Republican health care reform
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Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
If only there was a system that had just a single payer. -
You are able to buy a tailored insurance for catastrophic care, not a one size fits all expensive plan mandated by the government.AZDuck said:
I can't afford to pay for cancer surgery or MS medication out-of-pocket, even at a 50% discount. So now what?RaceBannon said:
That would defeat the cash discount. The cost of insurance, government red tape and the like is why the bill is 50% higher to begin withAZDuck said:
If only we had half brains, we would let Medicare and Medicaid negotiate compensation rates and drive down charges for everyone. But we don't do that.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
Cash doesn't require a staff of drones and massive storage of data
Vote for me. Free market for those that can, medicade for those that can't
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And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.UWhuskytskeet said:
Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
I'm in! -
Nope, it's universally cheaper and has similar waiting times. You can still pick up your boner pills on a whim.RaceBannon said:
And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.UWhuskytskeet said:
Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
I'm in! -
Bull shitUWhuskytskeet said:
Nope, it's universally cheaper and has similar waiting times. You can still pick up your boner pills on a whim.RaceBannon said:
And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.UWhuskytskeet said:
Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
I'm in!
I wish it were so but it ain't -

The laws of health care economics must be different here than in the rest of the developed world or something -
Nah it really isn't. Canada has shitty wait times, which people like to quote, but most countries don't. US is pretty average in that respect.RaceBannon said:
Bull shitUWhuskytskeet said:
Nope, it's universally cheaper and has similar waiting times. You can still pick up your boner pills on a whim.RaceBannon said:
And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.UWhuskytskeet said:
Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
I'm in!
I wish it were so but it ain't
http://getbetterhealth.com/wait-times-for-medical-care-how-the-us-actually-measures-up/2010.02.02* Canada had the highest percentage of patients (36%) who had to wait six days or more for an appointment with a doctor, but the United States had the second highest percentage (23%) who reported that they had to wait at least this long. New Zealand, Australia, Germany, and the U.K. all had substantially smaller numbers of people reporting waits of 6 days or longer. Canada and the United States, in that order, also had the lowest percentage of persons who said they could get an appointment with a doctor the same or next day.
The US does very well in elective surgeries.
* The United States had the largest percentage of persons (61%) who said that getting care on nights, weekends, or holidays, without going to the emergency room, was “very” or “somewhat” difficult. In Canada, it was 54%, and in the U.K, 38%. Germany did the best, with only 22% saying that it was difficult to get after-hours care.
We are the richest country in the world. We should be able to take the best pieces from all systems and make it work.
* The U.S. also did very well on measures of wait times for non-emergency or elective surgery. Only 8% of surveyed patients in the United States reported a wait time of four months or more for elective surgery, compared to 33% in Canada and 41% in the U.K. Germany scored the best, with only 6% reporting a long wait for elective surgery. -
It's the Mexicans. Of which I am one now.AZDuck said:
The laws of health care economics must be different here than in the rest of the developed world or something -
It's almost like eating habit and exercise play a part in how much health care you consumeAZDuck said:
The laws of health care economics must be different here than in the rest of the developed world or something




