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Richard "Fig" Newton, 3* 2018 RB, Palmdale, CA (COMMITTED)

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,818 Founders Club
    AIRWOLF said:

    BallzDeep said:

    BallzDeep said:

    priapism said:

    Newton and Brown look like future DBs to me. They lack a step or 2 in speed to be serious contenders at RB in the Pac. They have the right frames for DBs tho. Brown looks like he has a step on Newton. Lowe would make for a better RB than them in this class.

    Brown is 220 lbs. He's a power back. He'll never be a speed guy but when you need a RB to get you five yards a carry against a tough defense Brown could be that guy. You're right about Newton. He's 180 lbs soaking wet. I'm tired of these tiny ass RB's. They're good for the most part in the Pac-12 but we need big backs to beat the big boys.
    My god, not "power back" bullshit. Eeeesh.
    When was the last time you saw a team win the national championship without using a power back?
    Last January.

    Also in 2013, when Florida State won it all.

    Florida 2008 and 2006. Texas 2005.

    Terrible argument.
    I was going to argue then realized Bama lost the final
  • guntlove
    guntlove Member Posts: 784

    We? already have a big, powerful back. His name is @PostGameOrangeSlices

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,242
    BallzDeep said:

    Tequilla said:

    BallzDeep said:

    Tequilla said:

    The big back argument is vastly overrated to me as what is a big back and what's the purpose of one?

    As with most things, all things being equal you take the size ... but I'd take talent ahead of size

    I would consider a big back a RB that's 215+, a medium back is 200-215, and a small back less than 200. The purpose is having a big motherfucker that can break tackles, get yards after contact, and wear down defenses so that your team can finish strong in the fourth quarter against a defense that's tired of tackling a big motherfucker. But no I'm sure your right and every NFL coach is wrong and every college coach winning national championships is wrong. You guys are right. Big backs don't matter. What was I thinking.
    Do you consider CJ Prosise a big back?

    Big back in terms of size, yes. Power back in terms of physicality, no. He's more of a finesse back which is why he's a 3rd string back up and the starter is 250 lb Feast Mode.
    My point is that he's 220 and by your definition a big back

    Scarborough at 235+ is a big back

    15 lbs for a RB is a big deal
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,336
    BallzDeep said:

    BallzDeep said:

    Tequilla said:

    The big back argument is vastly overrated to me as what is a big back and what's the purpose of one?

    As with most things, all things being equal you take the size ... but I'd take talent ahead of size

    I would consider a big back a RB that's 215+, a medium back is 200-215, and a small back less than 200. The purpose is having a big motherfucker that can break tackles, get yards after contact, and wear down defenses so that your team can finish strong in the fourth quarter against a defense that's tired of tackling a big motherfucker. But no I'm sure your right and every NFL coach is wrong and every college coach winning national championships is wrong. You guys are right. Big backs don't matter. What was I thinking.
    The OL plays a much bigger part in wearing a defense down than a RB.

    Nobody has anything against power backs, but the real point is to get good RB's. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
    No shit Sherlock. I want big backs that are also good.
    How many elite power backs are there though? The few out there are all going to USC or SEC schools, they're not coming to fucking Washington. I think its just a lot easier to find smaller backs, and its not worth sacrificing the talent difference to go with the bigger back. Bo Scarbroughs don't grow on trees, especially not on the west coast.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    In the 2015 class UW went after both Chris Warren and Myles Gaskin. Warren was the higher rated recruit and undeniably a "power back" at 6'3 240. His highlights were more him just running over people while Gaskin's showcased his vision and elusiveness a bit more. I think everyone on this bored would rather have Gaskin than Warren and wouldn't think twice about it.