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Republican health care reform
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"When are Democrats going to admit that their claims about their government-run plan are pure fiction? Repeating the same disproven myths over and over again will not make them true," said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio.
"Instead, Democrats should scrap their costly, job-destroying proposal and work with Republicans on a real plan to give Americans better access to affordable health care."
Yet Obama is soldiering on in his quest to get members of both political parties on board with his top domestic priority.
So far, he has summoned Republicans and Democrats to the White House. He has used public forums to make a direct pitch to the people. He has turned to his political operation to air campaign-like TV ads.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/18/obama-reaches-republicans-health-care-bipartisan-looking-unlikely.amp.html -
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
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They're OK if I am the panel.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You make it sound like death panels are a bad thing.Sledog said:That's because Obozo care really is just catastrophic insurance. They punish you severely if you use it. Of course after Britain's courts ruled Charlie Guard belongs to the state and not his parents we can see how special government run socialized medicine really is. Death panels coming son to your neighborhood.
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http://fortune.com/2017/06/27/ahca-less-public-debate-than-aca/AZDuck said:The ACA made it out of committee in the House of Representatives in July 2009, after a month-long markup and 160 Republican amendments. The House didn’t vote on it until November 7th.
In 2010, the Senate health committee spent nearly 60 hours over the course of 13 days marking up the legislation that would become the ACA.
The Senate Finance Committee held 53 meetings about the ACA and an eight-day markup of the bill, which was the longest markup for the committee in over 20 years. The committee considered 130 amendments and held 79 roll-call votes.
There were 44 hearings and public events about the plan in the Senate alone.
As opposed to zero days in committee and zero public hearings while the Senate tries to shoehorn something into reconciliation because they're not even sure if they can muster 50 votes, let alone 60.
It's only 1/8 of the economy, what could possibly go wrong?
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Health insurance isn't healthcare
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The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain -
If only we had half brains, we would let Medicare and Medicaid negotiate compensation rates and drive down charges for everyone. But we don't do that.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain -
That would defeat the cash discount. The cost of insurance, government red tape and the like is why the bill is 50% higher to begin withAZDuck said:
If only we had half brains, we would let Medicare and Medicaid negotiate compensation rates and drive down charges for everyone. But we don't do that.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
Cash doesn't require a staff of drones and massive storage of data -
I can't afford to pay for cancer surgery or MS medication out-of-pocket, even at a 50% discount. So now what?RaceBannon said:
That would defeat the cash discount. The cost of insurance, government red tape and the like is why the bill is 50% higher to begin withAZDuck said:
If only we had half brains, we would let Medicare and Medicaid negotiate compensation rates and drive down charges for everyone. But we don't do that.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
Cash doesn't require a staff of drones and massive storage of data -
The advisory death panel will take your circumstance under consideration.AZDuck said:
I can't afford to pay for cancer surgery or MS medication out-of-pocket, even at a 50% discount. So now what?RaceBannon said:
That would defeat the cash discount. The cost of insurance, government red tape and the like is why the bill is 50% higher to begin withAZDuck said:
If only we had half brains, we would let Medicare and Medicaid negotiate compensation rates and drive down charges for everyone. But we don't do that.RaceBannon said:
The fact that providers gladly take half price to avoid insurance should tell you somethingCirrhosisDawg said:
WTGWTRaceBannon said:I just paid three bills at 50 cents on the dollar because I don't have insurance
If you have half a brain
The fact that the numbers make that a better deal for me is also revealing
If you have half a brain
Cash doesn't require a staff of drones and massive storage of data
