here can see that you are just blurting out whatever retarded shit pops into your head. Everybody except for you, that is.BallzDeep said:
Yes, let's just selectively look at the big backs UW has had in the past that sucked and then ignore the teams winning national championships who are all loaded with big backs. That's rational.CuntWaffle said:
Not sure if many of you know this but Dewayne Washington had a well documented fumbling problem.Rubberfist said:Hey guys I think Ballz is talking about big backs like Dewayne Washington, Ty Eriks, Rich Alexis, Albert Tuipolutu and Johnnie Kirton. He's on to something.
You do you, bro.
He already won.
There are some bigger guys who don't really break that many tackles and there are a lot of smaller guys who do. -
You've put so many layers of stupid out here, I would need a shovel and a lot of time to clear it all up.BallzDeep said:
Full on cop out. You're on the losing side of an argument. You can't dispute that teams with a stable of big backs are the ones winning national championships. You sound like a pussy who's like "I would kick your ass man but you're not even worth it."AIRWOLF said:
I'd tear apart all of your bullshit piece by piece, except that it would be a waste of time because everybody here can see that you are just blurting out whatever retarded shit pops into your head. Everybody except for you, that is.BallzDeep said:
Yes, let's just selectively look at the big backs UW has had in the past that sucked and then ignore the teams winning national championships who are all loaded with big backs. That's rational.CuntWaffle said:
Not sure if many of you know this but Dewayne Washington had a well documented fumbling problem.Rubberfist said:Hey guys I think Ballz is talking about big backs like Dewayne Washington, Ty Eriks, Rich Alexis, Albert Tuipolutu and Johnnie Kirton. He's on to something.
You do you, bro.
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Gaskin averaged 3.4 yards per carry against both USC and Bama. 10 carries against Bama and 15 against USC
Big back Coleman who became my favorite as well by the end of the year averaged 2.3 against Bama and 3.0 against USC. 7 carries against Bama and TWO FUCKING carries against USC
My conclusion is that Smith should have been fired long ago.
And our O line is as critical as the size of the back when facing a big team and if you don't give the carries you don't wear down the D.
Did I mention that Smith should be fired?
