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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance

    WTGWT
    The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you something

    If you have half a brain

    The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing

    If you have half a brain
    Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.

    If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,782 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance

    WTGWT
    The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you something

    If you have half a brain

    The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing

    If you have half a brain
    If only we had half brains, we would let Medicare and Medicaid negotiate compensation rates and drive down charges for everyone. But we don't do that.
    That would defeat the cash discount. The cost of insurance, government red tape and the like is why the bill is 50% higher to begin with

    Cash doesn't require a staff of drones and massive storage of data
    I can't afford to pay for cancer surgery or MS medication out-of-pocket, even at a 50% discount. So now what?
    You are able to buy a tailored insurance for catastrophic care, not a one size fits all expensive plan mandated by the government.

    Vote for me. Free market for those that can, medicade for those that can't

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,782 Founders Club

    I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance

    WTGWT
    The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you something

    If you have half a brain

    The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing

    If you have half a brain
    Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.

    If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
    And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.

    I'm in!
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance

    WTGWT
    The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you something

    If you have half a brain

    The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing

    If you have half a brain
    Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.

    If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
    And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.

    I'm in!
    Nope, it's universally cheaper and has similar waiting times. You can still pick up your boner pills on a whim.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,782 Founders Club

    I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance

    WTGWT
    The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you something

    If you have half a brain

    The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing

    If you have half a brain
    Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.

    If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
    And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.

    I'm in!
    Nope, it's universally cheaper and has similar waiting times. You can still pick up your boner pills on a whim.
    Bull shit

    I wish it were so but it ain't
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,398
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    The laws of health care economics must be different here than in the rest of the developed world or something
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance

    WTGWT
    The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you something

    If you have half a brain

    The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing

    If you have half a brain
    Huh it's almost like having to deal with 5,000 different insurance companies and then trying to see what is covered and at what rate might be inefficient.

    If only there was a system that had just a single payer.
    And layers of government red tape, long waits, and death panels.

    I'm in!
    Nope, it's universally cheaper and has similar waiting times. You can still pick up your boner pills on a whim.
    Bull shit

    I wish it were so but it ain't
    Nah it really isn't. Canada has shitty wait times, which people like to quote, but most countries don't. US is pretty average in that respect.

    http://getbetterhealth.com/wait-times-for-medical-care-how-the-us-actually-measures-up/2010.02.02
    * Canada had the highest percentage of patients (36%) who had to wait six days or more for an appointment with a doctor, but the United States had the second highest percentage (23%) who reported that they had to wait at least this long. New Zealand, Australia, Germany, and the U.K. all had substantially smaller numbers of people reporting waits of 6 days or longer. Canada and the United States, in that order, also had the lowest percentage of persons who said they could get an appointment with a doctor the same or next day.

    * The United States had the largest percentage of persons (61%) who said that getting care on nights, weekends, or holidays, without going to the emergency room, was “very” or “somewhat” difficult. In Canada, it was 54%, and in the U.K, 38%. Germany did the best, with only 22% saying that it was difficult to get after-hours care.
    The US does very well in elective surgeries.

    * The U.S. also did very well on measures of wait times for non-emergency or elective surgery. Only 8% of surveyed patients in the United States reported a wait time of four months or more for elective surgery, compared to 33% in Canada and 41% in the U.K. Germany scored the best, with only 6% reporting a long wait for elective surgery.
    We are the richest country in the world. We should be able to take the best pieces from all systems and make it work.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,690
    AZDuck said:

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    The laws of health care economics must be different here than in the rest of the developed world or something

    It's the Mexicans. Of which I am one now.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    AZDuck said:

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    The laws of health care economics must be different here than in the rest of the developed world or something

    It's almost like eating habit and exercise play a part in how much health care you consume
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,398
    dnc said:

    AZDuck said:

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    The laws of health care economics must be different here than in the rest of the developed world or something

    It's almost like eating habit and exercise play a part in how much health care you consume
    British food is shit and they DON'T exercise.

    Try again